From news@columbia.edu Wed Mar 26 17:03:27 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA21685 for ; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 17:03:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA10787 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 17:03:26 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.eecs.umich.edu!news.radio.cz!newsbastard.radio.cz!news.radio.cz!CESspool!hammer.uoregon.edu!news-peer.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!howland.erols.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!feeder.chicago.cic.net!chi-news.cic.net!news.suba.com!not-for-mail From: elecman@suba.com (P Parks) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Need help in conecting Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 18:28:18 GMT Organization: Suba Communications, http://www.suba.com Lines: 16 Message-ID: <5h6kho$96$1@scoop.suba.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp-2-01.suba.com X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6815 We have some casino games written in assembler and other dose formats, and windows format. We would like someone to interface a protocol them with the web.. The games we have in mind is a slot machine game written in assembler and video poker game written in windows format. The individual would have to make tcp-ip connection that we can send the results of each play and the amount bet down to the server and the server would have to give results and the amount still left on the machine. If you can do this please contact me elecman@suba.com Thank You Peter Parks From news@columbia.edu Wed Mar 26 17:32:08 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA27699 for ; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 17:32:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA12377 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 17:32:06 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!not-for-mail From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.misc,comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: K95 Kermit flickers on Key Input in NT4.0 Date: 26 Mar 1997 17:31:58 -0500 Organization: Columbia University Lines: 84 Message-ID: <5hc84u$qum@watsun.cc.columbia.edu> References: <5hbo8d$lbi$1@news.impulse.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.os.ms-windows.nt.misc:184911 comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6816 In article <5hbo8d$lbi$1@news.impulse.net>, Stephen Au wrote: : : I have been using K95 under WIN95 for sometime and it works OK (slow) : Slow compared to what? : and I can't use just any window size I want. : Due to a bug in Windows 95. : I recently upgraded my system to NT 4.0... : Which does not have the bug relating to console screen dimensions... : and the first thing I noticed was that text in K95 window flickers as I : was typing. This flickering happens even in the command screen, as well as : when connected. I have not seen this problem on WIN95, and neither does : this occur in vanilla DOS session in an NT window. I went over to a : colleague's NT workstation and it does the same thing. : : The system I tried are PCI-based Pentium/120 and 133 (Dell). One with the : STB PowerGraph Trio64V+ and the other one uses S3. : : K95 has patch 11 updates. : Which is current. : Does anyone has similar problem and has a remedy? Thank you very much. : Some people have seen this, most do not see it. : This is a big disappointment considering I have been using all versions : of Kermit in MSDOS, Unix, and OS2, and these versions are rock solid. : In Windows, we're dealing with a much more... "complicated" environment. There are infinite combinations of hardware, graphics adapters, drivers, BIOS's, etc, and bugs in all of these. Kermit is updating the screen in the approved Win32 manner. If there is flicker, it is not caused by Kermit, but rather by the driver that Kermit is calling upon to do it, and/or the video adapter. The following entry from Kermit 95's BUGS.TXT file might be helpful: 27. Screen updates updates are slow on some PCs Video drivers vary in speed. Those in Windows NT tend to be significantly slower than those in Windows 95. Even in Windows 95, some drivers or hardware might be slower than Kermit 95 was designed for. Kermit 95's default screen-updating cycle is 100 milliseconds (1/10 second); if your video driver is slower than that, you might be able to make Kermit go faster by increasing (yes, increasing) its screen-update interval, for example: SET TERMINAL SCREEN-UPDATE FAST 200 Flickering can occur when the video driver is not performing a comparison between what is already on the screen and what it is being asked to write. So it paints the entire window (which takes time) even when it doesn't have to. When acceleration is on (and supported by the driver) minimal screen paints occur and screen updates should be fast. In the Control Panel either on the Display object or the System Object, there is a performance page which allows you to set the Video Acceleration properties. Make sure this is set to use full acceleration. The only flickering you should see in this case is the mouse pointer, since it is turned off and on, before and after each console screen paint. If that doesn't help, you can experiment with Kermit 95's SET TERMINAL SCREEN-UPDATE FAST and SMOOTH options to choose which algorithm is used to update the screen when new data arrives from the host. Whenever a byte arrives from the host it is processed by an incoming data thread. If it results in a screen write, an internal screen buffer is updated and a "dirty" flag is set. When using the FAST algorithm, the screen buffer is copied to the physical screen on a timer thereby allowing the maximum data throughput from the host to occur regardless of the speed of the video drivers. This is the default. The negative aspect of this method is that on really fast connections it is possible for some screen writes to never make it to the screen, e.g. during continuous scrolling (but the data is processed correctly, and can be viewed in the scrollback buffer). The SMOOTH option says to copy the screen buffer to the window whenever the dirty flag is set. This results in much slower data handling, and a potentially significant increase in the number of screen writes. - Frank From news@columbia.edu Thu Mar 27 10:57:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA23639 for ; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 10:57:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA26400 for kermit.misc@watsun; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 10:57:11 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!worldnet.att.net!news.dra.com!news.good.net!news.good.net!news.southeast.net!news From: "Justin Morgan" Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Software602, Inc. Date: 27 Mar 1997 15:34:17 GMT Organization: Southeast Network Services, Inc. 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Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 18:45:04 GMT Message-ID: <333abfa3.191223802@news.intnet.net> X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.1/32.230 NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.90.8.194 Lines: 8 Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news-dc-10.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-pen-4.sprintlink.net!news.intnet.net!207.90.8.194 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6818 When since I've been plugging alone with Mskermit, I've learned alot. But now, I have a emulation problem that I need to see out. I'n in need of Hasletine's Esprit terminal emulation. Where can I find such a beat for MSkermit to emulate this terminal type? Thanks for you all help. Jeff email reply: hoot@d-s-s.com From news@columbia.edu Thu Mar 27 13:56:03 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA29026 for ; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 13:56:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA05823 for kermit.misc@watsun; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 13:56:01 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Help again. Emulation for??? Date: 27 Mar 1997 18:55:58 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 26 Message-ID: <5hefru$obn$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <333abfa3.191223802@news.intnet.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6819 In article <333abfa3.191223802@news.intnet.net>, Jeff Tomich wrote: : When since I've been plugging alone with Mskermit, I've learned alot. : But now, I have a emulation problem that I need to see out. I'n in : need of Hasletine's Esprit terminal emulation. Where can I find such a : beat for MSkermit to emulate this terminal type? : MS-DOS Kermit (current version 3.14) emulates the following terminals: DEC VT52, VT100, VT102, VT220, VT320 Data General D463, D470 Wyse 50 Heath / Zenith 19 ANSI Prime PT200 (partially) Honeywell VIP (partially) Tektronix 4010/4014 It does not emulate any terminal that is not on this list unless it is compatible with one that is on the list. Kermit 95 has a longer list, which includes Hazeltine 1500 -- I don't know if that is the same as Hazeltine Esprit. (But Kermit 95 runs only Windows 95, Windows NT, and OS/2, not DOS or Windows 3.1.) - Frank From news@columbia.edu Thu Mar 27 20:09:32 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA11203 for ; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 20:09:31 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA04203 for kermit.misc@watsun; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 20:09:30 -0500 (EST) From: hoot@d-s-s.com (Jeff Tomich) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: How do I set up MS DOS kermit 3.14 to use TCP Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 18:42:33 GMT Message-ID: <333abf67.191163454@news.intnet.net> References: <33320001.183089895@news.gte.net> <1997Mar22.085046.95793@cc.usu.edu> X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.1/32.230 NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.90.8.194 Lines: 19 Path: news.columbia.edu!news.new-york.net!metro.atlanta.com!feeder.chicago.cic.net!news.radio.cz!newsbastard.radio.cz!news.radio.cz!CESspool!nntp.uio.no!newsfeeds.sol.net!feed1.news.erols.com!howland.erols.net!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!uunet!in3.uu.net!198.252.32.180!news.intnet.net!207.90.8.194 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6820 On 22 Mar 97 08:50:46 MDT, jrd@cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) wrote: >In article <33320001.183089895@news.gte.net>, hoot@d-s-s.com (Jeff Tomich) writes: >> I'm running a 3com connected to my net. I need to tcp to my host. Do I >> need some sort of packet driver and if so, what kind? Reading the book >> and dummies like me can't figure how I setup my workstation to use tcp >> to connect to my host? >---------- > I presume "a 3com" means an Ethernet board made by the company >3Com. > Please do read the extensive documentation supplied with MS-DOS >Kermit, presuming that you are running DOS and Windows. The docs give >examples for both Packet Driver and Novell ODI driver setups. The driver >must match your particular board and usually they come from the maker of >the board. > Joe D. Since you advised me to read my book, I'm more confused now. Anyways, Fred answered my question and cleared it for me. From news@columbia.edu Thu Mar 27 22:50:20 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA01774 for ; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 22:50:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA11329 for kermit.misc@watsun; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 22:50:19 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.eecs.umich.edu!news.radio.cz!newsbastard.radio.cz!news.radio.cz!CESspool!news.apfel.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!spring.edu.tw!feeder.seed.net.tw!reader.seed.net.tw!news From: Chien Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: HP-1000 kermit problem Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 11:38:36 -0800 Organization: FPG Lines: 6 Message-ID: <333C1E3C.6034@tpts1.seed.net.tw> NNTP-Posting-Host: 139.175.47.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win16; I) Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6821 Dear All: Has anybody else made Kermit work on a HP-1000? Any HP-1000 experts out there who can tell me how to setup the environment to connect a HP-1000 to IBM RS/6000 via direct nul modem cable? Thanks for any info. -Chien (Taiwan) From news@columbia.edu Fri Mar 28 05:52:52 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA03665 for ; Fri, 28 Mar 1997 05:52:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA28390 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 28 Mar 1997 05:52:51 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!news.new-york.net!metro.atlanta.com!news.he.net!uwm.edu!newsfeeds.sol.net!europa.clark.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!aanews.merit.net!monroe.lib.mi.us!monroe.lib.mi.us!jsizemor From: "Jason \"PsychoSy\" Sizemore" Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: RE: Disregard above post by me! Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 04:37:14 -0500 Organization: Monroe County Library System Lines: 21 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: monroe.lib.mi.us Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6822 I figured it out. Someone on a BBS helped me with my problem. I love MS-Kermit!! It's really fast when the setting is just right! Thanks Columbia!! ______________________________________________________________________________ __ | | _____| |_____ /_____ ____/ | | "Psycho Sy" | | Jason Sizemore E-mail: jsizemor@monroe.lib.mi.us | | WWW: "The Brutal Truth" | | Http://www.geocities.com/timessquare/9480 | | |__| "Saved by Grace Through Faith..." --Ephesians 2:8 ______________________________________________________________________________ From news@columbia.edu Fri Mar 28 13:40:57 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA04577 for ; Fri, 28 Mar 1997 13:40:56 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA06934 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 28 Mar 1997 13:40:54 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!enews.sgi.com!news.corp.sgi.com!news.sgi.com!news1.best.com!news.impulse.net!stephen From: stephen@arktel.com (Stephen Au) Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.misc,comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: K95 Kermit flickers on Key Input in NT4.0 Date: 28 Mar 1997 18:33:52 GMT Organization: Impulse Internet Sevices Lines: 85 Message-ID: <5hh2ug$e5p$1@news.impulse.net> References: <5hbo8d$lbi$1@news.impulse.net> <5hc84u$qum@watsun.cc.columbia.edu> Reply-To: stephen@arktel.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 204.188.4.81 X-Newsreader: slrn (0.9.3.2 OS/2) Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.os.ms-windows.nt.misc:185142 comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6823 >Frank da Cruz wrote: >>In article <5hbo8d$lbi$1@news.impulse.net>, >>Stephen Au wrote: >>: >>: I have been using K95 under WIN95 for sometime and it works OK (slow) >>: >>Slow compared to what? >> Slow in couple respects, with serial connections @ 9600/19200 bps. #1. Compared to real-life WYSE-60 terminals at 9600/19200 bps. *All* 5 users of K95 on WIN95 reported K95 as slow compared to their terminals. And these are all Pentium 75 with 16MB machines and all they are doing is connecting to Unix. I tuned the "SET TERMINAL SCREEN-UPDATE FAST" and that improves some but still no compairson with the WYSE in terms of scrolling speed. People performing similar jobs on a WYSE and then on K95 consistently reported the WYSE as getting their job done faster. BTW these users are accountants, they are not anti-computers, and they love their PCs much more than the WYSE. I grant that this "perception" of "slowness" is largely due to the pausing between screen updates because I timed the output with a stop watch and the result is similar. But on keyboard input, there is just this perceptible delay between a key is depressed and a character appearing on the screen. And it slows down productivity. #2. Compared with other versions of Kermit, notably MSDOS and OS2/Warp 4. It takes longer for K95 to come up and exit, K95 feels sluggish/unresponsive on keyboard input. (And the "perception of slowness" on output). #3. Compared with Qmodem. It takes longer for K95 to come up and exit, K95 feels sluggish/unresponsive on keyboard input. So why do I use and recommend K95? Because it does SCOANSI, and because I was sold on the MSDOS and OS2 versions. Just consider these as end-users comments. >>: and I can't use just any window size I want. >>: >>Due to a bug in Windows 95. >> That was a major reason why I upgrade to NT. >> >>: Does anyone has similar problem and has a remedy? Thank you very much. >>: >>Some people have seen this, most do not see it. >> >>In Windows, we're dealing with a much more... "complicated" environment. >>There are infinite combinations of hardware, graphics adapters, drivers, >>BIOS's, etc, and bugs in all of these. >> I would think that this is a step forward than the old days of pure DOS, with Windows and WIN drivers to give some isolation from raw iron. >>Kermit is updating the screen in the approved Win32 manner. If there is >>flicker, it is not caused by Kermit, but rather by the driver that Kermit >>is calling upon to do it, and/or the video adapter. >> >>The following entry from Kermit 95's BUGS.TXT file might be helpful: >> >> ..... >> Thank you for the info, and I have read that, and those suggestions did not fix the problem. What gets me is that this flicker *does not* happen with a vanilla NT MSDOS window. It does not happen with other screen-oriented applications such as "vi" (MKS version), "vim" (NT or WIN32), "brief" (DOS mode). And K95 is doing it "the approved Win32 manner". For a silly consumer like me, this is very disappointing. FWIW, I love Kermit/WARP4 and I use it everyday. Kermit is the single most important application that I use. I understand that K95 is moving toward GUI and I don't see the need to go GUI for a comm, terminal-emulation program to do that, unless X is in the cards, as long as there is mouse support which is quite good already. From news@columbia.edu Fri Mar 28 13:53:33 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA06818 for ; Fri, 28 Mar 1997 13:53:33 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA07179 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 28 Mar 1997 13:53:31 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.misc,comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: K95 Kermit flickers on Key Input in NT4.0 Date: 28 Mar 1997 18:53:28 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 22 Message-ID: <5hh438$64d$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <5hbo8d$lbi$1@news.impulse.net> <5hc84u$qum@watsun.cc.columbia.edu> <5hh2ug$e5p$1@news.impulse.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.os.ms-windows.nt.misc:185143 comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6824 In article <5hh2ug$e5p$1@news.impulse.net>, Stephen Au wrote: : >Frank da Cruz wrote: : >>.... : >>In Windows, we're dealing with a much more... "complicated" environment. : >>There are infinite combinations of hardware, graphics adapters, drivers, : >>BIOS's, etc, and bugs in all of these. : >> : I would think that this is a step forward than the old days of pure DOS, : with Windows and WIN drivers to give some isolation from raw iron. : In theory, of course it's a step forward. In practice it tends not to be, because (a) PC boards and drivers are rushed to market and many if not most of them are buggy for that reason, (b) the more layers of stuff you have to go through, the less responsive the application, and (c) there is usually no way to circumvent buggy OS's or drivers. MS-DOS Kermit is incredibly responsive because, on serial connections it *is* the serial port driver, and on TCP/IP connections, it uses its own self-contained TCP/IP stack. We'll respond to your other points separately. - Frank From news@columbia.edu Fri Mar 28 14:03:45 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA08878 for ; Fri, 28 Mar 1997 14:03:44 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA07468 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 28 Mar 1997 14:03:43 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.eecs.umich.edu!news.radio.cz!newsbastard.radio.cz!news.radio.cz!CESspool!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-chi-13.sprintlink.net!news.wyoming.com!usenet From: bai@wyoming.com (Phil Anze;) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Intel 14.4ex failure under Windows 3.11 (WfW) Date: 28 Mar 1997 18:22:22 GMT Organization: Banner Associates Inc Lines: 15 Message-ID: <5hh28u$hd@horn.wyoming.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lar-cap-2.wyoming.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.5 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6825 Hi, Using an Intel 14.4ex modem with Kermit 3.14 under Windows 3.11 (Windows for Workgroups), the first time I use Kermit, the modem will dial out and connect successfully. Exiting Kermit (but remaining in Windows), then starting Kermit again, the modem either starts to try to negotiate while the other end is still ringing, or just starts throwing garbage characters on the screen. If I exit from Windows, then restart Windows, then start Kermit again, I get a good connection. Additional information: I am using the INTEL14.SCR script; the problem occurs on multiple PCs (speeds from 16MHz to 90MHz), occurs uniformly with three different Intel 14.4ex modems, but does not occur with a US Robotics Courier V.34 modem. Suggestions??? Help!!! -- Phil Anzel Banner Associates Inc Laramie WY. From news@columbia.edu Fri Mar 28 14:41:39 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA16693 for ; Fri, 28 Mar 1997 14:41:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA08411 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 28 Mar 1997 14:41:37 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.misc,comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: K95 Kermit flickers on Key Input in NT4.0 Date: 28 Mar 1997 19:41:31 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 83 Message-ID: <5hh6tb$982$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <5hbo8d$lbi$1@news.impulse.net> <5hc84u$qum@watsun.cc.columbia.edu> <5hh2ug$e5p$1@news.impulse.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.os.ms-windows.nt.misc:185147 comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6826 More on this... In article <5hh2ug$e5p$1@news.impulse.net>, Stephen Au wrote: : >Frank da Cruz wrote: : >>In article <5hbo8d$lbi$1@news.impulse.net>, : >>Stephen Au wrote: : >>: : >>: I have been using K95 under WIN95 for sometime and it works OK (slow) : >>: : >>Slow compared to what? : : Slow in couple respects, with serial connections @ 9600/19200 bps. : : #1. Compared to real-life WYSE-60 terminals at 9600/19200 bps. : Of course. A terminal is a special-purpose device that does nothing but "terminal emulation" -- routing incoming bytes directly to the screen (possibly after interpreting some escape sequences using some (usually) very tight machine code in its PROM), and routing keystrokes directly to the serial port -- often using two separate dedicated processors. : I grant that this "perception" of "slowness" is largely due to the pausing : between screen updates because I timed the output with a stop watch and the : result is similar. But on keyboard input, there is just this perceptible : delay between a key is depressed and a character appearing on the screen. : And it slows down productivity. : This does not happen to everybody. Most people see an instantaneous response. When there *is* a delay, it is caused by Windows' scheduling of Kermit 95's threads. : #2. Compared with other versions of Kermit, notably MSDOS and OS2/Warp 4. : MS-DOS Kermit goes straight to the metal -- it's an operating system unto itself. C-Kermit 5A(191) was not multithreaded, and so did not have to suffer through context switches. : It takes longer for K95 to come up and exit... : Because Windows takes time to start Kermit's various threads. : K95 feels sluggish/unresponsive on keyboard input. : Again: to some, but not to most. : #3. Compared with Qmodem. : It takes longer for K95 to come up and exit, K95 feels sluggish / : unresponsive on keyboard input. : Unlike Qmodem, K95 runs in multiple threads. Why? Because it has multiple windows (even though in the current release you can only see one at at time); a thread per window, plus a dedicated blocking keyboard reading thread. The multithreaded design makes K95 easy on your system, and allows us to maintain portability among Windows 95, Windows NT, and OS/2 in both a console version (which you have now) and a GUI version (coming up). If we dropped support for the console version, a lot of people would be upset. There are also other reasons for using multiple threads, many of which will not be evident to you till the GUI version comes out. Well, here's one (which is already there to some extent): the ability to run the command processor and the terminal emulator simultaneously. This is what allows INPUT statements (for example) to not have to worry about terminal ID or dimension query escape sequences. All of this stuff works while your script is running. Similarly for the command processor and the file transfer module -- e.g., it is possible right now for an INPUT command to sense an Kermit or Zmodem download and activate the file-transfer thread. And so on. Also... K95's keyboard reader does a lot more than Qmodem's -- think of the multiple levels of key mapping (characters, strings, verbs, macros assigned to any key combinations at all without limit) AND character-set translation, the latter being important where English is not being used. So yeah, there's a tradeoff -- functionality vs snappiness. In each new release we do a lot of fine tuning to make K95 snappier and snappier, and this will continue. But finally I have to emphasize again that the perceived sluggishness is not a universal phenomenon. If we knew why it happens on some PCs but not others, we'd be the first to tell you. Maybe we can take this off line via email to kermit-support@columbia.edu and do a more detailed analysis. - Frank From news@columbia.edu Fri Mar 28 21:12:35 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA23905 for ; Fri, 28 Mar 1997 21:12:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA22087 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 28 Mar 1997 21:12:34 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.direct.ca!news-out.internetmci.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!aanews.merit.net!monroe.lib.mi.us!monroe.lib.mi.us!jsizemor From: "Jason \"PsychoSy\" Sizemore" Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: MSK3.15 -- Downloading problems Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 03:43:57 -0500 Organization: Monroe County Library System Lines: 68 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: monroe.lib.mi.us Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6827 My local ISP uses C-Kermit. I was using Telix for Kermit downloads but it makes my arteries harden. I recently got MS-Kermit for Dos version 3.15 and when I try to download a file from my ISP, MSK will go to the "receiving file" screen and just sit there. I can not get the data unless I hit the "retry" button every 3 seconds. If I hit this button any sooner or later, my "retry" counter goes up and ultimately I use my limit of retries. I could set the retry limit higher but that still does not help with the real situation. My guess is that my side of Kermit is not sending the RTS signal to my ISP or my configuation is wrong. I basically used the configuration of my Telix as a small guide the configuration. Here's what I have MSK configured to: SET PORT 2, SPEED 57600, FLOW RTS/CTS, WINDOW 3 (OR 4) SET CONTROL UNPREFIX ALL SET CONTROL PREFIX 0 1 129 SET TERM BYTE 8 SET PARITY NONE SET RECEIVE QUOTE 35 SET RECEIVE START-OF-PACKET 1 SET RECEIVE PACKET-LENGTH 2000 SET END-OF-LINE 13 I've also tried to SET PARITY SPACE but that does not work. I'm using an Intel 144/144e Fax External modem, IBM 386dx w/Dos 5.0 and the SIIG HighSpeed Serial I/O Pro card (16550 Uart) Another thing is as soon as the file transfer begins, I have to hit the "enter" key at least twice for the "filename" to be listed. I'm used to the Telix program that as soon as you give the receive command (PGDWN Key) and hit `K' for Kermit, the transfer begins at an average CPS rate of 250-350 (I once had a CPS rate of 400 for about a second!) MS-Kermit is indeed faster that Telix's Kermit but if I could somehow configure it to accept the data the ISP C-KERMIT is sending without hitting the "retry" key, I'd be happy! Any suggestions? In the mean time, I'll check my library to see if they have the manual for using MS-KERMIT and check it out (if it helps, then buying the manual for keeps is going to be a must for me! To this day, I still have to refer to my Dummies to DOS guide! =) ) Thanks in advance. ______________________________________________________________________________ __ | | _____| |_____ /_____ ____/ | | "Psycho Sy" | | Jason Sizemore E-mail: jsizemor@monroe.lib.mi.us | | WWW: "The Brutal Truth" | | Http://www.geocities.com/timessquare/9480 | | |__| "Saved by Grace Through Faith..." --Ephesians 2:8 ______________________________________________________________________________ From news@columbia.edu Sat Mar 29 13:18:08 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA19450 for ; Sat, 29 Mar 1997 13:18:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA02579 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sat, 29 Mar 1997 13:18:07 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.eecs.umich.edu!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!cs.utexas.edu!news.cs.utah.edu!cc.usu.edu!jrd From: jrd@cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: MSK3.15 -- Downloading problems Message-ID: <1997Mar29.104933.96091@cc.usu.edu> Date: 29 Mar 97 10:49:33 MDT References: Organization: Utah State University Lines: 49 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6828 In article , "Jason \"PsychoSy\" Sizemore" writes: > My local ISP uses C-Kermit. I was using Telix for Kermit downloads but it > makes my arteries harden. I recently got MS-Kermit for Dos version 3.15 > and when I try to download a file from my ISP, MSK will go to the > "receiving file" screen and just sit there. I can not get the data unless > I hit the "retry" button every 3 seconds. If I hit this button > any sooner or later, my "retry" counter goes up and ultimately I use my > limit of retries. I could set the retry limit higher but that still does > not help with the real situation. > > My guess is that my side of Kermit is not sending the RTS signal to my > ISP or my configuation is wrong. I basically used the configuration of my > Telix as a small guide the configuration. Here's what I have MSK > configured to: > > SET PORT 2, SPEED 57600, FLOW RTS/CTS, WINDOW 3 (OR 4) I presume these are separately stated commands. > SET CONTROL UNPREFIX ALL > SET CONTROL PREFIX 0 1 129 Stop here. We warn do not unprefix unless you know the channel will pass those bytes intact. Many/most channels are not that clean, so don't do that in the beginning. > SET TERM BYTE 8 > SET PARITY NONE > SET RECEIVE QUOTE 35 > SET RECEIVE START-OF-PACKET 1 > SET RECEIVE PACKET-LENGTH 2000 > SET END-OF-LINE 13 There is no reason to play with the protocol codes. The defaults are good. Thus remove SET REC QUOTE, SET REC START, SET END-OF-LINE. > I've also tried to SET PARITY SPACE but that does not work. > I'm using an Intel 144/144e Fax External modem, IBM 386dx w/Dos 5.0 and > the SIIG HighSpeed Serial I/O Pro card (16550 Uart) > > Another thing is as soon as the file transfer begins, I have to hit the > "enter" key at least twice for the "filename" to be listed. The modem itself must support RTS/CTS flow control, and the cable must carry the signals too. But I think your problem is the channel is reacting to bare control codes from that SET UNPREFIX command. It does pay to read the instructions, and to start from a "known good" situation. Joe D. From news@columbia.edu Sat Mar 29 13:41:41 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA23194 for ; Sat, 29 Mar 1997 13:41:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA03149 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sat, 29 Mar 1997 13:41:39 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!spool.mu.edu!uwm.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!howland.erols.net!ix.netcom.com!news From: Helen Scott Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Terminal Emulator Date: Sat, 29 Mar 1997 12:32:52 -0600 Organization: Netcom Lines: 11 Message-ID: <333D6054.4410@ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: nas-tn3-14.ix.netcom.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-NETCOM-Date: Sat Mar 29 12:30:57 PM CST 1997 X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0C-NC320 (Win95; I) Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6829 I work for a large company, and we are getting ready to go to Windows NT. We are looking into using Kermit as our terminal emulator to connect to our Host computer which is in another state. I have been using a demo of K-95. I am having problems with using the keyboard.. When I connect to our host computer, the function keys do not work like they should. For example, F3 would end a session. On K-95, F8 performs this function.. F7 and F8 should move me forward or backward within a file. With K-95, it's {shift} F2 and {shift} F3. I have a manual, and I have looked at the entire chapter for terminal emulation. From what I can tell, it's supposed to be automatic. I have used a VT100 template. Please advise.. hopscott@ix.netcom.com From news@columbia.edu Sat Mar 29 18:27:35 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA25490 for ; Sat, 29 Mar 1997 18:27:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA13801 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sat, 29 Mar 1997 18:27:34 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!news.indiana.edu!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!ais.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsout1.alt.net!news1.alt.net!news.aros.net!news.cs.utah.edu!cc.usu.edu!jrd From: jrd@cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Help again. Emulation for??? Message-ID: <1997Mar29.100100.96086@cc.usu.edu> Date: 29 Mar 97 10:01:00 MDT References: <333abfa3.191223802@news.intnet.net> Organization: Utah State University Lines: 13 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6830 In article <333abfa3.191223802@news.intnet.net>, hoot@d-s-s.com (Jeff Tomich) writes: > When since I've been plugging alone with Mskermit, I've learned alot. > But now, I have a emulation problem that I need to see out. I'n in > need of Hasletine's Esprit terminal emulation. Where can I find such a > beat for MSkermit to emulate this terminal type? ------ Terminal emulation is built-in (designed in) and Hazeltine terminals are not in the set available. There really isn't much that can be done except to try modifying what the other end requires as a terminal type. In very simple cases you can redefine keys to send what you wish, but that will not touch the problem of Kermit's reception of bytes from the remote end (that's a significant programming item). Joe D. From news@columbia.edu Sat Mar 29 20:10:45 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA08744 for ; Sat, 29 Mar 1997 20:10:44 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA18338 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sat, 29 Mar 1997 20:10:43 -0500 (EST) From: hootman@ibm.net (Jeff Tomich) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Help again. Emulation for??? Date: Sun, 30 Mar 1997 01:02:49 GMT Organization: Life Styles of the Overly Taxed! Reply-To: hootman@ibm.net Message-ID: <333dbb78.14832388@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> References: <333abfa3.191223802@news.intnet.net> <5hefru$obn$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.1/32.230 NNTP-Posting-Host: slip129-37-246-110.fl.us.ibm.net Lines: 36 Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.eecs.umich.edu!news.radio.cz!newsbastard.radio.cz!news.radio.cz!CESspool!news-feed.inet.tele.dk!newsfeed.nacamar.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!ais.net!news.stealth.net!newsfeed.de.ibm.net!ibm.net!news-m01.ny.us.ibm.net!news.ibm.net!news1.ibm.net!slip129-37-246-110.fl.us.ibm.net Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6831 On 27 Mar 1997 18:55:58 GMT, fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) wrote: >In article <333abfa3.191223802@news.intnet.net>, >Jeff Tomich wrote: >: When since I've been plugging alone with Mskermit, I've learned alot. >: But now, I have a emulation problem that I need to see out. I'n in >: need of Hasletine's Esprit terminal emulation. Where can I find such a >: beat for MSkermit to emulate this terminal type? >: >MS-DOS Kermit (current version 3.14) emulates the following terminals: > > DEC VT52, VT100, VT102, VT220, VT320 > Data General D463, D470 > Wyse 50 > Heath / Zenith 19 > ANSI > Prime PT200 (partially) > Honeywell VIP (partially) > Tektronix 4010/4014 > >It does not emulate any terminal that is not on this list unless it is >compatible with one that is on the list. > >Kermit 95 has a longer list, which includes Hazeltine 1500 -- I don't know >if that is the same as Hazeltine Esprit. (But Kermit 95 runs only Windows >95, Windows NT, and OS/2, not DOS or Windows 3.1.) > >- Frank Frank, Does the Kermit 95 might support the Hazeltine Esprit emulation? Thanks, Jeff From news@columbia.edu Sun Mar 30 11:17:35 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA23432 for ; Sun, 30 Mar 1997 11:17:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA27078 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sun, 30 Mar 1997 11:17:34 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.eecs.umich.edu!news.radio.cz!newsbastard.radio.cz!news.radio.cz!CESspool!hammer.uoregon.edu!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!cs.utexas.edu!news.cs.utah.edu!cc.usu.edu!jrd From: jrd@cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Intel 14.4ex failure under Windows 3.11 (WfW) Message-ID: <1997Mar30.083715.96110@cc.usu.edu> Date: 30 Mar 97 08:37:15 MDT References: <5hh28u$hd@horn.wyoming.com> Organization: Utah State University Lines: 24 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6832 In article <5hh28u$hd@horn.wyoming.com>, bai@wyoming.com (Phil Anze;) writes: > Hi, > Using an Intel 14.4ex modem with Kermit 3.14 under Windows 3.11 (Windows for > Workgroups), the first time I use Kermit, the modem will dial out and connect > successfully. Exiting Kermit (but remaining in Windows), then starting Kermit > again, the modem either starts to try to negotiate while the other end is > still ringing, or just starts throwing garbage characters on the screen. If I > exit from Windows, then restart Windows, then start Kermit again, I get a good > connection. Additional information: I am using the INTEL14.SCR script; the > problem occurs on multiple PCs (speeds from 16MHz to 90MHz), occurs uniformly > with three different Intel 14.4ex modems, but does not occur with a US > Robotics Courier V.34 modem. > Suggestions??? > Help!!! > -- Phil Anzel Banner Associates Inc Laramie WY. ------------ The modem speed negotiation process (not to mention even recognizing when the other end has not yet asserted its carrier to negotiate) is between modems themselves rather than under control of Kermit. You probably knew that already. My suggestions are a) have a careful look at the Windows situation to see if Windows is given control of the modem (thinking that modem control has been exercised by Windows between calls) and b) that the sundry AT commands in INTEL.SCR match what your modem ought to be doing. Joe D. From news@columbia.edu Sun Mar 30 12:37:57 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA03736 for ; Sun, 30 Mar 1997 12:37:56 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA29820 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sun, 30 Mar 1997 12:37:55 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.eecs.umich.edu!news.radio.cz!newsbastard.radio.cz!news.radio.cz!CESspool!hammer.uoregon.edu!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!ais.net!news.stealth.net!news.dorsai.org!not-for-mail From: vjp2@dorsai.org@tam.dorsai.org (Vasos Panagiotopoulos +1-917-287-8087 Bioengineer-Financier Samani Marions Panyaught NYC-11357-3436-287-USA) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Bumped into Turbo Pascal..huh..?? Date: 30 Mar 1997 18:32:52 GMT Organization: Samani Marions Panyaught NYC-11357-3436-287-USA Lines: 17 Message-ID: <5hmbkk$512@kensie.dorsai.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: amanda.dorsai.org X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 950824BETA PL0] Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6833 Please ignore unless this makes some sence.. Maybe this is unrelated (if so, I might have bigger problems). But all of a sudden, my Kermit session with Dorsai bumped my P5-75 into Turbo Pascal. I have a 1987 version of TPas, which I haven't run in months. I seem to recall early versions of PC Kermit being in Pascal..no?..but this one's in C, right? this is wierd.. reply only if there is something that makes sence that I don't know about.. Usually I have problems with Windows, but I didn't get inot Windows yet when this happened.. maybe my Zip drive taxes memeory too much (it sometimes does).. still this is so bizarre.. -- Vasos-Peter John Panagiotopoulos II, Columbia'81+, Bioengineer-Financier, NYC BachMozart ReaganQuayle EvrytanoKastorian http://WWW.Dorsai.Org/~vjp2 vjp2@{MCIMail.Com|CompuServe.Com|Dorsai.Org} ---{Nothing herein constitutes advice. 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From news@columbia.edu Sun Mar 30 13:17:52 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA07630 for ; Sun, 30 Mar 1997 13:17:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA00693 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sun, 30 Mar 1997 13:17:50 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.eecs.umich.edu!news.radio.cz!newsbastard.radio.cz!news.radio.cz!CESspool!hammer.uoregon.edu!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!cs.utexas.edu!news.cs.utah.edu!cc.usu.edu!jrd From: jrd@cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.misc,comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: K95 Kermit flickers on Key Input in NT4.0 Message-ID: <1997Mar30.104144.96113@cc.usu.edu> Date: 30 Mar 97 10:41:44 MDT References: <5hbo8d$lbi$1@news.impulse.net> <5hh6tb$982$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> Organization: Utah State University Lines: 51 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.os.ms-windows.nt.misc:185311 comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6835 In article <5hh6tb$982$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu>, fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) writes: > More on this... > > In article <5hh2ug$e5p$1@news.impulse.net>, > Stephen Au wrote: > : >Frank da Cruz wrote: > : >>In article <5hbo8d$lbi$1@news.impulse.net>, > : >>Stephen Au wrote: > : >>: > : >>: I have been using K95 under WIN95 for sometime and it works OK (slow) > : >>: > : >>Slow compared to what? > : > : Slow in couple respects, with serial connections @ 9600/19200 bps. > : > : #1. Compared to real-life WYSE-60 terminals at 9600/19200 bps. > : > Of course. A terminal is a special-purpose device that does nothing but > "terminal emulation" -- routing incoming bytes directly to the screen > (possibly after interpreting some escape sequences using some (usually) very > tight machine code in its PROM), and routing keystrokes directly to the serial > port -- often using two separate dedicated processors. > > : I grant that this "perception" of "slowness" is largely due to the pausing > : between screen updates because I timed the output with a stop watch and the > : result is similar. But on keyboard input, there is just this perceptible > : delay between a key is depressed and a character appearing on the screen. > : And it slows down productivity. > : > This does not happen to everybody. Most people see an instantaneous response. > When there *is* a delay, it is caused by Windows' scheduling of Kermit 95's > threads. ---------- Snipping out lots of neat technical discussion. Just for perspective, MSK version 3.15 beta has a time of day clock presentation on the terminal emulation status line. We found that simply asking DOS for the current time of day, while waiting for bytes to arrive, was enough to cause Win95 to shakily refresh the screen. Most annoying. I had to add code to turn off the clock when MSK is run in Windows. What this says is screen updating and sundry within Win95 is very nervous. A screen refresh seems to be triggered by the slightest thing, and that of course takes cpu time and tends to annoy users. Now add back the many threads of Kermit95 with their systems calls, and guess how Win95 can be frightened into updating the screen on every little happenstance. A lesson is comms programs should avoid the "o/s" as much as possible and do all the work themselves, if allowed to come that close to the comms machinery. MSK does this, being a DOS style program, but Windows programs are not allowed to unless they are a VxD or similar. Joe D. From news@columbia.edu Sun Mar 30 17:50:08 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA12207 for ; Sun, 30 Mar 1997 17:50:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA11578 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sun, 30 Mar 1997 17:50:05 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc,comp.terminals Subject: Re: Help again. Emulation for??? Date: 30 Mar 1997 22:50:00 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 20 Message-ID: <5hmqmo$t3s$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <333abfa3.191223802@news.intnet.net> <5hefru$obn$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> <333dbb78.14832388@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6836 comp.terminals:10338 In article <333dbb78.14832388@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net>, Jeff Tomich wrote: : On 27 Mar 1997 18:55:58 GMT, fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) : wrote: : ... : >[MS-DOS Kermit] does not emulate any terminal that is not on this list : >unless it is compatible with one that is on the list. : > : >Kermit 95 has a longer list, which includes Hazeltine 1500 -- I don't know : >if that is the same as Hazeltine Esprit. (But Kermit 95 runs only Windows : >95, Windows NT, and OS/2, not DOS or Windows 3.1.) : > : Does the Kermit 95 might support the Hazeltine Esprit emulation? : To repeat what I said, "Kermit 95 has a longer list, which includes Hazeltine 1500 -- I don't know if that is the same as Hazeltine Esprit." If anybody knows if the Hazeltine 1500 is or is not compatible with the Hazeltine Esprit, please post the information. Thanks! - Frank From news@columbia.edu Sun Mar 30 17:58:54 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA13152 for ; Sun, 30 Mar 1997 17:58:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA11883 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sun, 30 Mar 1997 17:58:53 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Terminal Emulator Date: 30 Mar 1997 22:58:50 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 36 Message-ID: <5hmr7a$d1$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <333D6054.4410@ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6837 In article <333D6054.4410@ix.netcom.com>, Helen Scott wrote: : I work for a large company, and we are getting ready to go to Windows : NT. We are looking into using Kermit as our terminal emulator to : connect to our Host computer which is in another state. I have been : using a demo of K-95. I am having problems with using the keyboard.. : When I connect to our host computer, the function keys do not work like : they should. For example, F3 would end a session. On K-95, F8 performs : this function.. F7 and F8 should move me forward or backward within a : file. With K-95, it's {shift} F2 and {shift} F3. I have a manual, and : I have looked at the entire chapter for terminal emulation. From what I : can tell, it's supposed to be automatic. I have used a VT100 template. : A terminal session has two ends. When we type a letter "A" we expect the application on the other end to receive and understand it as a letter "A". Similarly for the other letters and digits and punctuation keys. But function keys (F1, F2, etc, and their shifted and/or Ctrl and/or Alt modified versions) are not ordinary keys. To complicate matters, PCs are not VT100 or VT320 terminals, which the host application (probably) thinks you are using. Thus the PC application (Kermit) must be told to send whatever the host expects for each special key. Now your host was obviously not set up for a real VT100 terminal, because real VT100s do not have F keys at all. They have PF1 through PF4, plus arrow keys and a numeric keypad -- that's it. VT220s have all those, plus F6 through F20 (but no F3). So whatever you were using before was set up specially for your application. Therefore, Kermit 95 must also be set up in the same way. Unfortunately we have no way of knowing what this special setup might have been. You should contact kermit-support@columbia.edu with the details about your previous terminal emulator, and then we can help you. - Frank From news@columbia.edu Sun Mar 30 18:03:58 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA14256 for ; Sun, 30 Mar 1997 18:03:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA12203 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sun, 30 Mar 1997 18:03:56 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Bumped into Turbo Pascal..huh..?? Date: 30 Mar 1997 23:03:53 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 28 Message-ID: <5hmrgp$q9$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <5hmbkk$512@kensie.dorsai.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6838 In article <5hmbkk$512@kensie.dorsai.org>, Vasos Panagiotopoulos +1-917-287-8087 Bioengineer-Financier Samani Marions Panyaught NYC-11357-3436-287-USA wrote: : Please ignore unless this makes some sence.. : : Maybe this is unrelated (if so, I might have bigger problems). But : all of a sudden, my Kermit session with Dorsai bumped my P5-75 into : Turbo Pascal. I have a 1987 version of TPas, which I haven't run in : months. I seem to recall early versions of PC Kermit being in : Pascal..no? : No. :..but this one's in C, right? : Most of it is in assembler. : this is wierd.. reply only : if there is something that makes sence that I don't know about.. : Usually I have problems with Windows, but I didn't get inot Windows : yet when this happened.. maybe my Zip drive taxes memeory too much (it : sometimes does).. still this is so bizarre.. : So you are in CONNECT mode when this happens? It could happen if your host application is sending an APC sequence containing whatever command you would use to start Pascal. To test, try telling MS-DOS Kermit to "set terminal apc off" and see if that makes it stop. - Frank From news@columbia.edu Sun Mar 30 20:32:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA10357 for ; Sun, 30 Mar 1997 20:32:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA19411 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sun, 30 Mar 1997 20:32:05 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.panix.com!panix3.panix.com!mpollak From: Michael Pollak Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Can I pick up Mac-Kermit on disk at Columbia? Date: Sun, 30 Mar 1997 01:32:32 -0500 Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC Lines: 14 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: panix3.panix.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6839 A friend of mine has downloaded Mac-Kermit, but can't get it to work. I suspect she's muffed the installation somehow, and to check out that feeling, I'd like to get a copy on disk, correctly configured for the a-drive, or set to install itself properly. Could I get one if I stopped by Columbia? If so, who should I contact? Any and all suggestions greatly appreciated. Michael __________________________________________________________________________ Michael Pollak................New York City..............mpollak@panix.com From news@columbia.edu Sun Mar 30 20:42:19 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA12189 for ; Sun, 30 Mar 1997 20:42:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA19852 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sun, 30 Mar 1997 20:42:17 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Can I pick up Mac-Kermit on disk at Columbia? Date: 31 Mar 1997 01:42:08 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 20 Message-ID: <5hn4pg$ane$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6840 In article , Michael Pollak wrote: : : A friend of mine has downloaded Mac-Kermit, but can't get it to work. I : suspect she's muffed the installation somehow, and to check out that : feeling, I'd like to get a copy on disk, correctly configured for the : a-drive, or set to install itself properly. Could I get one if I stopped : by Columbia? If so, who should I contact? : Mac Kermit is not one of our prouder accomplishments. Nobody is taking care of it, it's never been officially released, etc etc. If you download the hqx file, you need BinHex 4.0 to convert it back to a Macintosh app (and no, we don't distribute BinHex 4.0 -- it's not ours). That said, if you still want to get it on diskette, you can order it from our software catalog: http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/aaxfly.html - Frank From news@columbia.edu Mon Mar 31 09:30:31 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA09618 for ; Mon, 31 Mar 1997 09:30:31 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA11212 for kermit.misc@watsun; Mon, 31 Mar 1997 09:30:25 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news-xfer.netaxs.com!news.voicenet.com!omni2!cmosley From: cmosley@voicenet.com (Christopher Mosley) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: 132x43 text mode Date: 31 Mar 1997 14:29:24 GMT Organization: Voicenet - Internet Access - (215)674-9290 Lines: 1 Message-ID: <5hoho4$2kn@news1.voicenet.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: omni2.voicenet.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6841 From news@columbia.edu Mon Mar 31 13:24:51 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA00251 for ; Mon, 31 Mar 1997 13:24:50 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA20518 for kermit.misc@watsun; Mon, 31 Mar 1997 13:24:50 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsout1.alt.net!news1.alt.net!news.aros.net!news.cs.utah.edu!cc.usu.edu!jrd From: jrd@cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Bumped into Turbo Pascal..huh..?? Message-ID: <1997Mar31.101022.96138@cc.usu.edu> Date: 31 Mar 97 10:10:22 MDT References: <5hmbkk$512@kensie.dorsai.org> Organization: Utah State University Lines: 17 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6842 In article <5hmbkk$512@kensie.dorsai.org>, vjp2@dorsai.org @smtp.dorsai.org (Vasos Panagiotopoulos +1-917-287-8087 writes: > Please ignore unless this makes some sence.. > > Maybe this is unrelated (if so, I might have bigger problems). But > all of a sudden, my Kermit session with Dorsai bumped my P5-75 into > Turbo Pascal. I have a 1987 version of TPas, which I haven't run in > months. I seem to recall early versions of PC Kermit being in > Pascal..no?..but this one's in C, right? this is wierd.. reply only > if there is something that makes sence that I don't know about.. > Usually I have problems with Windows, but I didn't get inot Windows > yet when this happened.. maybe my Zip drive taxes memeory too much (it > sometimes does).. still this is so bizarre.. ---------- It is clear that your machine has configuration and/or virus problems. Kermit is not at fault. MS-DOS Kermit is written in assembler and C, but one sees neither after assembly, compliation, and linking. Joe D. From news@columbia.edu Tue Apr 1 13:04:45 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA21821 for ; Tue, 1 Apr 1997 13:04:45 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA21603 for kermit.misc@watsun; Tue, 1 Apr 1997 13:04:44 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in2.uu.net!194.179.1.100!minerva.ibernet.es!diana.ibernet.es!not-for-mail From: "Marcos Carbonero Garrido" Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Can i send files type Ascii to VMS major of 512 character Date: 1 Apr 1997 17:42:01 GMT Organization: Banco Cooperativo Español Lines: 3 Message-ID: <01bc3ec4$8afa41a0$72e34cc3@ozmacarb> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp114.227.redestb.es X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6843 Anybody know how i can send files Ascii to VMS major of 512 Characters. Thank you. From news@columbia.edu Tue Apr 1 13:18:51 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA24464 for ; Tue, 1 Apr 1997 13:18:50 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA22193 for kermit.misc@watsun; Tue, 1 Apr 1997 13:18:49 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Can i send files type Ascii to VMS major of 512 character Date: 1 Apr 1997 18:18:44 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 13 Message-ID: <5hrji4$g4g$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <01bc3ec4$8afa41a0$72e34cc3@ozmacarb> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6844 In article <01bc3ec4$8afa41a0$72e34cc3@ozmacarb>, Marcos Carbonero Garrido wrote: : Anybody know how i can send files Ascii to VMS major of 512 Characters. : You need communications software on the VMS computer and on the computer from which you are sending the file. For example C-Kermit 6.0 on VMS and MS-DOS Kermit 3.14 on the PC (if it is running DOS or Windows 3.x, if that is what you have). Tell one to "send", the other to "receive". You can find out all about Kermit software at: http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/ - Frank From news@columbia.edu Tue Apr 1 15:27:14 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA20933 for ; Tue, 1 Apr 1997 15:27:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA27772 for kermit.misc@watsun; Tue, 1 Apr 1997 15:27:09 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in1.uu.net!129.59.1.25!news.vanderbilt.edu!news From: don.eddleman@mcmail.vanderbilt.edu Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Assigning a script to a key... Date: 1 Apr 1997 20:17:53 GMT Organization: Vanderbilt University Lines: 11 Message-ID: <5hrqhh$9at$1@news.vanderbilt.edu> Reply-To: don.eddleman@mcmail.vanderbilt.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: 160.129.21.1 X-Newsreader: IBM NewsReader/2 v1.9d - NLS Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6845 I would like to assign a script to a key. It appears that this is not possible with the set key command. The script needs to set printer to a file, do a Kdump of the current screen, and then set the printer back to PRN. As you can see, what I really want to do is get a screen scrape of the current emulator screen when a user hits a specially defined key. Is there another way to do this? Don Eddleman Vanderbilt University From news@columbia.edu Tue Apr 1 15:55:33 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA27401 for ; Tue, 1 Apr 1997 15:55:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA29015 for kermit.misc@watsun; Tue, 1 Apr 1997 15:55:32 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Assigning a script to a key... Date: 1 Apr 1997 20:55:29 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 50 Message-ID: <5hrso1$q7q$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <5hrqhh$9at$1@news.vanderbilt.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6846 In article <5hrqhh$9at$1@news.vanderbilt.edu>, wrote: : I would like to assign a script to a key. It appears that this is not : possible with the set key command. : Sure, it's possible. (And knowing who you are, I deduce you are talking about Kermit 95 :-) But what you are really asking is whether it is possible to have a mixture of scripts (macros) and "kverbs" in a key definition. And yes, that's possible too. : The script needs to set printer to a file, do a Kdump of the current : screen, and then set the printer back to PRN. As you can see, what I : really want to do is get a screen scrape of the current emulator screen : when a user hits a specially defined key. Is there another way to do : this? : The obvious way to do this would be: define x1 set printer screen.txt define x2 set printer, connect set key \368 \Kx1\Kdump\Kx2 (\Kdump is a built-in Kverb; \Kx1 and \Kx2 are macros masquerading as Kverbs.) Unfortunately, this doesn't work because at the time the \Kdump verb is executed, the command screen is active instead of the terminal screen. That is, \Kdump is executing in the wrong context. I can't think of any way to force it to execute in the other context. You might think: define x1 set printer screen.txt, connect define x2 set printer, connect set key \368 \Kx1\Kdump\Kx2 would do it, but for some reason it doesn't. However, you can do something like this: define x1 set printer screen.txt, connect define x2 set printer, connect set key \368 \Kx1 set key \369 \Kx2 In this case the F1 key sets the printer to be the file, SCREEN.TXT, and F2 sets it back to the default (PRN). The Alt-p key has \Kdump assigned to it by default. So: Alt-p Prints to current SET PRINTER device or file F1 Alt-p Prints to SCREEN.TXT file F2 Alt-p Prints to PRN - Frank From news@columbia.edu Wed Apr 2 06:20:10 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA05712 for ; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 06:20:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA18312 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 06:20:09 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!news.new-york.net!uunet!in1.uu.net!204.238.120.21!jump.net!grunt.dejanews.com!not-for-mail Date: Wed, 02 Apr 1997 03:51:06 -0600 From: E.Ingram@uk22p.bull.co.uk Subject: wanted: Refused Disposition explanation Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Message-ID: <859969673.27378@dejanews.com> Reply-To: e.ingram@uk22p.bull.co.uk Organization: Deja News Usenet Posting Service X-Article-Creation-Date: Wed Apr 02 08:27:54 1997 GMT X-Originating-IP-Addr: 137.213.252.252 (beehive-pipex.uk03.bull.co.uk) X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/2.0 (compatible; MSIE 3.0a; Windows 3.1) X-Authenticated-Sender: E.Ingram@uk22p.bull.co.uk Lines: 17 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6847 I'd be grateful if anyone can explain what is going wrong with this transfer from an UNIX system running AIX to a PC running MS-DOS. It happens occasionally and a subsequent attempt will succeed without any changes being made on either the UNIX system or the target PC. Sending C04067.XFR as C04067.XFR mode: text file character set US ASCII xfer character set transparent refused disposition *** interrupted, sending discard request Thanks ... Eric -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet From news@columbia.edu Wed Apr 2 08:19:31 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA12005 for ; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 08:19:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA26833 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 08:19:29 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!news.cs.columbia.edu!psinntp!howland.erols.net!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news-xfer.netaxs.com!news.voicenet.com!omni2!cmosley From: cmosley@voicenet.com (Christopher Mosley) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: 132x43 text mode Date: 31 Mar 1997 18:22:31 GMT Organization: Voicenet - Internet Access - (215)674-9290 Lines: 10 Message-ID: <5hovd7$c62$1@news2.voicenet.com> References: <5hoho4$2kn@news1.voicenet.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: omni2.voicenet.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6848 Christopher Mosley (cmosley@voicenet.com) wrote: Though you can start mskermit in available text modes, there seems to be no way to switch back and forth while using kermit - other than to and from 80x25 and 132x25 ? cmosley From news@columbia.edu Wed Apr 2 09:49:08 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA27549 for ; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 09:49:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA01453 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 09:49:07 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: wanted: Refused Disposition explanation Date: 2 Apr 1997 14:49:05 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 22 Message-ID: <5htrl1$gme$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <859969673.27378@dejanews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6849 In article <859969673.27378@dejanews.com>, wrote: : I'd be grateful if anyone can explain what is going wrong with this : transfer from an UNIX system running AIX to a PC running MS-DOS. It : happens occasionally and a subsequent attempt will succeed without any : changes being made on either the UNIX system or the target PC. : : Sending C04067.XFR : as C04067.XFR : mode: text : file character set US ASCII : xfer character set transparent : refused disposition : *** interrupted, sending discard request : Normally when you send a file, the disposition (what to do with the file when it arrives) is "store it on the disk". However, Kermit can also send files with other dispositions, like "print", "send as e-mail", "submit as a batch job", etc. If the receiver does not support the indicated disposition, or cannot handle the specifics (e.g. an invalid printer name was given for a print job), it refuses the file with reason: disposition. - Frank From news@columbia.edu Wed Apr 2 11:59:46 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA24206 for ; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 11:59:44 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA13173 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 11:59:44 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.apfel.de!serra.unipi.it!news-ge.switch.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!ubnsrv.unisource.ch!ubnnews.unisource.ch!newssrv.ita.tip.net!venere.inet.it!urano.inet.it!news@inet.it From: rober@proxys.it (Roberto Perelli) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: MS-Kermit 3.14 hungs up under MS-WINDOWS 31 Date: Wed, 02 Apr 1997 14:53:35 GMT Organization: I.NET - Customers News Server Lines: 14 Message-ID: <334270ae.28549042@news.inet.it> NNTP-Posting-Host: proxys.inet.it X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.1/32.230 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6850 I'have an application written with DELPHI and running under WINDOWS 31 that run MS-Kermit 3.14 within a DOS shell. Kermit executes some scripts to dial-up, connect, terminal emulation and file transfer. At the end, when the last script hungs-up the modem Kermit stops and does not terminate releasing the DOS shell. This does not happens in all cases, but happened on two different PC with same RAM, config.sys, autoexec.bat, win.ini. Any idea about? Thank you in advance. From news@columbia.edu Wed Apr 2 12:07:03 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA25727 for ; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 12:07:03 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA19734 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 12:07:02 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: MS-Kermit 3.14 hungs up under MS-WINDOWS 31 Date: 2 Apr 1997 17:06:54 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 30 Message-ID: <5hu3ne$avd$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <334270ae.28549042@news.inet.it> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6851 In article <334270ae.28549042@news.inet.it>, Roberto Perelli wrote: : I'have an application written with DELPHI and running under WINDOWS 31 : that run MS-Kermit 3.14 within a DOS shell. : Kermit executes some scripts to dial-up, connect, terminal emulation : and file transfer. : : At the end, when the last script hungs-up the modem Kermit stops and : does not terminate releasing the DOS shell. : : This does not happens in all cases, but happened on two different PC : with same RAM, config.sys, autoexec.bat, win.ini. : First, make sure your script is REALLY hanging up the modem. See the Kermit FAQ, item 13: http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/faq.html ftp://kermit.columbia.edu/kermit/faq.txt Second, if your version of MS-DOS Kermit has a SET EXIT WARNING command, include "set exit warning off" in your script (in case the modem does not turn off the Carrier Detect signal). Third, after taking every measure to ensure the modem is hung up, make sure your script executes an EXIT command. If none of these help, then you'll have to look more carefully at your Delphi program and/or Windows configuration. - Frank From news@columbia.edu Wed Apr 2 13:21:43 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA11171 for ; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 13:21:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA12543 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 13:21:38 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!news.new-york.net!uunet!in2.uu.net!204.71.0.48!newsfeed.internetmci.com!newshub.csu.net!not-for-mail From: tem@library.humboldt.edu (Tom Mendenhall) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: testing for busy networked com port Date: 2 Apr 1997 17:45:26 GMT Organization: Information Resources and Technology Lines: 18 Message-ID: <5hu5vm$9jc$1@nuke.csu.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: library.humboldt.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 950824BETA PL0] Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6852 I know this is a kermit list, but it is related to mskermit. We have a Netware 3.12 server running Netware Connect 1.x with NCS services loaded. I can load nasi and nint14 on the workstation. If the single com port is being used by another workstation, nasi and nint14 load, but the user can't connect. The errorlevel returned by nint14 does not give an indication of success in connecting to the port (loaded in a batch file). Is it possible to write a program that checks DTR on the com port to see if the port is busy? Any ideas would be appreciated. Thanks, Tom Mendenhall HSU Library systems From news@columbia.edu Wed Apr 2 14:39:57 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA28941 for ; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 14:39:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA15941 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 14:39:56 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!ais.net!newsfeed.concentric.net!news-master!news From: agent@agent.com Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: ***WHO IS AGENT ACTION!?*** Date: Wed, 2 Apr 1997 11:58:35 Organization: Concentric Internet Services Lines: 219 Message-ID: <5hub4n$epb@chronicle.concentric.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: cnc012031.concentric.net Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6853 1 ** "CLONING" MOVIE MAY PROVOKE THEATER RIOTS! ** Anticipation is so high for the new sci-fi action movie AGENT ACTION! that international theater owners are worried. Some feel their venues may be the magnet for riots. One of the movies main themes is human cloning. With cloning as a red-hot topic and the movies anticipated big budget look with gorgeous nude US playmates, the number of moviegoers is predicted to be record breaking! AGENT ACTION! is reported to be a sci-fi flick in the secret agent "Bond" Style. It sports exotic locations, impressive cinematography, and the aforementioned naked, big-breasted actresses. (Including Erika Olsen / Playboy Mar 97) The movie stars and is directed by charismatic and multi talented new leading man William Blair. It features celebrity guest villains and co-stars the talented Jerry Lee Kmiec. AGENT ACTION! is currently in the middle of a heated bidding war by international distributors. The winner may have more than just an ordinary hit on its hands. It may have the milestone catalyst of an international event. *************************************************************************************************** 2 OSCAR PICK FAVE FOR 97 ? AGENT ACTION! Talk for the next Oscars has already started. And the news is overwhelming for one film: AGENT ACTION! What "ACTION" seems to have is what the current Oscar picks lacked: both great directing, great acting, and great writing all in one. And the lions credit is aimed at one man; multi -talented star and director William Blair.l Insiders are predicting Blair may receive the most multiple Oscar wins ever: As best actor, best director, and best writer. What's more: as producer and special effects director of photography consultant: he might also nab the best picture Oscar and cinematography Oscars, too! Can Blair and AGENT ACTION! pull off this unprecedented feat? It would certainly be a day for the all time record books. Of course this is just speculation at this point. One thing is certain, though, 1997 is the year for moviegoers to enjoy AGENT ACTION! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 3 CAN AGENT ACTION! CRUSH SCHWARZENEGGER? One fact seems clear: William Blair is the world's hot new action star! Not only that, he appears to be a World-Class director as well. It is this multi-talent capability- and freshness- that has Schwarzeneger and Stallone scared - yes, the world seems to be saying, replace these old fogies with new talent! William Blair, and AGENT ACTION! seem to be the cure for the movie goers case of tired old action star Blues! Arnold / Sly - next stop is the old folks rest home for you! We're William Blair fans now! Long live # 1 action star William Blair! - AGENT ACTION! ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// 4 SEX, NUDITY, AND AGENT ACTION! For the many curious to see big breasted naked actresses in AGENT ACTION!,- there is good news. A preview/trailer is now reportedly in the cutting stages. This minute and a half of selected scenes should wet the palate of the curious. AGENT ACTION!, a "Bond" type thriller set in the near future, is highly anticipated. It reportedly features the aforementioned Big breasted actresses ( including Erika Olsen/ Playboy Mar 97 ) among several other ravishing beauties. The movie is said to star and be directed by multi talented new leading man William Blair. Celebrity guest villains round out the colorful cast. The movie apparently also features lush exotic locations from around the world. Excellent cinematography and a tight nit thriller story round out this highly anticipated production. This is probably the most anticipated movie on the planet today. And the thought of a trailer - possibly soon downloadable on the net - is fantastic. But hurry please! The wait is almost more than curious movie buffs can bear! ****************** /////////////////////////// ************************* /////////////// 5 JAPANESE "ABREAST" OF AGENT ACTION! Tokyo. If there's one group of moviegoers clamoring to see AGENT ACTION! - It's the Japanese. They certainly have a yen for big breasted naked blondes - and AGENT ACTION! will supply that - and more! Nippon theater owners apparently are in a rare fight to obtain the first prints of AGENT ACTION! It is said to be the most anticipated movie in the Orient. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 6 WHY DOES AGENT ACTION FEATURE NUDE BREASTS? 'Cause Secret Agents love them! How could Sean Connery, Roger Moore, or Pierce Brosnan battle villains without a little jiggle? And the same goes for new Agent extraordinaire William Blair - AGENT ACTION! ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 7 RUSH - FOR WORLD WIDE RELEASE IS AGENT ACTION! THE GREATEST MOVIE EVER MADE? Film fans, critics, and cinephiles the world over are engaged in a heated debate. Is the new Sci-fi action film AGENT ACTION! the greatest movie ever made? Opposition is fierce. Names such as Welles, Kubrick, Scorsese, Spielberg, and Oliver Stone are of course getting huge support. Movies such as Citizen Kane, 2001, Goodfellas, ET, and Platoon are being heralded as the all time champs. And yet, the new found furor won't subside. AGENT ACTION! now has its own legions of rising vocal fans. And its star/ director William Blair is receiving the lion's share of the credit. Can this new group of fans, of a movie not yet even released be right? Can the few purportedly bootlegged copies of an advance rough cut be enough proof? Is AGENT ACTION! such a highly commendable piece of celluloid? History be damned these new fans seem to be saying. Forget the work of the "old fogies", William Blair Is the brilliant purveyor of cinema's future! And AGENT ACTION! is proof - at 24 frames per living color second! =============================================================== 8 SEX, ROMANCE, AND AGENT ACTION - WILLIAM BLAIR! Girls, Good News - William Blair is single! Yes the 6 ft, 185 lb. leading man is available! And if his blue eyes don't get you - his charming and suave manner will! Check him out in AGENT ACTION! Then in his exciting new upcoming feature THE RIDE! ((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((( 9 WAR! - BIDDING BATTLE BREWING Major movie distributors are sharpening their pens. Agents and Lawyers are taking sides. Telephone faxes are arming for duty. Why? For the bloody battle over the international distribution rights to AGENT ACTION! The movie world landscape is now upside down. How? Witness ancient releases like Star Wars now doing first run BlockBuster business. Plus expensive new releases are bombing. With this confusion its a new war out there. And formerly defended movie turf is up for grabs! Which studio army can capture the anticipated blockbuster AGENT ACTION!? Will it be a major battaliion force like UNIVERSAL? Of can a rising guierrila army like Miramax or Gramercy capture the goods? No one can predict the battle's outcome yet. But one victor is certain: the Audience. The World Audience - millions of popcorn and action loving troops who will be the happy victors as they embrace viewing AGENT ACTION! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 10 WILLIAM BLAIR - TRUE INDEPENDENT - NOT SUNDANCE ASS- KISSER While most Independent filmmakers nowadays are just shameless ass kissers - of Sundance "god" Robert Redford, William Blair stands alone. The so called Independent movie movement is sickening. Independent - Independent of what? Most of these films are undisguised "auditions" for studio jobs. And the cast lists of these movies look exactly like their Studio cousins: Tori Spelling for godsakes! And most of these butt-kiss directors need to start living a life - rather than patterning these grotesque homages to angst populated by the ever tiring Steve Buscemi ( Whoever said this guy could act? ) The real barfola however, is how the "intelligensia" and "psuedo hip" are pronouncing Oscar kudos on these lightweight nothing movies. Lets face if folks: Ransom was a much better film than Fargo. Wake up you morons. Can anyone even sit through Fargo twice without falling into a deep coma. And last years Spitfire Grill - what a joke that was! It had all the thrills and technique of a bad TV movie of the week! Is there hope? Damn tootin! And my vote for movie of the year is AGENT ACTION! It cuts the sprocket holes off those "independent" lemming-ized ass-kisser movies . /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// From news@columbia.edu Wed Apr 2 20:42:52 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA19672 for ; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 20:42:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA04387 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 20:42:51 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-chi-13.sprintlink.net!news.azstarnet.com!news From: Bill Wailgum Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: DEC ethernet? Date: Wed, 02 Apr 1997 18:42:47 -0800 Organization: Starnet Lines: 9 Message-ID: <33431927.B72@azstarnet.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: usr15ip57.azstarnet.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (WinNT; I) Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6854 Hello, I am about to embark on a project that will attempt to connect a Win95 PC to a MicroVax running MicroVMS 4.6 -- My medium will be the DEC ethernet. Both the Vax and the PC are already connected to the hub. The question is -- Is my plan to use Kermit to interface the two systems via the DEC ethernet plausible? Or am I going to try something that won't work? Thanks for your Ideas, Bill From news@columbia.edu Thu Apr 3 04:31:52 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA01187 for ; Thu, 3 Apr 1997 04:31:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA19776 for kermit.misc@watsun; Thu, 3 Apr 1997 04:31:50 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news-xfer.netaxs.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!cs.utexas.edu!news.cs.utah.edu!cc.usu.edu!jrd From: jrd@cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: 132x43 text mode Message-ID: <1997Apr2.094728.96219@cc.usu.edu> Date: 2 Apr 97 09:47:28 MDT References: <5hoho4$2kn@news1.voicenet.com> <5hovd7$c62$1@news2.voicenet.com> Organization: Utah State University Lines: 15 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6855 In article <5hovd7$c62$1@news2.voicenet.com>, cmosley@voicenet.com (Christopher Mosley) writes: > Christopher Mosley (cmosley@voicenet.com) wrote: > > > Though you can start mskermit in available text modes, there seems > to be no way to switch back and forth while using kermit - other than > to and from 80x25 and 132x25 ? > cmosley ---------------- The remote host can request 80 or 132 column screens, the user can request the same (SET TERM WIDTH). 25 rows is standard for VTxxx terminals, 43 lines is a PC item supported by some display adapters and not by others, and often in vendor specific form, so I can't deal with that effectively in the Kermit code. Joe D. From news@columbia.edu Thu Apr 3 09:40:28 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA02233 for ; Thu, 3 Apr 1997 09:40:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA03913 for kermit.misc@watsun; Thu, 3 Apr 1997 09:40:26 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: DEC ethernet? Date: 3 Apr 1997 14:40:15 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 31 Message-ID: <5i0fgf$hhm$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <33431927.B72@azstarnet.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6856 In article <33431927.B72@azstarnet.com>, Bill Wailgum wrote: : I am about to embark on a project that will attempt to connect a Win95 : PC to a MicroVax running MicroVMS 4.6 -- My medium will be the DEC : ethernet. Both the Vax and the PC are already connected to the hub. The : question is -- Is my plan to use Kermit to interface the two systems via : the DEC ethernet plausible? Or am I going to try something that won't : work? : You need something "under" Kermit first. There are many alternatives, none of them free (well, few of them). You need to purchase a TCP/IP package for VMS (Windows 95 already has TCP/IP), or else you need to purchase a LAT or DECnet product for Windows 95 (VMS already has LAT and DECnet). TCP/IP usually makes the most sense, because you can use it to access "billions and billions" of computers and services. (There is also a free TCP/IP for VMS -- the CMU/Tektronix version -- but by all accounts installation and upkeep are a big job compared to the commercial products.) Having done this, you'll need a good VT320 emulator for Windows 95. Kermit 95 can do this over LAT (Meridian Technologies SuperLAT) or TCP/IP (Telnet or Rlogin), and of course also on serial connections, direct or dialed. More info at: http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/k95.html And of course C-Kermit for VMS: http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/ck60.html - Frank From news@columbia.edu Thu Apr 3 14:21:58 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA27267 for ; Thu, 3 Apr 1997 14:21:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA16043 for kermit.misc@watsun; Thu, 3 Apr 1997 14:21:57 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news-peer.gsl.net!mr.net!supernews.com!news From: richardfeinberg@usa.net Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: FIREARMS SALE Date: Wed, 2 Apr 1997 16:04:02 Organization: All USENET -- http://www.Supernews.com Lines: 62 Message-ID: <5hui0m$n5f@usenet85.supernews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp418.gis.net Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6857 An estate collection consisting of over 200 new and used handguns, long guns and shotsguns is available for sale. 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Date: 3 Apr 1997 21:24:44 GMT Organization: National Federation of the Blind of Washington Message-ID: <5i176s$87h$1@news.pacifier.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: pacifier.com Lines: 10 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6858 In writing scripts for C-Kermit, is there anyway to ascertain the status of "set quiet"? That is, from a script, is there any way to tell whether someone has done a "set quiet on" or "set quiet off"? Thanks in advance. -- Mike Freeman; Internet: mikef@pacifier.com Amateur Radio Callsign: K7UIJ /* PGP2.6.2 Public Key available via my ".plan" file */ .. A mathematician is a machine for turning coffee into theeroms. From news@columbia.edu Thu Apr 3 17:51:11 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA12997 for ; Thu, 3 Apr 1997 17:51:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA01998 for kermit.misc@watsun; Thu, 3 Apr 1997 17:51:10 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Any Way to Ascertain "Set Quiet" Status? Date: 3 Apr 1997 22:51:06 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 11 Message-ID: <5i1c8q$nmg$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <5i176s$87h$1@news.pacifier.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6859 In article <5i176s$87h$1@news.pacifier.com>, Mike Freeman wrote: : In writing scripts for C-Kermit, is there anyway to ascertain the status : of "set quiet"? That is, from a script, is there any way to tell whether : someone has done a "set quiet on" or "set quiet off"? : Currently, no, sorry. Ideally we would have a variable or IF condition for every conceivable setting, but that's an awful lot of code... But this one could be added easily -- I'll put it on the list for a future release. - Frank From news@columbia.edu Thu Apr 3 23:47:52 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA05198 for ; Thu, 3 Apr 1997 23:47:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA17265 for kermit.misc@watsun; Thu, 3 Apr 1997 23:47:51 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-feed4.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!coop.net!news.vail.net!news From: dp-realtors@vail.net (Distinguished Properties Realtors) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: HELP with Kermit???!!! Date: Fri, 04 Apr 1997 01:54:50 GMT Organization: VailNet Lines: 17 Message-ID: <33445f58.5643663@news> NNTP-Posting-Host: vailmax38.nsn.net X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.1/16.230 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6860 I'm looking for some help finding a PC based TERMINAL emulation software for communications to a Prime host over a modem (RS232), which is compatible with the following KERMIT running on a Prime Computer: Kermit-Prime , Version 2.03, dated 4/29/87 (Long Packets) My current PC based softwares are erroring because of a requirement for a 5 bit checksum. I need a CLIENT APPLICATION which will match the above mentioned KERMIT SERVER. HELP!!! I'd appreciate suggestions from anyone. I can also use SCO UNIX based software for the same purpose. Thanks in advance... David From news@columbia.edu Fri Apr 4 07:12:49 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA22722 for ; Fri, 4 Apr 1997 07:12:49 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA21355 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 4 Apr 1997 07:12:48 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!news.msfc.nasa.gov!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in2.uu.net!204.238.120.21!jump.net!grunt.dejanews.com!not-for-mail Date: Fri, 04 Apr 1997 02:01:17 -0600 From: e.ingram@uk22p.bull.co.uk Subject: Re: wanted: Refused Disposition explanation Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Message-ID: <860140780.32126@dejanews.com> Organization: Deja News Usenet Posting Service References: <859969673.27378@dejanews.com> <5htrl1$gme$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> X-Article-Creation-Date: Fri Apr 04 07:59:40 1997 GMT X-Originating-IP-Addr: 137.213.252.252 (beehive-pipex.uk03.bull.co.uk) X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/2.0 (compatible; MSIE 3.01; Windows 3.1) X-Authenticated-Sender: e.ingram@uk22p.bull.co.uk Lines: 26 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6861 In article <5htrl1$gme$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu>, fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) wrote: > > Normally when you send a file, the disposition (what to do with the file > when it arrives) is "store it on the disk". However, Kermit can also send > files with other dispositions, like "print", "send as e-mail", "submit as > a batch job", etc. If the receiver does not support the indicated > disposition, or cannot handle the specifics (e.g. an invalid printer name > was given for a print job), it refuses the file with reason: disposition. > In this instance, the default "store it on disk" disposition is in use. Checks have been made on the target PC and there is no shortage of space available. The target destination on the PC is *not* the root directory so there can be no problem with the number of files present in the target directory. The connection between the systems is a dial_up line and is generally reliable. What circumstances might give rise to this type of transfer failure? Eric -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet From news@columbia.edu Fri Apr 4 11:21:26 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA29053 for ; Fri, 4 Apr 1997 11:21:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA05850 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 4 Apr 1997 11:21:25 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: HELP with Kermit???!!! Date: 4 Apr 1997 16:21:24 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 29 Message-ID: <5i39q4$906$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <33445f58.5643663@news> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6862 In article <33445f58.5643663@news>, Distinguished Properties Realtors wrote: : I'm looking for some help finding a PC based TERMINAL emulation : software for communications to a Prime host over a modem (RS232), : which is compatible with the following KERMIT running on a Prime : Computer: : : Kermit-Prime , Version 2.03, dated 4/29/87 (Long Packets) : : My current PC based softwares are erroring because of a requirement : for a 5 bit checksum. I need a CLIENT APPLICATION which will match : the above mentioned KERMIT SERVER. : You didn't say what operating system your PC is running. DOS? Windows 3.x? Windows 95? Windows NT? OS/2? Some form of UNIX? etc etc. We have Kermit software for all of these, and it should be compatible with the Prime version. Or if it isn't, you can upgrade your Prime version of Kermit to the current release, 8.15, April 1993, which was tested against the other Kermit programs for interoperability. : HELP!!! I'd appreciate suggestions from anyone. I can also use SCO : UNIX based software for the same purpose. : We have that too. Browse through our website to find the appropriate Kermit software for your PC platform: http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/ - Frank From news@columbia.edu Fri Apr 4 11:23:18 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA29310 for ; Fri, 4 Apr 1997 11:23:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA06020 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 4 Apr 1997 11:23:17 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: wanted: Refused Disposition explanation Date: 4 Apr 1997 16:23:17 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 17 Message-ID: <5i39tl$91j$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <859969673.27378@dejanews.com> <5htrl1$gme$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> <860140780.32126@dejanews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6863 In article <860140780.32126@dejanews.com>, wrote: : In article <5htrl1$gme$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu>, : fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) wrote: : > Normally when you send a file, the disposition (what to do with the file : > when it arrives) is "store it on the disk". However, Kermit can also send : > files with other dispositions, like "print", "send as e-mail", "submit as : > a batch job", etc. If the receiver does not support the indicated : > disposition, or cannot handle the specifics (e.g. an invalid printer name : > was given for a print job), it refuses the file with reason: disposition. : : In this instance, the default "store it on disk" disposition is in use. : If you can reproduce the problem, please collect a packet log and send it in to kermit-support@columbia.edu for analysis, along with a description of the systems, OSs, Kermit programs, and versions on each end. - Frank From news@columbia.edu Fri Apr 4 13:08:12 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA23772 for ; Fri, 4 Apr 1997 13:08:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA10883 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 4 Apr 1997 13:08:07 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!news.indiana.edu!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!ais.net!uunet!in3.uu.net!207.114.4.10!news.abs.net!not-for-mail From: "Webmaster Jim" Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Area code "overlay" dialing Date: 4 Apr 1997 13:53:50 GMT Organization: The Earth Lines: 9 Message-ID: <5i315e$1tl$1@news.abs.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: mail.bcpl.lib.md.us Summary: How to dial within two area codes? Keywords: KERMIT DIAL AREA CODES Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6864 Maryland is going to 4 area codes from 2 shortly, but with the overlay scheme so that my neighbor may have a different area code. I can dial these with or without the (1-) prefix. How can I tell Kermit that all local calls within the two area codes I now have need the area code added to the dialer? As a fix, I've set my area code to 000, so that all calls are now considered long distance. I'm mainly using C-Kermit on UNIX, but I also use MS and K95. From news@columbia.edu Fri Apr 4 13:17:29 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA25647 for ; Fri, 4 Apr 1997 13:17:29 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA11356 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 4 Apr 1997 13:17:27 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Area code "overlay" dialing Date: 4 Apr 1997 18:17:24 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 23 Message-ID: <5i3gjk$dan$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <5i315e$1tl$1@news.abs.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Keywords: KERMIT DIAL AREA CODES Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6865 In article <5i315e$1tl$1@news.abs.net>, Webmaster Jim wrote: : Maryland is going to 4 area codes from 2 shortly, but with the : overlay scheme so that my neighbor may have a different area : code. I can dial these with or without the (1-) prefix. : How can I tell Kermit that all local calls within the two : area codes I now have need the area code added to the dialer? : : As a fix, I've set my area code to 000, so that all calls : are now considered long distance. I'm mainly using C-Kermit : on UNIX, but I also use MS and K95. : Do you have the second edition of "Using C-Kermit"? Did you read Chapter 5? Basically, the upshot is: there is NO WAY Kermit or any other program could know that +1 (301) 7654321 is a local call, but +1 (301) 7654322 is long distance. So you'll need to construct macros along the lines of those described on pages 110-112 of the manual, and use the appropriate one for dialing each kind of number. If you don't have the second edition, look for this info in the DIALING.DOC (or .TXT) file in your Kermit 95 DOCS directory. - Frank From news@columbia.edu Fri Apr 4 13:32:26 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA29938 for ; Fri, 4 Apr 1997 13:32:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA12029 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 4 Apr 1997 13:32:25 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed2.aimnet.com!news1.aplatform.com!nntp.mainstreet.net!bug.rahul.net!rahul.net!a2i!samba.rahul.net!rahul.net!a2i!dold.a2i!dold From: dold@29.usenet.us.com Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: wanted: Refused Disposition explanation Date: 4 Apr 1997 17:22:56 GMT Organization: a2i network Lines: 13 Message-ID: <5i3ddg$25m@samba.rahul.net> References: <859969673.27378@dejanews.com> <5htrl1$gme$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> <860140780.32126@dejanews.com> Reply-To: dold@network.rahul.net NNTP-Posting-Host: foxtrot.rahul.net NNTP-Posting-User: dold X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] X-Comment: Encoded From: line allows replies that preserve original subject Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6866 e.ingram@uk22p.bull.co.uk wrote: : In this instance, the default "store it on disk" disposition is in use. Perhaps a "set file names literal" with a name from the mainframe that is illegal on the PC? Or "set file send pathnames on", with a drive/directory spec that isn't understood? -- --- Clarence A Dold - dold@network.rahul.net - Pope Valley & Napa CA. From news@columbia.edu Fri Apr 4 15:06:19 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA27305 for ; Fri, 4 Apr 1997 15:06:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA16651 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 4 Apr 1997 15:06:18 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!news.cs.columbia.edu!psinntp!howland.erols.net!cs.utexas.edu!news.cs.utah.edu!cc.usu.edu!jrd From: jrd@cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: testing for busy networked com port Message-ID: <1997Apr3.143822.96283@cc.usu.edu> Date: 3 Apr 97 14:38:22 MDT References: <5hu5vm$9jc$1@nuke.csu.net> Organization: Utah State University Lines: 23 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6867 In article <5hu5vm$9jc$1@nuke.csu.net>, tem@library.humboldt.edu (Tom Mendenhall) writes: > I know this is a kermit list, but it is related to mskermit. > We have a Netware 3.12 server running Netware Connect 1.x with > NCS services loaded. > > I can load nasi and nint14 on the workstation. If the single > com port is being used by another workstation, nasi and nint14 > load, but the user can't connect. The errorlevel returned by > nint14 does not give an indication of success in connecting > to the port (loaded in a batch file). > > Is it possible to write a program that checks DTR on > the com port to see if the port is busy? Any ideas would be > appreciated. > > Thanks, > Tom Mendenhall > HSU Library systems ------------ Tom, you are right: the msg is well off topic for this list. Try an RS-232C breakout box (see your campus datacoms people or any computer comms supply house). Joe D. From news@columbia.edu Sat Apr 5 05:33:32 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA18671 for ; Sat, 5 Apr 1997 05:33:31 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA25928 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sat, 5 Apr 1997 05:33:30 -0500 (EST) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Path: news.columbia.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!news.indiana.edu!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!ais.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.apfel.de!fu-berlin.de!news.th-darmstadt.de!news.swb.de!brewhq.swb.de!pixie!not-for-mail From: kk@pixie.swb.de (KK) Subject: How to set 0, as prefix? X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 950824BETA PL0] Sender: news@pixie.swb.de Lines: 14 Organization: homebase Message-ID: X-Nntp-Posting-Host: localhost Date: Sat, 5 Apr 1997 09:19:02 GMT Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6868 I am trying to set the above prefix using both set dial prefix set dial pbx-prefix but kermit seems to dial ATDT00... without the "," ! Does anybody have a suggestion? Karsten Kreher internet kk@pixie.swb.de !!! Seerobenstrasse 29 !!! !!! 65195 Wiesbaden !!! !!! tel +49 172 6503264 !!! !!! fax +49 611 409500 !!! From news@columbia.edu Sat Apr 5 11:18:58 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA02794 for ; Sat, 5 Apr 1997 11:18:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA13623 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sat, 5 Apr 1997 11:18:57 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!spool.mu.edu!uwm.edu!news-peer.gsl.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!yale!oitnews.harvard.edu!mercury!jay From: Jay Daly Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: K95 Script Local Echoing Date: Sat, 5 Apr 1997 11:08:31 -0500 Organization: Beth Israel Deaconess Med Ctr Boston MA Lines: 29 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: mercury.bih.harvard.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: jay@mercury Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6869 When running script-managed telnet sessions with K95 (1.1.11), characters sent via the output command aren't echoed locally. Characters typed in CONNECT mode are, though, as are characters sent via the TRANSMIT command (which follows the local SET TERM setting, according to Using C-K e2; again indicating that the local echo is set appropriately). A check of the active connection shows that "Echoing is currently local." I don't want to have them echoed by the remote server, since everything works fine in connect mode, and I can manually insert echo commands into the script to display such output data as might be necessary to clarify the session, but I thought I'd check first to see if I was missing something. Maybe some magical SET OUTPUT ECHO ON command? TIA for any help you can give. (BTW, no problem with echoing output in similar scripts using MSK 3.15.) Jay Jay Daly jay@bidmc.harvard.edu QuickDOC 45A Mason Terrace Phone: (617) 734-0918 Brookline, MA 02146 Fax: (617) 734-3154 From news@columbia.edu Sat Apr 5 12:17:24 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA11911 for ; Sat, 5 Apr 1997 12:17:23 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA16544 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sat, 5 Apr 1997 12:17:23 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: How to set 0, as prefix? Date: 5 Apr 1997 17:17:21 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 24 Message-ID: <5i61f1$t7j$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6870 In article , KK wrote: : I am trying to set the above prefix using both : set dial prefix : set dial pbx-prefix : but kermit seems to dial ATDT00... without the "," ! : I assume you are talking about C-Kermit or Kermit 95 or Kermit/2, right? It's not clear from your question what, exactly, you are trying to do. What do you mean by "prefix"? Long-distance prefix? International prefix? PBX outside line prefix? Where are you dialing from, and what number are you dialing, and what do you want Kermit to do to the number before dialing it? Are you using a dialing directory? Is the telephone number you are calling stored in portable or literal format? It sounds like you need to read Chapter 5 of "Using C-Kermit", second edition, which explains dialing procedures in complete detail: http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/ck60manual.html - Frank From news@columbia.edu Sat Apr 5 12:25:06 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA12930 for ; Sat, 5 Apr 1997 12:25:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA17005 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sat, 5 Apr 1997 12:25:03 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: K95 Script Local Echoing Date: 5 Apr 1997 17:24:56 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 27 Message-ID: <5i61t8$59$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6871 In article , Jay Daly wrote: : : When running script-managed telnet sessions with K95 (1.1.11), characters : sent via the output command aren't echoed locally. Characters typed in : CONNECT mode are, though, as are characters sent via the TRANSMIT command : (which follows the local SET TERM setting, according to Using C-K e2; : again indicating that the local echo is set appropriately). A check of : the active connection shows that "Echoing is currently local." : : I don't want to have them echoed by the remote server, since everything : works fine in connect mode, and I can manually insert echo commands into : the script to display such output data as might be necessary to clarify : the session, but I thought I'd check first to see if I was missing : something. : : Maybe some magical SET OUTPUT ECHO ON command? : : TIA for any help you can give. (BTW, no problem with echoing output in : similar scripts using MSK 3.15.) : Good call. If DUPLEX is HALF (or TERMINAL ECHO is LOCAL, same thing) and SET INPUT ECHO is ON, then OUTPUT should also echo locally. Presently it does not. We'll fix this in the next release. (Btw, OUTPUT does handle session logging correctly in this case.) - Frank From news@columbia.edu Sat Apr 5 13:24:57 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA23467 for ; Sat, 5 Apr 1997 13:24:56 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA19823 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sat, 5 Apr 1997 13:24:55 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.eecs.umich.edu!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!cs.utexas.edu!news.cs.utah.edu!cc.usu.edu!jrd From: jrd@cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: wanted: Refused Disposition explanation Message-ID: <1997Apr5.103337.96367@cc.usu.edu> Date: 5 Apr 97 10:33:37 MDT References: <859969673.27378@dejanews.com> <860140780.32126@dejanews.com> Organization: Utah State University Lines: 29 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6872 In article <860140780.32126@dejanews.com>, e.ingram@uk22p.bull.co.uk writes: > In article <5htrl1$gme$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu>, > fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) wrote: >> >> Normally when you send a file, the disposition (what to do with the file >> when it arrives) is "store it on the disk". However, Kermit can also send >> files with other dispositions, like "print", "send as e-mail", "submit as >> a batch job", etc. If the receiver does not support the indicated >> disposition, or cannot handle the specifics (e.g. an invalid printer name >> was given for a print job), it refuses the file with reason: disposition. >> > > In this instance, the default "store it on disk" disposition is in use. > Checks have been made on the target PC and there is no shortage of space > available. The target destination on the PC is *not* the root directory > so there can be no problem with the number of files present in the target > directory. > > The connection between the systems is a dial_up line and is generally > reliable. > > What circumstances might give rise to this type of transfer failure? ---------- Because MS-DOS must use DOS to access the file system then any blockage of writing to the named file will result in an error condition. Simply marking a file as read-only is sufficient. Similarly, if another program has the file opened for exclusive access then writing will be blocked. Joe D. From news@columbia.edu Mon Apr 7 06:11:37 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA21879 for ; Mon, 7 Apr 1997 06:11:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA16763 for kermit.misc@watsun; Mon, 7 Apr 1997 06:11:33 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.eecs.umich.edu!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!feed1.news.erols.com!news.ecn.uoknor.edu!munnari.OZ.AU!news.mel.connect.com.au!psdcomms.psd.com.au!stevenr From: stevenr@psd.com.au (Steven Russell) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: mskermit 'all possible terminal settings tried unsuccessfull' Date: 7 Apr 1997 06:25:35 GMT Organization: Prometheus Software Lines: 24 Message-ID: <5ia40v$odt@psdcomms.psd.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: ibmj30 X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6873 Hi, I'm trying to use MS-kermit to send and received files from an AIX server. Mskermit version is IBM-PC MS-DOS Kermit 3.13 8 July 1993 MS-DOS KErmit 3.01 initialization file I'm dialing the unix server from the pc (running win95). After getting a connect signal the message 'all possible terminal settings tried unsuccessfully' and the modem drops carrier. I can use a different pc / modem and connect to the same modem on the unix server using the same MSkermit version and after the connect signal I get a login prompt (ie: works perfectly). On the laptop which has problems connecting using kermit I can use a different terminal emulater and I do not get any problems. I think I've elimiated the possiblity of a hardward problem. Could it be the MSkermit version? If so where can I get a newer version? Is there problems using MSkermit on a pc running '95? Any assitance greatly appreciated. regards stevenr@psd.com.au From news@columbia.edu Mon Apr 7 10:54:50 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA03305 for ; Mon, 7 Apr 1997 10:54:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA13082 for kermit.misc@watsun; Mon, 7 Apr 1997 10:54:49 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: mskermit 'all possible terminal settings tried unsuccessfull' Date: 7 Apr 1997 14:54:47 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 16 Message-ID: <5ib1rn$jgg$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <5ia40v$odt@psdcomms.psd.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6874 In article <5ia40v$odt@psdcomms.psd.com.au>, Steven Russell wrote: : Hi, : : I'm trying to use MS-kermit to send and received files from an AIX server. : Mskermit version is : IBM-PC MS-DOS Kermit 3.13 8 July 1993 : MS-DOS KErmit 3.01 initialization file : : I'm dialing the unix server from the pc (running win95). : Then you should be using Kermit 95: http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/k95.html - Frank From news@columbia.edu Mon Apr 7 13:50:20 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA13268 for ; Mon, 7 Apr 1997 13:50:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA21851 for kermit.misc@watsun; Mon, 7 Apr 1997 13:50:18 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-dc-9.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-dc-5.sprintlink.net!news.webIT.eds.com!hobbes.tad.eds.com!maverick.tad.eds.com!news-admin@tad.eds.com From: Roy Buzdor Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Kermit-RTE Date: Mon, 07 Apr 1997 10:57:39 -0700 Organization: EDS Lansing Fab Lines: 12 Message-ID: <33493593.428E@eds.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 130.173.130.137 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Win16; I) Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6875 I have been using Kermit-RTE on an HP-1000 for several years now. I have 2 versions, 0.99 and 1.98, which as far as I can determine, are pretty much the same. These older version of Kermit lack an IF-THEN structure, which I need to perform automated data-comm. Is there a newer version of Kermit available for the HP-1000? [No, I do not have a C compiler to compile the CKermit, and RTE is different enough from UNIX, that it would require changes to the code for system calls.] I would appreciate any help for this old, but faithful machine. Buz From news@columbia.edu Mon Apr 7 14:10:35 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA17800 for ; Mon, 7 Apr 1997 14:10:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA22913 for kermit.misc@watsun; Mon, 7 Apr 1997 14:10:34 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc,comp.sys.hp.misc Subject: Re: Kermit-RTE Date: 7 Apr 1997 18:10:32 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 26 Message-ID: <5ibdao$rs7$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <33493593.428E@eds.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6876 comp.sys.hp.misc:13488 In article <33493593.428E@eds.com>, Roy Buzdor wrote: : I have been using Kermit-RTE on an HP-1000 for several : years now. I have 2 versions, 0.99 and 1.98, which as : far as I can determine, are pretty much the same. : Actually the current version is 1.99D, January 1990, which added support for the D-series multiplexer and drivers. : These older version of Kermit lack an IF-THEN structure, : which I need to perform automated data-comm. Is there : a newer version of Kermit available for the HP-1000? : If there is, nobody has sent it in to the Kermit Project. : [No, I do not have a C compiler to compile the CKermit, : and RTE is different enough from UNIX, that it would : require changes to the code for system calls.] I would : appreciate any help for this old, but faithful machine. : It would be a significant amount of work to port C-Kermit (which has a full-featured script programming language, including IF-ELSE, WHILE, FOR, SWITCH, variables, arrays, block structure, etc) to RTE (or for that matter, MPX), but if anybody is interested in taking on this task, let me know. - Frank From news@columbia.edu Mon Apr 7 14:45:51 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA27114 for ; Mon, 7 Apr 1997 14:45:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA24549 for kermit.misc@watsun; Mon, 7 Apr 1997 14:45:50 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-dc-9.sprintlink.net!news.webIT.eds.com!hobbes.tad.eds.com!maverick.tad.eds.com!news-admin@tad.eds.com From: Roy Buzdor Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc,comp.sys.hp.misc Subject: Re: Flow Control problem (AIX<->RTE-A) Date: Mon, 07 Apr 1997 13:52:35 -0700 Organization: EDS Lansing Fab Lines: 59 Message-ID: <33495E93.5119@eds.com> References: <3339B409.44A8@tpts1.seed.net.tw> <5hbgom$hqf$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: 130.173.130.137 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Win16; I) Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6877 comp.sys.hp.misc:13490 Frank da Cruz wrote: > > In article <3339B409.44A8@tpts1.seed.net.tw>, > Chien wrote: > : > : Did anyone ever use Kermit to connect a HP1000 and a RS/6000 machine? > : I use Kermit to connect a IBM RS/6000 (AIX) and a HP1000 (RTE-A) machine > : ... > : [/home/temp] C-Kermit>CONNECT > : Connecting to /dev/tty3, speed 9600. > : The escape character is Ctrl-\ (ASCII 28, FS) > : Type the escape character followed by C to get back, > : or followed by ? to see other options. > : xxx3``L~ > : (Back at fpg40a) > : > I don't think the total garbage you see after CONNECT results from a > lack or proper flow control -- it looks more like a serial-speed and/or > parity mismatch. > > In UNIX, flow control must be done by the device driver. The AIX > serial-port device driver does not support ETX/ACK, so there is no way > to have this form of flow control between AIX C-Kermit and RTE-A. > > Maybe there is some way you can make the HP1000 use Xon/Xoff? > > > - Frank The HP-1000 can be made to do XON/XOFF flow control on that port by typing in the command CN 34b 1 at a "CI" prompt. (Where is the port number of the connection). I have several HP-1000 computers talking to Unix machines, RS-6000s and HP-9000s. For each of the machines, I have the HP-1000 ports set to XON/XOFF. The transfers work quite well. Buz x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x From news@columbia.edu Tue Apr 8 20:19:33 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA17096 for ; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 20:19:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA23044 for kermit.misc@watsun; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 20:19:31 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!uunet!in3.uu.net!207.0.229.10!in-news.erinet.com!inquo!news.seinf.abb.se!erinews.ericsson.se!news From: Eric Hagman Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: DA primary device attributes request Date: Mon, 07 Apr 1997 18:45:58 -0700 Organization: Ericsson Telecom AB. Lines: 31 Message-ID: <3349A356.1E47@etrc.ericsson.se> Reply-To: Eric.Hagman@etrc.ericsson.se NNTP-Posting-Host: etxhagm.ericsson.se Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win16; I) Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6878 Hi ! I am using MS-Dos Kermit 3.15 to substitute a VT100 terminal, Connected to a PDP11 ( RS232C, COM2 9600 8N1 xon/xoff, full VT320 key mapping, Term type VT100 ). For the most it runs well, But a few programs asks for Term ID with a diffrent control sequence which Kermit does´nt understand, "ESC [ 0 c", Kermit only understand "ESC [ c", and then the graphics are gone :-(. I have not found any setup parameter for "DA primary device attributes request" ( see page 301, 302 and 308 in "Using MS-DOS Kermit" Second Edition (c) 1992 ). My user guide for VT100 states "What Are You: Invoked by ESC [ c OR ESC [ 0 c .....". Please, any suggestions are appreciated. Many Thanks Eric Evry day: Eric.Hagman@etrc.ericsson.se And somtimes: Eric.Hagman@abc.se From news@columbia.edu Tue Apr 8 20:29:09 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA18296 for ; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 20:29:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA23536 for kermit.misc@watsun; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 20:29:08 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in3.uu.net!129.59.1.25!news.vanderbilt.edu!news From: monte aspevig Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: script recorder Date: Tue, 08 Apr 1997 14:40:18 -0700 Organization: First Consulting Group Lines: 15 Message-ID: <334ABB42.169@mcmail.vanderbilt.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: 160.129.173.227 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Win16; I) Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6879 Hello. Does anyone know of a way to record scripts interactively using Kermit95 or CKERMIT? I'm trying to automate some of the script writing chore... By "record a script", I mean to trap all text sent and received by the emulator into a Kermit script file which I can use as a template and modify as needed. I Couldn't find anything on the topic in either of the following books, both written by Christine Gianone & Frank da Cruz; "Kermit 95, communications software for windows 95" and "Using C-Kermit, communication software for..." Anything you can provide would be helpful. From news@columbia.edu Tue Apr 8 20:38:11 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA21398 for ; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 20:38:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA23926 for kermit.misc@watsun; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 20:38:09 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: script recorder Date: 9 Apr 1997 00:38:03 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 12 Message-ID: <5ieodb$454$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <334ABB42.169@mcmail.vanderbilt.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6880 In article <334ABB42.169@mcmail.vanderbilt.edu>, monte aspevig wrote: : Does anyone know of a way to record scripts interactively using Kermit95 : or CKERMIT? I'm trying to automate some of the script writing chore... : : By "record a script", I mean to trap all text sent and received by the : emulator into a Kermit script file which I can use as a template and : modify as needed. : Kermit presently does not do this. It's on our list of things to add. - Frank From news@columbia.edu Wed Apr 9 07:44:55 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA22158 for ; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 07:44:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA16978 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 07:44:53 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news-peer.gsl.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!sprint!howland.erols.net!feed1.news.erols.com!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!fido.news.demon.net!demon!newsgate.unisource.nl!surfnet.nl!eur.nl!news.fgg.eur.nl!usenet From: clotscher@coh.fgg.eur.nl (Pim Clotscher) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Protection of K95 dialer entries Date: 9 Apr 1997 11:34:00 GMT Organization: Erasmus University Rotterdam Message-ID: <5ifur8$d0g@newton.fgg.eur.nl> NNTP-Posting-Host: coh-236-202.pc.fgg.eur.nl Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.7 Lines: 19 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6881 Dear Kermit 95 users, I would like to know how to make a collection of shared network host connections in the dialer that the user cannot modify (just like the pre-installed entries). Besides of that the user must be able to make his own entries, having all options available. We have K95 on a Netware server. By making the dialer's .DAT files read-only you can prevent modifications, but the user cannot add his own entries. The quick connect option is too poor, because all settings are derived from the default template, and they cannot be saved. Thank you for your help! Sincerely, -- Pim Clotscher Erasmus University Rotterdam - NL I&A - Computer Support Hoboken Tel. +31-104087420 / Fax +31-104362719 E-mail (Internet): Clotscher@coh.fgg.eur.nl From news@columbia.edu Wed Apr 9 09:44:12 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA07905 for ; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 09:44:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA22979 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 09:44:11 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Protection of K95 dialer entries Date: 9 Apr 1997 13:44:09 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 13 Message-ID: <5ig6f9$j55$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <5ifur8$d0g@newton.fgg.eur.nl> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6882 In article <5ifur8$d0g@newton.fgg.eur.nl>, Pim Clotscher wrote: : I would like to know how to make a collection of shared network host : connections in the dialer that the user cannot modify (just like the : pre-installed entries). Besides of that the user must be able to make his : own entries, having all options available. We have K95 on a Netware : server. By making the dialer's .DAT files read-only you can prevent : modifications, but the user cannot add his own entries. : The instructions for doing this are in the FAQ.TXT file in your Kermit 95 directory. - Frank From news@columbia.edu Wed Apr 9 20:10:55 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA16352 for ; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 20:10:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA23661 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 20:10:54 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.eecs.umich.edu!news.radio.cz!newsbastard.radio.cz!news.radio.cz!CESspool!nntp.uio.no!newsfeeds.sol.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!ais.net!uunet!in3.uu.net!206.63.63.70!nwnews.wa.com!nwfocus.wa.com!camco!camco.celestial.com!geo From: geo@camco.celestial.com (George Clute) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Calling Scripts SCO Unix Date: 9 Apr 1997 23:47:18 GMT Organization: Celestial Software, Mercer Island, WA Lines: 8 Message-ID: <5ih9q6$okr$1@camco.celestial.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: camco.celestial.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6883 I'm trying to write a script for C-Kermit, however after the modems negotiate the call ends. After rtfm I find not examples of scripts. Could someone post an executable script for C-Kermit 5A(190) 4 Oct 94 for SCO OSR 5.0 Thanks in advance... geo@celestial.com From news@columbia.edu Thu Apr 10 07:31:53 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA13877 for ; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 07:31:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA26510 for kermit.misc@watsun; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 07:31:50 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!fu-berlin.de!unlisys!blackbush.xlink.net!srichard From: srichard@xlink67.xlink.net (Sabine Richard-Schneider) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Hangup without killing device Date: 10 Apr 1997 11:30:17 GMT Organization: NTG/Xlink Freiheit verbindet. Weltweit! Lines: 9 Message-ID: Reply-To: srichard@xlink.net NNTP-Posting-Host: xlink67.xlink.net X-Newsreader: slrn (0.9.3.1 UNIX) Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6884 Hi everybody! I would like to know how to hang up kermit without killing the connections. That means to use kermit only as a dialer to build up a slip connection. Background: I log in at a computer who calls me back to build up a slip connection (my system is aix 3.2.5) After teh second connect I nedd kermit to terminate without clearing the device. Is that possible? Sabine From news@columbia.edu Thu Apr 10 12:32:11 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA02192 for ; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 12:32:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA10947 for kermit.misc@watsun; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 12:32:10 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Hangup without killing device Date: 10 Apr 1997 16:32:09 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 50 Message-ID: <5ij4m9$gjk$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6885 In article , Sabine Richard-Schneider wrote: : I would like to know how to hang up kermit without killing the connections. : That means to use kermit only as a dialer to build up a slip connection. : : Background: I log in at a computer who calls me back to build up a slip : connection (my system is aix 3.2.5) After teh second connect I nedd kermit : to terminate without clearing the device. Is that possible? : >From the Kermit FAQ: http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/faq.html ftp://kermit.columbia.edu/kermit/faq.txt 27 HOW CAN I EXIT FROM C-KERMIT WITHOUT HANGING UP? Many people want to be able to make a dialout connection with UNIX C-Kermit, but then use some other software on the connection that C-Kermit made. They quickly find that when they exit from C-Kermit, that the connection is gone before they can start the other application. It is a fundamental property of UNIX that when a process exits, then every file that was opened by that process is automatically closed by UNIX. Closing a terminal device (such as a dialout tty device) hangs it up (by turning off the DTR signal). There is nothing the process can do about it. However, many workarounds are possible. Here are just a few: - Tell C-Kermit to SET MODEM HANGUP-METHOD RS232, and then configure your modem to ignore DTR (not recommended). - Read about the REDIRECT command in the second edition of Using C-Kermit. - Find out the file descriptor of the open device (it is given by C-Kermit's \v(ttyfd) variable) and then run ("!") your other program from the C-Kermit prompt, feeding it the file descriptor, e.g. through shell redirection or a command line option (the method depends on the other program, the capabilities of the shell, etc). - After Kermit makes the connection, type "show comm" to find out the filename of the lock file. Then suspend Kermit, delete the lock file, then start the other program and tell it to open the same tty device. Note that you can also tell C-Kermit to use a communications file descriptor created by another process; see the command-line options list in "Using C-Kermit", 2nd edition. - Frank From news@columbia.edu Fri Apr 11 13:54:46 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA16129 for ; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 13:54:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA07836 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 13:54:45 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!insync!news.io.com!not-for-mail From: Archer Graphics Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: [HELP NEEDED] Using external protocols with SCO XENIX Date: 11 Apr 1997 17:40:29 GMT Organization: Illuminati Online Lines: 10 Message-ID: <5ilt2d$r4n$1@nntp-3.io.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: pentagon.io.com X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 unoff BETA release 970127] Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6886 I am trying to get external protocols to work on the latest version of Kermit (pre)compiled for SCO Xenix/386, but everytime I enter set protocol zmodem, I get "?Sorry, REDIRECT capability required for external protocols." Normally Kermit puts keywords in ALL CAPS, but if REDIRECT is a keyword, I can find no mention of it. -- Tiggers don't jump, they bounce! From news@columbia.edu Fri Apr 11 14:09:55 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA19360 for ; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 14:09:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA08225 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 14:09:50 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: [HELP NEEDED] Using external protocols with SCO XENIX Date: 11 Apr 1997 18:09:48 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 26 Message-ID: <5ilupc$r6r$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <5ilt2d$r4n$1@nntp-3.io.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6887 In article <5ilt2d$r4n$1@nntp-3.io.com>, Archer Graphics wrote: : I am trying to get external protocols to work on the latest version of : Kermit (pre)compiled for SCO Xenix/386, but everytime I enter : set protocol zmodem, I get : "?Sorry, REDIRECT capability required for external protocols." : : Normally Kermit puts keywords in ALL CAPS, but if REDIRECT is a keyword, I : can find no mention of it. : That's because it is not a command in the Xenix version of C-Kermit 6.0. This is either because the underlying APIs (the wait() system call and the header file with the symbols WIFEXITED and WEXITSTATUS defined in it) are not there or else because we are ignorant of them (we don't have any Xenix systems in-house, nor do we have Telnet/FTP access to any for development and testing). If you have a Xenix development system, try building from source code and add -DCK_REDIR to the CFLAGS. If it compiles without complaint, then it should work *if* your version of sz/rz allows its standard i/o to be redirected. If you don't have a Xenix development system, maybe someone else out there who does will be willing to give it a shot and report back. - Frank From news@columbia.edu Sun Apr 13 11:47:08 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA04776 for ; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 11:47:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA22125 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 11:47:05 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.eecs.umich.edu!news.radio.cz!newsbastard.radio.cz!news.radio.cz!CESspool!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!blackbush.xlink.net!pegasus.PFM-Mainz.de!mainz.mz.rhein-main.de!Illuminatus.MZ.Rhein-Main.DE!not-for-mail From: Volker Schmidt Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Anyone w/ a script f. german Cityruf? Date: 13 Apr 1997 16:19:15 +0200 Organization: IN - Rhein-Main.DE (Wiesbaden) Lines: 12 Message-ID: <5iqq13$rg0$1@Illuminatus.MZ.Rhein-Main.DE> NNTP-Posting-Host: illuminatus.mz.rhein-main.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 unoff BETA 970409; i586 Linux 2.0.30] Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6888 Hi! Just before I reinvent the wheel... Anyone out here with a kermit script for sending messages to the german paging service "Cityruf"? tschö, --volker -- PGP key: Subject: GET 8F679A35 UNIX is friendly, but it chooses it's friends! From news@columbia.edu Sun Apr 13 16:30:47 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA09460 for ; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 16:30:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA05432 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 16:30:44 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Anyone w/ a script f. german Cityruf? Date: 13 Apr 1997 20:30:36 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 21 Message-ID: <5irfpc$4g2$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <5iqq13$rg0$1@Illuminatus.MZ.Rhein-Main.DE> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6889 In article <5iqq13$rg0$1@Illuminatus.MZ.Rhein-Main.DE>, Volker Schmidt wrote: : Just before I reinvent the wheel... Anyone out here with a kermit : script for sending messages to the german paging service : "Cityruf"? : If Cityruf uses Telocator Alphanumeric Protocol (TAP), then you can use the TAP paging script that comes with C-Kermit 6.0: http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/ck60.html If it is a simple numeric paging service, then it's even easier. See the Kermit FAQ about how to send pages: http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/faq.html ftp://kermit.columbia.edu/kermit/faq.txt If it is something new and different, then of course we would like to know about it so we can help others who have the same question. - Frank From news@columbia.edu Sun Apr 13 17:28:22 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA18078 for ; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 17:28:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA08002 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 17:28:20 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Announcing MS-DOS Kermit 3.15 Beta 19 Date: 13 Apr 1997 21:28:14 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 21 Message-ID: <5irj5e$6b9$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6890 The changes in this Beta address this weekend's change in the definition of DHCP protocol, from RFC1541 to the new RFCs 2131 and 2133. MS-DOS Kermit 3.15 Beta 19 "complies" with all of them, trying the new method first and if that fails, trying the original (now incompatible) method second. SHOW COMMUNICATIONS now distinguishes DHCP from BOOTP. Thanks to Joe D for keeping MS-DOS Kermit in compliance with the ever increasing number of items with which we all must comply. Beta 19 is at: ftp://kermit.columbia.edu/kermit/test/bin/msk315.zip As with the previous Betas, download this one into your regular MS-DOS Kermit 3.14 directory and unzip it. It makes MSK315.EXE and MSK315.DOC files which do not conflict with your current installation. To test, just run MSK315 instead of KERMIT. Send reports to kermit-support@columbia.edu. - Frank From news@columbia.edu Mon Apr 14 20:19:54 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA29544 for ; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 20:19:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA03872 for kermit.misc@watsun; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 20:19:53 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!sprint!news-dc-26.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-east.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-atl-21.sprintlink.net!news.gol.com!not-for-mail From: dkanagy@gol.com (Dan Kanagy) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Kermit/2 and Japanese Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 08:18:59 +0900 Organization: WordWise Inc., Tokyo, Japan Lines: 24 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: tc-7-183.tokyo.gol.com Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6891 I've been happily using C-Kermit 5A(191) under Japanese OS/2 for several years (I even bought the book) and have recently installed Kermit/2. Unfortunately, while I was able to read Japanese text when running C-Kermit 5A(191) in an OS/2 window, I no longer seem to be able to do so with Kermit/2. With C-Kermit 5A(191), setting the terminal to ANSI and the terminal code-page to 932 allowed me to read and write Japanese text. This, however, doesn't seem to work with Kermit/2. I've tried playing with the dialer settings and with scripts. I've even confirmed through "show term" that the terminal is set to ANSI and the code-page to 932. But still no Japanese. In looking through the Kermit/2 documentation, it seems that I may need to run Kermit/2 in a full screen to display Japanese. This I haven't tried, however, since this isn't the solution I want. I would like to display Japanese in a window as I was able to with C-Kermit 5A(191). Is there anything obvious that I am doing wrong? Or has this feature of C-Kermit 5A(191) been lost by Kermit/2? Thanks for any help. -- _____________________________________________________________________________ Dan Kanagy finger for PGP public key dkanagy@gol.com Tokyo, Japan wordwise@netcom.com From news@columbia.edu Tue Apr 15 00:55:14 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA10645 for ; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 00:55:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA16236 for kermit.misc@watsun; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 00:55:12 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!jaltman From: jaltman@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Jeffrey Altman) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Kermit/2 and Japanese Date: 15 Apr 1997 04:55:07 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 45 Message-ID: <5iv1nb$t13$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: Reply-To: kermit-support@columbia.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6892 In article , Dan Kanagy wrote: : I've been happily using C-Kermit 5A(191) under Japanese OS/2 for : several years (I even bought the book) and have recently installed : Kermit/2. Unfortunately, while I was able to read Japanese text when : running C-Kermit 5A(191) in an OS/2 window, I no longer seem to be : able to do so with Kermit/2. With C-Kermit 5A(191), setting the : terminal to ANSI and the terminal code-page to 932 allowed me to read : and write Japanese text. This, however, doesn't seem to work with : Kermit/2. I've tried playing with the dialer settings and with : scripts. I've even confirmed through "show term" that the terminal is : set to ANSI and the code-page to 932. But still no Japanese. : : In looking through the Kermit/2 documentation, it seems that I may : need to run Kermit/2 in a full screen to display Japanese. This I : haven't tried, however, since this isn't the solution I want. I would : like to display Japanese in a window as I was able to with C-Kermit : 5A(191). Is there anything obvious that I am doing wrong? Or has : this feature of C-Kermit 5A(191) been lost by Kermit/2? : : Thanks for any help. Are you sure that you were using 5A(191) and not 5A(190)? There were no changes to the display mechanisms that I can think of that would have affected the ability to view Japanese text with K/2. In fact, I am surprise that you would be able to view it with 5a(191). 5a(191) was the first version of OS/2 C-Kermit to use the virtual screen update mechanism which I would assume would preclude viewing code page 932 properly since neither C-Kermit nor K/2 have support for double byte character sets. One change in K/2 is that all data is stored internally as Unicode. I would check to make sure that your SET TERM REMOTE-CHARACTER-SET is equal to your SET TERM LOCAL-CHARACTER-SET in both the dialer and while you are online. Please contact kermit-support directly for further assistance in this matter. Jeffrey Altman * Sr.Software Designer * Kermit-95 for Win32 and OS/2 The Kermit Project * Columbia University 612 West 115th St #716 * New York, NY * 10025 * (212) 854-1344 http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/k95.html * kermit-support@columbia.edu From news@columbia.edu Wed Apr 16 16:04:47 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA18741 for ; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 16:04:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA04241 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 16:04:46 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!news.indiana.edu!chi-news.cic.net!newsrelay.netins.net!news.ececs.uc.edu!newsfeeds.sol.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!sprint!uunet!in2.uu.net!202.82.1.1!bull.hkstar.net!hkstar2!news From: "Eric Kudela" Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Has anyone ever used Kermit under PC-MOS operating system ? Date: 16 Apr 1997 02:34:18 GMT Organization: Tai Ping Lines: 30 Message-ID: <01bc4a0f$4fdbc8e0$LocalHost@compaq---eku> NNTP-Posting-Host: uranus193.hkstar.com X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6894 I am using Kermit under the PC-MOS operating system, v 5.01 (PC-MOS is a product of T.S.L.). PC-MOS is a multitasking, DOS compatible operating system. I experience several problems : - using MS-Kermit v 3.14, the complete system slows down dramatically if Kermit is used on a task different from the basic task (task 0). With MS-Kermit v 3.13, this problem doesn't happen. But with MS-Kermit v 3.13, we sometimes have "divide by zero" errors, which do not happen with MS-Kermit v 3.14. - I am loosing some lost characters (sent and received) sometimes - most important, under conditions which are still quite obscure, the PC-MOS system crashes ("dead" system) during the processing of a script by Kermit. The system "death" seems to coincide with the processing of a 'get' command. The Kermit support provided me some useful information, but they never heard about PC-MOS. So : if anyone has ever tried using MS-Kermit with PC-MOS, I would be very grateful for any information. Or am I the only one in the world to use Kermit with PC-MOS ??? Thanks. Eric. From news@columbia.edu Thu Apr 17 14:08:23 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA20501 for ; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 14:08:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA11520 for kermit.misc@watsun; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 14:08:22 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!news.indiana.edu!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!ais.net!ix.netcom.com!enews.sgi.com!news.corp.sgi.com!news.sgi.com!pixie.mcom.com!news From: Kathy Beeskow Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: z-modem, file transfer Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 10:02:35 +0000 Organization: Netscape Communications Lines: 23 Message-ID: <3354A3BB.CE791FF1@netscape.com> Reply-To: kbeeskow@netscape.com NNTP-Posting-Host: kbeeskow.mcom.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b3 [en] (Win95; I) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6895 I'm trying to use Kermit to receive a file from my company's bank. I get into Kermit and enter >set modem type usrobotics >set line /dev/ttyc >dial 9,xxxxxxx The bank prompts me to enter a password which I do. The bank tell me to be ready to receive. But then while the bank is trying to send me the file it times out. Do I have to enter 'receive' in the command prompts before I dial out? If you have any insights I would greatly appreciate the feedback. Thanks, Kathy -- Kathy Beeskow Netscape Communications (415) 937-2326 kbeeskow@netscape.com From news@columbia.edu Thu Apr 17 16:57:43 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA27615 for ; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 16:57:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA22096 for kermit.misc@watsun; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 16:57:41 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: z-modem, file transfer Date: 17 Apr 1997 20:57:31 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 46 Message-ID: <5j62rr$f97$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <3354A3BB.CE791FF1@netscape.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6896 In article <3354A3BB.CE791FF1@netscape.com>, Kathy Beeskow wrote: : I'm trying to use Kermit to receive a file from my company's bank. : : I get into Kermit and enter : >set modem type usrobotics : >set line /dev/ttyc : >dial 9,xxxxxxx : So it looks like you are using C-Kermit 6.0 on UNIX, which is current. : The bank prompts me to enter a password which I do. : The bank tell me to be ready to receive. : But then while the bank is trying to send me the file it times out. : : Do I have to enter 'receive' in the command prompts before I dial out? : No, not *before* you dial out. As explained in the manual, "Using C-Kermit", you have two choices for how to handle downloads -- manual and automatic: 1. Escape back to the prompt by typing Ctrl-Backslash and then the letter C, and then give a RECEIVE command. Or: 2. Before making the connection, tell C-Kermit to: set terminal autodownload and then it detects that the other side has started a download and automatically go into receive mode. : If you have any insights I would greatly appreciate the feedback. : You can find out about the manual and how to get it at: http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/ck60.html All of this assumes you are using Kermit protocol, not Zmodem protocol as indicated in the subject of your posting. If you need to use Zmodem protocol, all the same advice applies, except you must find and configure a Zmodem file-transfer program as an external protocol to C-Kermit. This is explained in Chapter 14 of the manual (the new second edition; this material is not in the first edition). - Frank From news@columbia.edu Thu Apr 17 17:03:33 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA28994 for ; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 17:03:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA22420 for kermit.misc@watsun; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 17:03:21 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-out.communique.net!communique!news.ultranet.com!zombie.ncsc.mil!arlnews!news.monroe.army.mil!wrdiss1.robins.af.mil!usenet From: storyr@ewir-wr.robins.af.mil Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp.apps,comp.sys.hp.hpux,comp.sys.hp.misc,comp.protocols.kermit.misc,comp.sys.hp.hardware,comp.protocols.misc Subject: help: File Xfer, PC & HP1000 ? Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 04:08:54 -0400 Organization: robins afb Lines: 9 Message-ID: <3355DA96.15E6@ewir-wr.robins.af.mil> NNTP-Posting-Host: lnpcjn.robins.af.mil Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.sys.hp.apps:7676 comp.sys.hp.hpux:65328 comp.sys.hp.misc:13654 comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6897 comp.sys.hp.hardware:27533 comp.protocols.misc:6513 Does anyone know of a good method of transfering files between a PC and an HP1000 E/F series computer running RTE-6/VM rev 2310 (pre-CI)? I have tried Advancelink and Reflection but they are slow and only work with ASCII files since it's just screen logging. I also looked at a version of KERMIT for RTE-6 from Columbia's KERMIT ftp site but it's for newer revs of RTE (with CI). I heard there may be a version of Xmodem that will work but can't find any info. Our HP's have DS1000 cards and 12972C 8 channel mux cards. Any info would be appreciated. Thanks in advance. From news@columbia.edu Thu Apr 17 19:10:35 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA23467 for ; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 19:10:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA28345 for kermit.misc@watsun; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 19:10:34 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!sprint!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-feed2.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.indigo.ie!not-for-mail From: offline@INDIGO.IE (alan) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: carrier detect signal ? Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 10:42:13 GMT Organization: Indigo Lines: 2 Message-ID: <3355fe5a.2510622@NEWS.INDIGO.IE> NNTP-Posting-Host: ts09-15.dublin.indigo.ie X-Newsreader: Forte Agent .99e/32.227 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6898 Is it possible to use ms kermit to issue a carrier detect signal somehow? From news@columbia.edu Thu Apr 17 19:18:19 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA24757 for ; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 19:18:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA28627 for kermit.misc@watsun; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 19:18:18 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: carrier detect signal ? Date: 17 Apr 1997 23:18:12 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 16 Message-ID: <5j6b3k$nv8$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <3355fe5a.2510622@NEWS.INDIGO.IE> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6899 In article <3355fe5a.2510622@NEWS.INDIGO.IE>, alan wrote: : Is it possible to use ms kermit to issue a carrier detect signal : somehow? : Kermit runs on a computer. CD is a signal from the modem TO the computer. The computer can't issue it. You can force your MODEM to issue it if you want to, but the exact method depends on your modem. If it can be done by command, then you can have MS-DOS Kermit send this command to your modem. The command for this might be something like AT&C0. You can also make Kermit ignore the CD signal if you want to -- in fact, it does so by default. The command is SET CARRIER { ON, OFF }. This only affects how Kermit reacts to the CD signal from the modem -- it does not affect the signal itself. - Frank From news@columbia.edu Fri Apr 18 04:27:57 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA16208 for ; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 04:27:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA20922 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 04:27:54 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!EU.net!news2.EUnet.fr!Belgium.EU.net!news From: Dirk Van den Eynde Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Kermit - NT.4.0 <-> MVS Date: 18 Apr 1997 08:11:50 GMT Organization: SD Lines: 13 Message-ID: <5j7ac6$7vj@news1.Belgium.EU.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: idialup003.antwerp.eunet.be Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (Windows; I; 16bit) To: Dirk.Vandeneynde@sd.be Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6900 A novice question: Can I use Kermit to transfer files to and from Windows NT.4.0 and IBM Mainframe MVS (there is a TCP/IP connection in place). What do I need on NT and on MVS? Can I schedule the start of the filetransfer by CA-Unicenter on the NT machine (so that an incoming file, from a remote PC, in a dedicated directory is automatically send to the mainframe)? Dirk Van den Eynde From news@columbia.edu Fri Apr 18 05:09:12 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA21417 for ; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 05:09:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA23034 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 05:09:07 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!arclight.uoregon.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-peer.sprintlink.net!sprint!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!ratty.wolfe.net!usenet From: Baus Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Is it possible to... with kermit Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 12:37:28 -0700 Organization: Wolfe Internet Access, L.L.C. Lines: 16 Message-ID: <3353D8F8.2328@WolfeNet.Com> NNTP-Posting-Host: sea-ts5-p14.wolfenet.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Win16; I) Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6901 Looking to see if something can be done with Kermit. I have an application that uses kermit 3.14 for remote communications. I would like to find out if it is possible, I assume through a Windows version of Kermit, to have multiple remote users download at the same time to the same PC. The ideal situation would be for users to call one number and that number forward to other lines if busy, without the user knowing, and then have a seperate copy of the download application that calls Kermit for each phone line. Would like the application to be in Visual Basic. I am assuming I could keep adding phone lines and copies of the application as long as I add RAM? Anyone out there doing something similiar? Any thoughts? Thanks, Steve From news@columbia.edu Fri Apr 18 10:22:37 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA15727 for ; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 10:22:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA00561 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 10:22:35 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Is it possible to... with kermit Date: 18 Apr 1997 14:22:29 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 42 Message-ID: <5j8035$2bk$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <3353D8F8.2328@WolfeNet.Com> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6902 In article <3353D8F8.2328@WolfeNet.Com>, Baus wrote: : Looking to see if something can be done with Kermit. : : I have an application that uses kermit 3.14 for remote communications. I : would like to find out if it is possible, I assume through a Windows : version of Kermit, to have multiple remote users download at the same : time to the same PC. : In theory it is possible on TCP/IP connections, as many as the PC can handle at once. On serial connections, one simultaneous session per port. : The ideal situation would be for users to call one : number and that number forward to other lines if busy, without the user : knowing, and then have a seperate copy of the download application that : calls Kermit for each phone line. : Hunt groups are a service of your telephone company, not of your PC or Kermit. This is, of course, how modem pools work. : Would like the application to be in Visual Basic. I am assuming I could : keep adding phone lines and copies of the application as long as I add RAM? : The standard method of embedding Kermit protocol in another application is to license the appropriate Kermit software from the Kermit Project and invoke it with command-line arguments, usually indicating the name of a command (script) file to be executed. Kermit itself handles all the communication functions, and returns a code indicating success or failure. Of course it can also keep various sorts of logs, etc. You didn't say which version of Windows you have. If it is Windows 95 or NT, then the Kermit program for that platform includes a "host mode" that allows users to dial or Telnet in to your computer, log in with a password, and see a simple menu that gives them file transfer and management access to a restricted set of directories. You can read about it at: http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/k95host.html And the Kermit project in general at: http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/ - Frank From news@columbia.edu Fri Apr 18 10:29:52 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA17521 for ; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 10:29:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA00849 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 10:29:51 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Kermit - NT.4.0 <-> MVS Date: 18 Apr 1997 14:29:46 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 35 Message-ID: <5j80gq$2lk$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <5j7ac6$7vj@news1.Belgium.EU.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6903 In article <5j7ac6$7vj@news1.Belgium.EU.net>, Dirk Van den Eynde wrote: : Can I use Kermit to transfer files to and from Windows NT.4.0 and IBM : Mainframe MVS (there is a TCP/IP connection in place). : Yes. : What do I need on NT and on MVS? : On Windows NT you need Kermit 95: http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/k95.html It is available for Intel, Alpha, and PowerPC NT platforms. For MVS you need IBM Mainframe Kermit: http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/ibm370.html : Can I schedule the start of the filetransfer by CA-Unicenter on the NT : machine (so that an incoming file, from a remote PC, in a dedicated : directory is automatically send to the mainframe)? : If CA-Unicenter has batch and scheduling capabilities, yes. Kermit 95 is fully scriptable. Just about anything you can do by hand can be scripted for unattended operation. A word of caution, however: Kermit 95 is not (yet) a tn3270 client, so you can only log in to MVS in linemode, assuming your TCP/IP connection is direct to MVS. If, however, your TCP/IP connection is to a 3270 gateway (such as, for example, a Cisco terminal server), then you can have 3270 sessions that way. You can also use Kermit 95 to make serial connections to any kind of 3270 protocol converter, such as the IBM 7171, and conduct your sessions that way. - Frank From news@columbia.edu Fri Apr 18 18:39:54 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA05165 for ; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 18:39:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA24319 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 18:39:42 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.eecs.umich.edu!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!usc!sdd.hp.com!hpscit.sc.hp.com!hpax!not-for-mail From: Alan Sanderson 408 447-3859 Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp.apps,comp.sys.hp.hpux,comp.sys.hp.misc,comp.protocols.kermit.misc,comp.sys.hp.hardware,comp.protocols.misc Subject: Re: help: File Xfer, PC & HP1000 ? Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 14:18:21 -0700 Organization: HP Americas Integration Center Lines: 25 Message-ID: <3357E51D.5102@cup.hp.com.remove> References: <3355DA96.15E6@ewir-wr.robins.af.mil> Reply-To: Alan_Sanderson@hp.com.remove NNTP-Posting-Host: hpamscm.cup.hp.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win16; I) Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.sys.hp.apps:7699 comp.sys.hp.hpux:65419 comp.sys.hp.misc:13678 comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6904 comp.sys.hp.hardware:27591 comp.protocols.misc:6519 storyr@ewir-wr.robins.af.mil wrote: > > Does anyone know of a good method of transfering files between a PC > and an HP1000 E/F series computer running RTE-6/VM rev 2310 (pre-CI)? > I have tried Advancelink and Reflection but they are slow and only work > with ASCII files since it's just screen logging. I also looked at a > version of KERMIT for RTE-6 from Columbia's KERMIT ftp site but it's for > newer revs of RTE (with CI). I heard there may be a version of Xmodem > that > will work but can't find any info. Our HP's have DS1000 cards and 12972C > 8 channel mux cards. Any info would be appreciated. Thanks in advance. Reflection 7 had a file transfer utility that uploaded an application to the 1000, and allowed files to be transferred between the 1000 and the PC. This did actual file transfer, not just screen logging. I don't have the documentation here any more, but we used it a lot. If you are using only one port on the serial mux, you can increase the baud rate for your file transfers. Check to see if there is a Kermit for RTE-IVB, but I don't know why it should make a difference whether it is pre-CI or not. CI is the user shell. RTE-6 should still support all the same system calls. Try compiling and loading Kermit. If it doesn't work, the changes should be minor. From news@columbia.edu Sat Apr 19 01:51:23 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA08096 for ; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 01:51:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA12606 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 01:51:21 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.eecs.umich.edu!news.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cs.utexas.edu!news.cs.utah.edu!cc.usu.edu!jrd From: jrd@cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: carrier detect signal ? Message-ID: <1997Apr18.090020.97103@cc.usu.edu> Date: 18 Apr 97 09:00:20 MDT References: <3355fe5a.2510622@NEWS.INDIGO.IE> Organization: Utah State University Lines: 8 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6905 In article <3355fe5a.2510622@NEWS.INDIGO.IE>, offline@INDIGO.IE (alan) writes: > Is it possible to use ms kermit to issue a carrier detect signal > somehow? ----------- Carrier Detect is a signal FROM the modem TO the computer, never the other way around (electrically the direction can't be reversed). What is it you are really trying to accomplish? Joe D. From news@columbia.edu Sat Apr 19 16:51:10 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA13811 for ; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 16:51:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA23375 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 16:51:08 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!news-xfer.cybernet.dk!news.onramp.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-fw-22.sprintlink.net!news.sover.net!not-for-mail From: edlincol@sover.net (Ed Lincoln) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: site info Date: Sat, 19 Apr 1997 20:16:48 GMT Organization: Indoor Air Quality Testing Lines: 3 Message-ID: <5jb8m9$95e$1@thrush.sover.net> Reply-To: edlincol@sover.net NNTP-Posting-Host: usr0a13.rut.sover.net X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6906 Is this the best site for the kermit group? (For help) From news@columbia.edu Sat Apr 19 16:56:11 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA14431 for ; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 16:56:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA23589 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 16:56:09 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: site info Date: 19 Apr 1997 20:56:06 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 6 Message-ID: <5jbbh6$fq5$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <5jb8m9$95e$1@thrush.sover.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6907 In article <5jb8m9$95e$1@thrush.sover.net>, Ed Lincoln wrote: : Is this the best site for the kermit group? : (For help) : Yes. From news@columbia.edu Sat Apr 19 17:49:33 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA23065 for ; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 17:49:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA25887 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 17:49:31 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.eecs.umich.edu!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!sprint!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-pen-14.sprintlink.net!news.sover.net!not-for-mail From: edlincol@sover.net (Ed Lincoln) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: site info Date: Sat, 19 Apr 1997 20:18:44 GMT Organization: Indoor Air Quality Testing Lines: 7 Message-ID: <5jb8pt$95e$2@thrush.sover.net> References: <5jb8m9$95e$1@thrush.sover.net> Reply-To: edlincol@sover.net NNTP-Posting-Host: usr0a13.rut.sover.net X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6908 edlincol@sover.net (Ed Lincoln) wrote: >Is this the best site for the kermit group? >(For help) Win48 emu.......???? From news@columbia.edu Sat Apr 19 17:53:55 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA23597 for ; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 17:53:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA26125 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 17:53:53 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: site info Date: 19 Apr 1997 21:53:51 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 14 Message-ID: <5jbetf$iv5$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <5jb8m9$95e$1@thrush.sover.net> <5jb8pt$95e$2@thrush.sover.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6909 In article <5jb8pt$95e$2@thrush.sover.net>, Ed Lincoln wrote: : edlincol@sover.net (Ed Lincoln) wrote: : : >Is this the best site for the kermit group? : >(For help) : Win48 emu.......???? : Sorry, I don't understand the question. Could phrase it in a way that we might be able to answer? What kind of computer and OS do you have, and what do you want to do with it that you think Kermit can help you with? From news@columbia.edu Sat Apr 19 20:40:37 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA18434 for ; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 20:40:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA03971 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 20:40:36 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.panix.com!not-for-mail From: eravin@panix.com (Ed Ravin) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Kermit - NT.4.0 <-> MVS Date: 19 Apr 1997 20:40:07 -0400 Organization: All Watched Over by Machines of Loving Grace Lines: 14 Message-ID: <5jbol7$dan@panix.com> References: <5j7ac6$7vj@news1.Belgium.EU.net> <5j80gq$2lk$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: panix.com X-Newsposter: Pnews 4.0-test50 (13 Dec 96) Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6910 >From somewhere in cyberspace, fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) said: >... You can also use Kermit 95 to make serial connections to >any kind of 3270 protocol converter, such as the IBM 7171, and conduct your >sessions that way. If your connection to the MVS host is through a serial link, you can also use good old MS-DOS Kermit, which runs under NT in the DOS window (at least it does so for me, NT 4.0 no service packs). -- Ed Ravin |If I were not a little mad and generally silly eravin@panix.com|I should give you my advice upon the subject, willy-nilly; |I should show you in a moment how to grapple with the question |And you'd really be astonished at the force of my suggestion. From news@columbia.edu Sun Apr 20 12:15:35 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA12175 for ; Sun, 20 Apr 1997 12:15:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA01163 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sun, 20 Apr 1997 12:15:34 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Kermit - NT.4.0 <-> MVS Date: 20 Apr 1997 16:15:34 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 29 Message-ID: <5jdff6$fmo$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <5j7ac6$7vj@news1.Belgium.EU.net> <5j80gq$2lk$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> <5jbol7$dan@panix.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6913 In article <5jbol7$dan@panix.com>, Ed Ravin wrote: : From somewhere in cyberspace, fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) said : >... You can also use Kermit 95 to make serial connections to : >any kind of 3270 protocol converter, such as the IBM 7171, and conduct your : >sessions that way. : : If your connection to the MVS host is through a serial link, you can also : use good old MS-DOS Kermit, which runs under NT in the DOS window (at least : it does so for me, NT 4.0 no service packs). : It might or might not, but we don't support or recommend it because (a) it was not written for Windows 95 or NT; (b) we have our hands full supporting it on the platforms for which it *was* written; (c) since it is not a native NT application, it interferes with NT's otherwise smooth multitasking; and (d) it does not understand long filenames or other features of NT that are not also in DOS. In other words, it just plain might not work, or might not work the way you expect, and if it doesn't there is nothing we can do about it. Kermit 95 is for Windows NT, Windows 95, and OS/2: http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/k95.html MS-DOS Kermit is for DOS and Windows 3.11 and earlier: http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/mskermit.html - Frank From news@columbia.edu Sun Apr 20 19:01:57 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA21110 for ; Sun, 20 Apr 1997 19:01:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA20826 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sun, 20 Apr 1997 19:01:56 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!news.msfc.nasa.gov!europa.clark.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!feed1.news.erols.com!tezcat!hobar From: hobar@huitzilo.tezcat.com (Jail Bait) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Kermit 3.14 problems over TCPIP Date: 20 Apr 1997 23:01:19 GMT Organization: Tezcat.COM - Specialists in human interconnectivity. Lines: 17 Message-ID: References: <01bc51a4$040dc930$3bcf60cf@patrice> NNTP-Posting-Host: huitzilo.tezcat.com X-Newsreader: slrn (0.9.3.2 UNIX) Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6914 In article <01bc51a4$040dc930$3bcf60cf@patrice>, Patrice Levesque wrote: >Hi, > >I will appreciate if somebody can help me concerning a problem with Kermit >3.14. > >We are using MS-Kermit 3.14 over the network via TCP/IP with Windows >Workgroup 3.11. It is working well but when we switch Kermit 3.14 (in a DOS >Windows) in background, it will eventually disconnect from the server. The >server is an Alpha 2100 with Open VMS 6.2. > It's probably VMS logging you out for being idle. -- -Ken From news@columbia.edu Sun Apr 20 19:44:53 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA28654 for ; Sun, 20 Apr 1997 19:44:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA21822 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sun, 20 Apr 1997 19:44:52 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!spool.mu.edu!uwm.edu!cs.utexas.edu!howland.erols.net!newshub2.home.com!news.home.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newspeer.santaclara.agis.net!agis!nntp.mainstreet.net!bug.rahul.net!rahul.net!a2i!samba.rahul.net!rahul.net!a2i!jodell.a2i!jodell From: Jake Odell Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: problems with INPUT in 3.1.3/3.1.4 Date: 20 Apr 1997 19:07:10 GMT Organization: a2i network Lines: 82 Message-ID: <5jdpgu$n06@samba.rahul.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: waltz.rahul.net NNTP-Posting-User: jodell X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6915 Hi.. I have been working on a script to log on to a Wildcat bbs, and have encountered some problems using the INPUT script command. In my script, it seems that the INPUT that looks for the "What is your first name?" always terminates in a second or less never waiting for the expected string, even when specifying a timeout value of 15. I've made a temporary hack with a loop to finally capture the 'first name' prompt. The INPUT returns FAILURE which it seems that should only happen on a timeout without string match. Here is the script: log session set term type none set terminal apc off set count 10 clear input-buffer output atdt18005551212>\x0D wait 45 CD if failure forward dialfail :get1stname input 15 {first name?} if failure forward writebuf output myfirstname\x0D input 5 {last name?} output \x0D input 5 password? output mypassword\x0D [...file transfer stuff deleted for brevity...] :dialfail hangup close session quit :writebuf if count goto cont2 hangup close session :cont2 pause 1 goto get1stname ;**end of script** Here is what I see in session.log: Wildcat! for Win95/NT (c) 1995,96 Mustang Software, Inc. All Rights Reserved. Registration number: 01-9247. v5.00.437 (Mar 27 1997). Node: 2.  Connected at 19200 bps. DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD You have connected to node 2 on XYZ Info Corp This system is operating on Wildcat! v5 Please make use of your real name on this BBS DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD What is your first name? myfirstname What is your last name? Welcome MYFIRSTNAME. What is your password? ******* Main Menu: **** end of session log clip ******* I'm calling with a 486dx2/66 connected 'SET SPEED 38400' via 8250 uart to a V.34 modem. The connections are usually between 14400 and 24000. I have not observed any loss of data either from screens or in inbound zmodem file transfers (written to a network drive, btw). Could the higher interrupt rate needed to service the 8250 be interfering with the timing mechanism used by INPUT? (You're right, I'm to the point of grasping for straws) What trivial little detail am I missing? -- Jake Odell ** jake@pantheon.net ** jodell@rahul.net From news@columbia.edu Sun Apr 20 20:13:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA02734 for ; Sun, 20 Apr 1997 20:13:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA22449 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sun, 20 Apr 1997 20:13:14 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!news.uoregon.edu!hammer.uoregon.edu!xfer.kren.nm.kr!news-west.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!sprint!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!wesley.videotron.net!wagner.spc.videotron.ca!not-for-mail From: "Patrice Levesque" Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Kermit 3.14 problems over TCPIP Date: 20 Apr 1997 18:05:16 GMT Organization: SPC Lines: 19 Message-ID: <01bc51a4$040dc930$3bcf60cf@patrice> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp059.207.mreg.videotron.net X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6916 Hi, I will appreciate if somebody can help me concerning a problem with Kermit 3.14. We are using MS-Kermit 3.14 over the network via TCP/IP with Windows Workgroup 3.11. It is working well but when we switch Kermit 3.14 (in a DOS Windows) in background, it will eventually disconnect from the server. The server is an Alpha 2100 with Open VMS 6.2. I did changes in the KERMIT.PIF file but I'm not able to correct the problem. Any suggestions. Thanks in advance. Patrice Levesque techsup@groupe-optimum.com or plevesque@videotron.ca From news@columbia.edu Sun Apr 20 20:21:20 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA03958 for ; Sun, 20 Apr 1997 20:21:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA22747 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sun, 20 Apr 1997 20:21:19 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!news.msfc.nasa.gov!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!agate!news.Stanford.EDU!nntp.Stanford.EDU!oas.Stanford.EDU!stew From: stew@oas.Stanford.EDU (Stewart Levin) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Two bugs in C-Kermit 6.0? Date: 21 Apr 1997 00:15:31 GMT Organization: Stanford Exploration Project Lines: 63 Sender: Stewart.A.Levin@columbia.edu Message-ID: <5jebj3$leu$1@nntp.Stanford.EDU> NNTP-Posting-Host: oas.stanford.edu Summary: Modem variables ignored/changed Keywords: kermit modem C-kermit Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6917 Problem 1: As per the Using C-Kermit 2nd edition, I changed my modem initialization string so that the modem speaker would be turned off. The initialization file excerpt is: :CUSTOM ; Customization file ; Local Linux PC initialization - SAL 1/26/96 SET LINE /dev/modem SET SPEED 57600 SET MODEM TYPE TELEPATH SET MODEM COMMAND INIT-STRING \Freplace(\v(m_init),\{13},L1M0\{13}) SET MODEM SPEED-MATCHING OFF ; Use speed buffering. SET MODEM ERROR-CORRECTION ON ; Enable error-correction and compression. SET MODEM COMPRESSION ON SET RECEIVE PACKET-LENGTH 2048 SET DIAL DIRECTORY /usr/local/share/lib/kermit/ckermit.kdd SET DIAL AREA-CODE 972 SET DIAL CONNECT AUTO SET DIAL COUNTRY-CODE 1 SET DIAL METHOD PULSE SET TERMINAL AUTODOWNLOAD ON However, when I then "access" iany one of my dial-up services, them modem speaker remains on during dialing. Manually using the command OUTPUT \v(m_init) before I "access", turns it off. Problem 2: After "access"ing a dial-up service, the next "access" fails complaining that I have asked for an "unsupported speed: unknown". Repeating the "access" again works fine. Other info of possible relevance: I use the SCRIPT command to negotiate the service login sequence. Excerpted transcript: [/etc/X11/fvwm] C-Kermit>access work ... Connect successful, check mail, etc. then logout ... dalts001>exit [/etc/X11/fvwm] C-Kermit>access work A serial connection might still be active on /dev/modem. OK to close? y ?No keywords match - unknown unsupported speed: unknown [/etc/X11/fvwm] C-Kermit>access meptec Trying: xxxxxxxxxx... (Phone number omitted for security) Device: /dev/modem, modem: gateway-telepath, speed: 57600 Dial timeout: 45 seconds To cancel: type your interrupt character (normally Ctrl-C). --------------------------------------------------------------- Any patches or workarounds you can suggest? - Stew Levin stew @ sep.stanford.edu From news@columbia.edu Sun Apr 20 20:24:04 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA04279 for ; Sun, 20 Apr 1997 20:24:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA22781 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sun, 20 Apr 1997 20:24:04 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Kermit 3.14 problems over TCPIP Date: 21 Apr 1997 00:24:02 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 17 Message-ID: <5jec32$25g$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <01bc51a4$040dc930$3bcf60cf@patrice> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6918 In article <01bc51a4$040dc930$3bcf60cf@patrice>, Patrice Levesque wrote: : We are using MS-Kermit 3.14 over the network via TCP/IP with Windows : Workgroup 3.11. It is working well but when we switch Kermit 3.14 (in a DOS : Windows) in background, it will eventually disconnect from the server. The : server is an Alpha 2100 with Open VMS 6.2. : Short answer: Try version 3.15 Beta and see if it fixes the problem: ftp://kermit.columbia.edu/kermit/test/bin/msk315.zip Unzip it in your 3.14 directory, run MSK315 rather than KERMIT. If it doesn't make any difference, then send email with the specifics to our support address: kermit-support@columbia.edu - Frank From news@columbia.edu Mon Apr 21 00:53:45 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA10939 for ; Mon, 21 Apr 1997 00:53:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA29548 for kermit.misc@watsun; Mon, 21 Apr 1997 00:53:44 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!sprint!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!aanews.merit.net!monroe.lib.mi.us!monroe.lib.mi.us!jsizemor From: "Jason \"PsychoSy\" Sizemore" Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Faster downloading. Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 00:46:33 -0400 Organization: Monroe County Library System Lines: 38 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: monroe.lib.mi.us Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6919 These are the settings I use when using MS-Kermit 3.15 Beta. SET PORT 2 SET SPE 576 SET FLO RTS/CTS SET WIN 4 SET TERM BY 8 SET FI TY BIN SET SEN PACK 9024 SET REC PACK 9024 SET BLO 2 SET TERM AUTO ON SET TERM VT102 CONNECT Now, with these settings, I usually use the Public Lynx Acces at Sailor library in Maryland and perform my downloading from there. I get the 9024 packet length, but after the downloading, the percentage at the end is always in the teens. It takes about 30 minutes to download a 1MB file or program. My own ISP uses C-Kermit but the max packet size I can get from that is 2050. I download everything from Sailor Library, but I was just wondering if there's anything I can do to speed up the process on my end because apparently, Sailor's C-Kermit is configured to obey what my MS-Kermit tells it instead of using it's own default configuration. Also, on my own ISP, I don't get the "bar graph" when downloading. I always get this when downloading from Sailor. Why is that?? 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Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 11:19:37 GMT Organization: Indigo Lines: 33 Message-ID: <335b4d44.4121326@NEWS.INDIGO.IE> References: <3355fe5a.2510622@NEWS.INDIGO.IE> <5j6b3k$nv8$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: ts06-05.dublin.indigo.ie X-Newsreader: Forte Agent .99e/32.227 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6921 On 17 Apr 1997 23:18:12 GMT, fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) wrote: >In article <3355fe5a.2510622@NEWS.INDIGO.IE>, alan wrote: >: Is it possible to use ms kermit to issue a carrier detect signal >: somehow? >: >Kermit runs on a computer. CD is a signal from the modem TO the computer. >The computer can't issue it. You can force your MODEM to issue it if you >want to, but the exact method depends on your modem. If it can be done by >command, then you can have MS-DOS Kermit send this command to your modem. >The command for this might be something like AT&C0. > >You can also make Kermit ignore the CD signal if you want to -- in fact, >it does so by default. The command is SET CARRIER { ON, OFF }. This only >affects how Kermit reacts to the CD signal from the modem -- it does not >affect the signal itself. > >- Frank I am trying to get the bbs using a door with a terminal emulation to open a comm port and send out a carrier detect signal. The bbs is to be attached to an intellisystem so basically someone dialls into the bbs and I want it to act as a dumb terminal. To do this the intellisystem needs a carrier detect signal. When a person selects Intellisystem from the menu, the node shuts down and a terminal emulator kicks in. I want to write a batch file that will run a terminal emulation program . I also need to force a carrier detect signal so the intellisystem will spew back the necessary information. Do I have to get Pascal or something like this to write a program? Cheers, alan From news@columbia.edu Mon Apr 21 07:28:01 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA20227 for ; Mon, 21 Apr 1997 07:28:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA28707 for kermit.misc@watsun; Mon, 21 Apr 1997 07:28:00 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-feed2.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.indigo.ie!not-for-mail From: offline@INDIGO.IE (alan) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: carrier detect signal ? Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 11:20:02 GMT Organization: Indigo Lines: 22 Message-ID: <335b4d5b.4144566@NEWS.INDIGO.IE> References: <3355fe5a.2510622@NEWS.INDIGO.IE> <1997Apr18.090020.97103@cc.usu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: ts06-05.dublin.indigo.ie X-Newsreader: Forte Agent .99e/32.227 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6922 On 18 Apr 97 09:00:20 MDT, jrd@cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) wrote: >In article <3355fe5a.2510622@NEWS.INDIGO.IE>, offline@INDIGO.IE (alan) writes: >> Is it possible to use ms kermit to issue a carrier detect signal >> somehow? >----------- > Carrier Detect is a signal FROM the modem TO the computer, never >the other way around (electrically the direction can't be reversed). What >is it you are really trying to accomplish? > Joe D. I am trying to get the bbs using a door with a terminal emulation to open a comm port and send out a carrier detect signal. The bbs is to be attached to an intellisystem so basically someone dialls into the bbs and I want it to act as a dumb terminal. To do this the intellisystem needs a carrier detect signal. When a person selects Intellisystem from the menu, the node shuts down and a terminal emulator kicks in. I want to write a batch file that will run a terminal emulation program . I also need to force a carrier detect signal so the intellisystem will spew back the necessary information. Do I have to get Pascal or something like this to write a program? Cheers, alan From news@columbia.edu Mon Apr 21 11:32:24 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA02842 for ; Mon, 21 Apr 1997 11:32:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA04386 for kermit.misc@watsun; Mon, 21 Apr 1997 11:32:23 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Two bugs in C-Kermit 6.0? Date: 21 Apr 1997 15:32:14 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 95 Message-ID: <5jg19u$ijg$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <5jebj3$leu$1@nntp.Stanford.EDU> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Keywords: kermit modem C-kermit Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6923 In article <5jebj3$leu$1@nntp.Stanford.EDU>, Stewart Levin wrote: : : Problem 1: : : As per the Using C-Kermit 2nd edition, I changed my modem initialization : string so that the modem speaker would be turned off. The initialization : file excerpt is: : : :CUSTOM ; Customization file : : ; Local Linux PC initialization - SAL 1/26/96 : SET LINE /dev/modem : SET SPEED 57600 : You should put these commands *after* the SET MODEM TYPE command. : SET MODEM TYPE TELEPATH : SET MODEM COMMAND INIT-STRING \Freplace(\v(m_init),\{13},L1M0\{13}) : ... And so then "show modem" should show you: Init-string: ATQ0X4&N0&Y1#CLS=0S13=0S15=0S19=0L1M0\{13} Does it? And then if you "set dial display on" prior to dialing, does it show this string being sent to the modem? Does the modem say OK? : However, when I then "access" iany one of my dial-up services, them : modem speaker remains on during dialing. Manually using the command : : OUTPUT \v(m_init) : : before I "access", turns it off. : First of all, I think the "L1" is superfluous -- there is no need to turn down the speaker volume if you are also turning the speaker off. Modem command processors are notoriously delicate. If you send them strings that are too long, or you send them too fast, they are likely to become confused. In the Telepath case, the init string is already rather long, so instead of adding to it, try adding the speaker-off command to a shorter string, such as the pulse-dialing string (which you are using): set modem command pulse ATM0P\{13} and see if that doesn't do the trick. In the next release of C-Kermit, we will probably add separate modem commands and fields to control the speaker. : Problem 2: : : After "access"ing a dial-up service, the next "access" fails complaining : that I have asked for an "unsupported speed: unknown". Repeating the : "access" again works fine. Other info of possible relevance: I use : the SCRIPT command to negotiate the service login sequence. : We've never had a report like this before, and can't reproduce it here. Exactly what is your SCRIPT command (obviously you should X out the userid and password, etc, before sending them in, but keep them the same length). : Excerpted transcript: : : [/etc/X11/fvwm] C-Kermit>access work : : ... Connect successful, check mail, etc. then logout ... : : dalts001>exit : Now at this point does Kermit pop back to its prompt automatically, or did you escape back manually? What happens if you give a HANGUP command before your next "access work" command? : [/etc/X11/fvwm] C-Kermit>access work : A serial connection might still be active on /dev/modem. : OK to close? y : ?No keywords match - unknown : unsupported speed: unknown : [/etc/X11/fvwm] C-Kermit>access meptec : Trying: xxxxxxxxxx... (Phone number omitted for security) : Device: /dev/modem, modem: gateway-telepath, speed: 57600 : Dial timeout: 45 seconds : To cancel: type your interrupt character (normally Ctrl-C). : What would have happened here if you said "access work" rather than "access meptec"? : --------------------------------------------------------------- : Any patches or workarounds you can suggest? : Please get back to us with further details at kermit-support@columbia.edu. - Frank From news@columbia.edu Mon Apr 21 12:01:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA09135 for ; Mon, 21 Apr 1997 12:01:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA05115 for kermit.misc@watsun; Mon, 21 Apr 1997 12:01:15 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Faster downloading. Date: 21 Apr 1997 16:01:13 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 64 Message-ID: <5jg309$jjt$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6924 In article , Jason \"PsychoSy\" Sizemore wrote: : : These are the settings I use when using MS-Kermit 3.15 Beta. : : SET PORT 2 : SET SPE 576 : SET FLO RTS/CTS : SET WIN 4 : SET TERM BY 8 : SET FI TY BIN : SET SEN PACK 9024 : SET REC PACK 9024 : SET BLO 2 : SET TERM AUTO ON : SET TERM VT102 : CONNECT : : Now, with these settings, I usually use the Public Lynx Acces at Sailor : library in Maryland and perform my : downloading from there. I get the 9024 packet length, but after the : downloading, the percentage at the end is always in the teens. : Sailor is evidently using an old version of C-Kermit, as revealed in a packet log taken by MS-DOS Kermit: Rpack: ^A0 Sz* @-#Y1~N! z(^M <-- Sailor sends Spack: ^A7 Y~( @-#&1~^!5% ___F!0*^M <-- MS-DOS Kermit replies This is the parameter exchange. A modern version of C-Kermit would have a parameter string the same length as MS-DOS Kermit 3.15. Sailor says "1 window slot", and this overrides your "SET WIN 4" command because negotiations always settle on the lowest window size announced by the two Kermits. However, the log also reveals that it is sending rather long packets. So my guess is that they have C-Kermit 5A(188) or 5A(189), since previous releases could not send packets longer than about 2K. The current release of C-Kermit is 6.0: http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/ck60.html You should ask the people at Sailor to install the current version and configure it for a larger window size, maybe 8 or more, by adding "set window 8" to their C-Kermit initialization file. This might or might not improve matters. I noticed when logged in to Sailor that packets arrived in jerks and spurts. So the real culprit might be the load on the Sailor system itself, or its local area network, or the terminal server you are dialing in to, if any. : It takes about 30 minutes to download a 1MB file or program. My own ISP : uses C-Kermit but the max packet size I can get from that is 2050. : This indicates that your ISP is running a pre-1992 version of C-Kermit. Ask them to install the current version. : Also, on my own ISP, I don't get the "bar graph" when downloading. I : always get this when downloading from Sailor. Why is that?? : This indicates that their version of C-Kermit goes back to the 1985-87 era. Again, ask them to upgrade. - Frank From news@columbia.edu Mon Apr 21 12:05:08 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA09856 for ; Mon, 21 Apr 1997 12:05:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA05459 for kermit.misc@watsun; Mon, 21 Apr 1997 12:05:07 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: carrier detect signal ? Date: 21 Apr 1997 16:05:06 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 30 Message-ID: <5jg37i$jpv$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <3355fe5a.2510622@NEWS.INDIGO.IE> <5j6b3k$nv8$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> <335b4d44.4121326@NEWS.INDIGO.IE> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6925 In article <335b4d44.4121326@NEWS.INDIGO.IE>, alan wrote: : On 17 Apr 1997 23:18:12 GMT, fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da : Cruz) wrote: : : >In article <3355fe5a.2510622@NEWS.INDIGO.IE>, alan wrote: : >: Is it possible to use ms kermit to issue a carrier detect signal : >: somehow? : >: : >Kermit runs on a computer. CD is a signal from the modem TO the computer. : >The computer can't issue it. You can force your MODEM to issue it if you : >want to, but the exact method depends on your modem. If it can be done by : >command, then you can have MS-DOS Kermit send this command to your modem. : >The command for this might be something like AT&C0. : > : >You can also make Kermit ignore the CD signal if you want to -- in fact, : >it does so by default. The command is SET CARRIER { ON, OFF }. This only : >affects how Kermit reacts to the CD signal from the modem -- it does not : >affect the signal itself. : : I am trying to get the bbs using a door with a terminal emulation to : open a comm port and send out a carrier detect signal. The bbs is to : be attached to an intellisystem so basically someone dialls into the : bbs and I want it to act as a dumb terminal. To do this the : intellisystem needs a carrier detect signal. : This is accomplished using a null modem cable, in which the DTR signal is cross-wired with the CD signal. See pages 35-40 of your "Using MS-DOS Kermit" manual. - Frank From news@columbia.edu Mon Apr 21 16:08:29 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA00309 for ; Mon, 21 Apr 1997 16:08:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA13444 for kermit.misc@watsun; Mon, 21 Apr 1997 16:08:28 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Pornographic junk mail Date: 21 Apr 1997 20:08:27 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 71 Message-ID: <5jghfr$p$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6926 > Mr. da Cruz, > > I thank you for your Kermit forum. I have benefited from > being able to read the articles in the newsgroup. > Thanks. > However, this morning when I started reading, there was an > item entitled "*Tight Teen Snatch* teen1.jpg". Which gave > an address for what amounted to child pornography. > This happens all the time in every unmoderated newsgroup. Welcome to the global village. Usually offensive posts like this are quickly followed by a "Spam cancel" message originating from some public-spirited volunteer. This cancellation message is supposed to either stop the message from being propogated, or prevent your news server from showing it to you in case it has already arrived. Such a Spam cancel quickly followed the offending message, and the message did not even arrive here, and I did not know about it until I got your email. I think this is the case with most readers. So either you happened to read the newsgroup during the short period between the arrival of the original messages and the cancellation, or else your news server does not understand or respond to cancellations. Hoever, I confess that I do not have a very firm grasp on how the cancellation process works. Evidently, however, it works better some places than others. > I realize you have little control over the articles which get > posted to your news group, and I do not blame you for the > fact that the article was there. However, I do not have > the resources to find out who the offending carrier is, and > lodge a complaint there. > I don't think it would do any good. Such messages are often completely untraceable. In those cases where the poster was not smart enough to disguise his identity (I use "his" advisedly), the worst that happens is a cancellation of his account by his ISP, so he moves to another ISP and continues his activities. > Also, if our corporate IS group > receives a complaint about the memo. They WILL block the > Kermit newsgroup from our local server. They have done so > before on other newsgroups because of provocative spams. > Then they might as well shut down their news service altogether, because these messages are posted to thousands of newsgroups and mailing lists simultaneously by special Spam generating programs. You can't participate in netnews without leaving yourself open to this and all other kinds of verbal assaults. > Therefore, I would appreciate it if you would register my > complaint with the carrier of whoever sent that message, > and take whatever steps possible to prevent further > occurances. Your newsgroup is a valuable tool which I would > hate to lose. > And we would hate to lose you as a reader, but this problem is bigger than both of us. Since the message did not even arrive here, I have no way to trace it. In any case, I'm sure the postmaster at the site listed as the origin of the message has already received 100,000 angry letters because messages like this are rarely targeted at a single newsgroup. I'm sorry you and everybody else has to put up with this, but I'm afraid it will only get worse. - Frank From news@columbia.edu Mon Apr 21 17:18:21 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA15156 for ; Mon, 21 Apr 1997 17:18:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA17122 for kermit.misc@watsun; Mon, 21 Apr 1997 17:18:20 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!sprint!cs.utexas.edu!news.cs.utah.edu!cc.usu.edu!jrd From: jrd@cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Kermit 3.14 problems over TCPIP Message-ID: <1997Apr21.095145.97219@cc.usu.edu> Date: 21 Apr 97 09:51:45 MDT References: <01bc51a4$040dc930$3bcf60cf@patrice> Organization: Utah State University Lines: 26 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6927 In article <01bc51a4$040dc930$3bcf60cf@patrice>, "Patrice Levesque" writes: > Hi, > > I will appreciate if somebody can help me concerning a problem with Kermit > 3.14. > > We are using MS-Kermit 3.14 over the network via TCP/IP with Windows > Workgroup 3.11. It is working well but when we switch Kermit 3.14 (in a DOS > Windows) in background, it will eventually disconnect from the server. The > server is an Alpha 2100 with Open VMS 6.2. > > I did changes in the KERMIT.PIF file but I'm not able to correct the > problem. Any suggestions. > ------------ As you can imagine, Kermit must be given cpu cycles on a regular basis if it is to maintain a TCP/IP connection. Giving those cycles is a Windows configuration problem and I don't have a ready answer for how to do that other than the obvious of checking the box saying it runs in the background. A quick way of checking as you experiment with PIF settings is to initiate a long file transfer, put MSK in the background, and then bring it to the foreground to see how much work has transpired. In the past this used to work fine when MSK was reduced to an icon, but one's Win 3.11 settings vary considerably from one installation to another. I haven't checked this recently (no changes to MSK which should make a difference here). Joe D. From news@columbia.edu Mon Apr 21 18:49:36 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA02288 for ; Mon, 21 Apr 1997 18:49:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA21549 for kermit.misc@watsun; Mon, 21 Apr 1997 18:49:35 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!pepmnt From: pepmnt@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (John Chandler) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: IBM mainframe Kermit 4.3.2 Beta Date: 21 Apr 1997 22:49:31 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 24 Message-ID: <5jgqtr$5oo$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6928 Version 4.3.2 of IBM mainframe Kermit is available for public beta testing in all variants: CICS, CMS, MUSIC, and TSO. The latest addition is the completion of support for file time tags 2000+ in the CMS variant (already complete in the other variants). The new code is accompanied by an updated installation procedure that automatically detects whether the underlying CMS system supports 4-digit years (CMS release 13 and higher) and, if so, includes the new code. An executable Kermit module created under CMS 13 should not be executed under earlier releases of CMS because it will make system calls that are illegal under earlier releases. The files needed for installing IBM mainframe Kermits consist of two sets: generic files for all variants and files specific to the variant in question. All are in the "B" Kermit distribution area. The generic files are ik0*.* (eye kay zero), and the specific files are ikc*.* (CMS), ikm*.* (MUSIC), ikt*.* (TSO), and ikx*.* (CICS). The updates applied to all the variants are discussed in the respective BWR files (ik0ker.bwr, ikcker.bwr, ikmker.bwr, etc.). Instructions for installation, including the automated procedures, are given in ikcker.ins, ikmker.ins, etc. John Chandler From news@columbia.edu Mon Apr 21 20:45:44 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA23228 for ; Mon, 21 Apr 1997 20:45:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA27310 for kermit.misc@watsun; Mon, 21 Apr 1997 20:45:43 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!news.msfc.nasa.gov!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!worldnet.att.net!newsadm From: Tom.Horsley@worldnet.att.net (Thomas A. Horsley) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: A challenge for kermit scripts... Date: 21 Apr 1997 20:45:06 -0400 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Lines: 8 Sender: tom@SPIKE.cc.columbia.edu Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.146.104.76 X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6929 Over on the worldnet users group a discussion of ways to kill spam came up with the idea of telnetting to the POP3 port and scanning the headers using some telnet program with built-in scripting ability. All the messages that mention cyberpromo.com, etc. could be deleted before reading mail normally. This sounds like just the sort of insane thing someone might already have used kermit to do, so I just thought I'd ask if anyone has such a script already. From news@columbia.edu Tue Apr 22 00:19:40 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA23575 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 1997 00:19:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA07882 for kermit.misc@watsun; Tue, 22 Apr 1997 00:19:37 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!spool.mu.edu!uwm.edu!newsfeeds.sol.net!hammer.uoregon.edu!news.uoregon.edu!xmission!news.cc.utah.edu!news.cs.utah.edu!cc.usu.edu!jrd From: jrd@cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: carrier detect signal ? Message-ID: <1997Apr21.210615.97248@cc.usu.edu> Date: 21 Apr 97 21:06:15 MDT References: <3355fe5a.2510622@NEWS.INDIGO.IE> <335b4d5b.4144566@NEWS.INDIGO.IE> Organization: Utah State University Lines: 30 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6930 In article <335b4d5b.4144566@NEWS.INDIGO.IE>, offline@INDIGO.IE (alan) writes: > On 18 Apr 97 09:00:20 MDT, jrd@cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) wrote: > >>In article <3355fe5a.2510622@NEWS.INDIGO.IE>, offline@INDIGO.IE (alan) writes: >>> Is it possible to use ms kermit to issue a carrier detect signal >>> somehow? >>----------- >> Carrier Detect is a signal FROM the modem TO the computer, never >>the other way around (electrically the direction can't be reversed). What >>is it you are really trying to accomplish? >> Joe D. > I am trying to get the bbs using a door with a terminal emulation to > open a comm port and send out a carrier detect signal. The bbs is to No, wrong thinking. The modem generates a CD signal and the computer senses it on serial port lines (status bits to programs). > be attached to an intellisystem so basically someone dialls into the > bbs and I want it to act as a dumb terminal. To do this the > intellisystem needs a carrier detect signal. When a person selects > Intellisystem from the menu, the node shuts down and a terminal > emulator kicks in. I want to write a batch file that will run a > terminal emulation program . I also need to force a carrier detect > signal so the intellisystem will spew back the necessary information. > Do I have to get Pascal or something like this to write a program? > Cheers, > alan I'm not sure what all this has to do with Kermit. Perhaps you can enlighten us. Joe D. From news@columbia.edu Tue Apr 22 15:11:27 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA14573 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 1997 15:11:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA22415 for kermit.misc@watsun; Tue, 22 Apr 1997 15:11:26 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.eecs.umich.edu!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!netcom.net.uk!netcom-uk-feed0!news.enterprise.net!not-for-mail From: "Shaun Watters" Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Can Kermit confirm files for transfer? Date: 22 Apr 1997 19:00:07 GMT Organization: Enterprise PLC - Internet Services Lines: 7 Message-ID: <01bc4f50$4cf78880$96c348c2@sbw> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp150.enterprise.net X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6931 Can anyone tell me if it's possible to have Kermit confirm files for transfer, if using a wildcard get. (i.e. GET *.SCR - is it possible for Kermit to prompt you for a yes or no as to wether to send this file or not. Shaun From news@columbia.edu Tue Apr 22 15:57:24 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA23568 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 1997 15:57:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA24771 for kermit.misc@watsun; Tue, 22 Apr 1997 15:57:23 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Can Kermit confirm files for transfer? Date: 22 Apr 1997 19:57:22 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 29 Message-ID: <5jj572$jtn$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <01bc4f50$4cf78880$96c348c2@sbw> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6932 In article <01bc4f50$4cf78880$96c348c2@sbw>, Shaun Watters wrote: : Can anyone tell me if it's possible to have Kermit confirm files for : transfer, if using a wildcard get. (i.e. GET *.SCR - is it possible for : Kermit to prompt you for a yes or no as to wether to send this file or not. : No. We considered this, but protocol transfers are time sensitive and should not hang on waiting for human intervention to proceed, because if the human is distracted, the other Kermit could easily time out waiting for a reply. Instead we have: . The SET FILE COLLISION mechanism, which works without human intervention, but kicks in only if the incoming file has the same name as an existing file. . File-transfer interruption. If you are receiving a group of files, the Kermit program lets you type a character (usually X or F) to cancel the current file and go on to the next one. . In C-Kermit 6.0 we have the SEND LIST. So if it's the one on the far end, you can build a specific list of files to be sent a priori. The list can contain any mixture of text and binary files, wilcards and simple filenames, files from any mixture of directories, etc, and each file can have its own "as-name". One of these techniques should fit your requirements. - Frank From news@columbia.edu Tue Apr 22 19:36:56 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA07454 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 1997 19:36:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA05655 for kermit.misc@watsun; Tue, 22 Apr 1997 19:36:52 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in2.uu.net!206.250.118.17!nntp.earthlink.net!usenet From: q[03wruefj@aoiwfd.com Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Kate Moss moss.jpg Date: 22 Apr 1997 21:24:04 GMT Organization: Earthlink Network, Inc. Lines: 9 Message-ID: <5jja9k$1j9@argentina.earthlink.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.217.13.190 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6933 Check out this site that I found, it has tons of Nude Celebrity Pictures. http://www.sexy-stars.com From news@columbia.edu Tue Apr 22 23:36:53 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA15268 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 1997 23:36:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA17530 for kermit.misc@watsun; Tue, 22 Apr 1997 23:36:52 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!news.kei.com!news.thenet.net!uunet!in1.uu.net!199.242.16.13!news4.ixa.net!ixa.net!nwnews.wa.com!brokaw.wa.com!nwfocus.wa.com!camco!camco.celestial.com!geo From: geo@camco.celestial.com (George Clute) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Kermit for SCO OSR 5.0 Date: 23 Apr 1997 03:00:08 GMT Organization: Celestial Software, Mercer Island, WA Lines: 8 Message-ID: <5jjtvo$e45$1@camco.celestial.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: camco.celestial.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6934 Does kermit build in the modem names and codes from source. I only have the compiled SA(190) 4, oct, 94'? I'm looking for a Multitech zdx2840xdb listing. I'm having problems talking with this modem. George Clute geo@celestial.com From news@columbia.edu Wed Apr 23 07:20:44 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA07160 for ; Wed, 23 Apr 1997 07:20:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA22925 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 23 Apr 1997 07:20:43 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!worldnet.att.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!sprint!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!feeder.chicago.cic.net!ftpbox!mothost.mot.com!news-in.cig.mot.com!news.ecid.cig.mot.com!merlin!cornellr From: cornellr@merlin.ecid.cig.mot.com (Robert Cornell) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Logging Question. Date: 23 Apr 1997 09:51:45 GMT Organization: Motorola Ltd., European Cellular Infrastructure Division Lines: 10 Distribution: world Message-ID: <1997Apr23.104606@merlin.ecid.cig.mot.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: saker.ecid.cig.mot.com Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6935 I have a script that connects to a remote host via another machine that acts as a logging host. Each machine is running its own version of kermit. i.e. local ----modem----- intermediate -----modem----- remote Is it possible to turn logging off on the intermediate host prior to a file transfer and reinstate it on completion of the transfer without dropping the intermediate / remote connection. -- Robert Cornell From news@columbia.edu Wed Apr 23 08:30:25 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA15176 for ; Wed, 23 Apr 1997 08:30:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA26310 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 23 Apr 1997 08:30:23 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!enews.sgi.com!news.corp.sgi.com!news.sgi.com!csulb.edu!hammer.uoregon.edu!leto.ou.edu!news.ou.edu!not-for-mail From: richman@TRUMPKIN.GCN.ou.edu (Mike Richman) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: kermit not releasing a modem connection Date: 23 Apr 1997 12:24:53 GMT Organization: The University of Oklahoma (USA) Lines: 20 Message-ID: <5jkv2l$9qp$1@artemis.backbone.ou.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: trumpkin.gcn.ou.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 950824BETA PL0] Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6936 I have installed kermit C-Kermit 5A (190) on a Sun Sparcstation running Solaris. I use it to connect two modems. When I log off from a kermit session using a modem, then log back on to attempt to disconnect the modem iat the machine end (want to use the sequence "connect" followed by "ATS0=0"), the software hangs and says.... Sorry can't open connection: /dev/cua/a: Device busy This means I must reboot my machine. Can anyone tell me of there is a patch for this or an easier way than rebooting for killing that connection (it seemingly has no pid which I can find). Thanks. Mike Richman U. Oklahoma mrichman@ou.edu From news@columbia.edu Wed Apr 23 10:07:21 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA00982 for ; Wed, 23 Apr 1997 10:07:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA01081 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 23 Apr 1997 10:07:20 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Kermit for SCO OSR 5.0 Date: 23 Apr 1997 14:07:17 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 16 Message-ID: <5jl52l$ga0$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <5jjtvo$e45$1@camco.celestial.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6937 In article <5jjtvo$e45$1@camco.celestial.com>, George Clute wrote: : Does kermit build in the modem names and codes from source. I only : have the compiled SA(190) 4, oct, 94'? : : I'm looking for a Multitech zdx2840xdb listing. I'm having problems talking : with this modem. : The current version of C-Kermit is 6.0.192: http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/ck60.html It has built-in support for Multitech modems, and it also allows for user-defined modem types. - Frank From news@columbia.edu Wed Apr 23 10:10:42 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA01576 for ; Wed, 23 Apr 1997 10:10:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA01301 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 23 Apr 1997 10:10:41 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Logging Question. Date: 23 Apr 1997 14:10:41 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 26 Message-ID: <5jl591$gd7$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <1997Apr23.104606@merlin.ecid.cig.mot.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6938 In article <1997Apr23.104606@merlin.ecid.cig.mot.com>, Robert Cornell wrote: : I have a script that connects to a remote host via another machine that acts : as a logging host. Each machine is running its own version of kermit. : : i.e. local ----modem----- intermediate -----modem----- remote : : Is it possible to turn logging off on the intermediate host prior to a file : transfer and reinstate it on completion of the transfer without dropping the : intermediate / remote connection. : I don't understand what you mean by "logging". You mean the Kermit program on the intermediate machine is in CONNECT mode, with a session log going? If that's what you mean, then sure -- just escape back to its prompt and tell it to "close session". If the Kermit program on the intermediate computer is C-Kermit, you should know that the current version of C-Kermit is 6.0. More info at: http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/ck60.html One of the many new features of this release is a series of enhancements for just this situation. They are described in detail in the new edition of "Using C-Kermit", in the section "C-Kermit in the middle". - Frank From news@columbia.edu Wed Apr 23 10:13:04 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA01908 for ; Wed, 23 Apr 1997 10:13:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA01336 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 23 Apr 1997 10:13:00 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: kermit not releasing a modem connection Date: 23 Apr 1997 14:12:59 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 24 Message-ID: <5jl5db$geu$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <5jkv2l$9qp$1@artemis.backbone.ou.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6939 In article <5jkv2l$9qp$1@artemis.backbone.ou.edu>, Mike Richman wrote: : I have installed kermit C-Kermit 5A (190) on a Sun Sparcstation running : Solaris. I use it to connect two modems. When I log off from a kermit : session using a modem, then log back on to attempt to disconnect the modem : iat the machine end (want to use the sequence "connect" followed by : "ATS0=0"), the software hangs and says.... : : Sorry can't open connection: /dev/cua/a: Device busy : : This means I must reboot my machine. : : Can anyone tell me of there is a patch for this or an easier way than : rebooting for killing that connection (it seemingly has no pid which I : can find). : Some Solaris-specific problems were fixed in C-Kermit 6.0.192. Please install this new version and see if your trouble goes away: http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/ck60.html If not, consult the ckuker.bwr file, the Solaris section in particular. - Frank From news@columbia.edu Wed Apr 23 14:57:19 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA04314 for ; Wed, 23 Apr 1997 14:57:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA15045 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 23 Apr 1997 14:57:18 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!cmg From: cmg@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Christine Gianone) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Announcing MS-DOS Kermit 3.15 Beta 20 Date: 23 Apr 1997 18:57:17 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 19 Message-ID: <5jlm2d$rh9$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6940 >From Joe Doupnik, another adjustment to MS-DOS Kermit's new DHCP client, in light of recent changes to the DHCP protocol specification, and for compatibility with Cisco 700-series routers. Beta 20 makes sure the server identification field is not created spontaneously, the "time since boot" the client secs field is forced to 0 in all packets, and protection against endless retries on rejected IP lease renewals was added. Also, incorrect RFC citations in the MSK315.DOC file were fixed. Thanks as always to Joe D for keeping MS-DOS Kermit up with the times. Beta 19 is in the usual place: ftp://kermit.columbia.edu/kermit/test/bin/msk315.zip As with the previous Betas, download this one into your regular MS-DOS Kermit 3.14 directory and unzip it. It makes MSK315.EXE and MSK315.DOC files which do not conflict with your current installation. To test, just run MSK315 instead of KERMIT. Send reports to kermit-support@columbia.edu. /Christine From news@columbia.edu Wed Apr 23 16:25:08 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA22366 for ; Wed, 23 Apr 1997 16:25:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA19276 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 23 Apr 1997 16:25:07 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!news.msfc.nasa.gov!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!worldnet.att.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!netcom.net.uk!netcom-uk-feed0!news.enterprise.net!not-for-mail From: "Shaun Watters" Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: File transfer confirmation Date: 23 Apr 1997 20:16:46 GMT Organization: Enterprise PLC - Internet Services Lines: 8 Message-ID: <01bc5024$31423ac0$35c348c2@sbw> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp53.enterprise.net X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6941 Can anyone tell me if it's possible to have Kermit confirm files for transfer, if using a wildcard get. (i.e. GET *.SCR - is it possible for Kermit to prompt you for a yes or no as to wether to send this file or not. Shaun sbw@enterprise.net From news@columbia.edu Wed Apr 23 18:52:16 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA22366 for ; Wed, 23 Apr 1997 18:52:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA26533 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 23 Apr 1997 18:52:11 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in2.uu.net!208.197.151.4!news.esinet.net!news1.cstone.net!not-for-mail From: "Jesse Spencer" Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: No carrier, after getting connected Date: 23 Apr 1997 22:43:33 GMT Organization: MJ Sytems Lines: 22 Message-ID: <01bc5050$dac0b780$322bcdce@Jspencer> NNTP-Posting-Host: node17.mjsi.com X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6942 I am having problem with no carrier messages from Kermit. When dialing with Kermit from a VAX or ALPHA running VMS 6.1 to the same I keep getting no carrier. I have upgraded to version 6. but that has not helped. This only occurs when dialing from a U.S. Robotics 28.8 or 33.6 to a 28.8/33.6. If either the modem dialed into is a 14.4 or out of is a 14.4 there is noproblem. The modems connect and if I set dial display on, I can see it actually gets a username, but then it just sits there try to negotiate something and returns a no carrier message to the screen with a modem message: "No Connection." The serial port rate is 19200 and the settings on the modems are identical. I have tried setting carrier off, on and auto, setting the speed and leaving it auto, flow control every option, nothing has helped. If I connect to the modem and just use dial commands, I can connect 28.8 to 28.8 without a problem. Most of this has been using version 5 but as I have said I upgraded with no success. I would greatly appreciate any input. I have also tried setting the modem hayes and usrobotics to no avail. Any ideas please send mail to: Spencer@mjsi.com Thanks, Jesse Spencer From news@columbia.edu Wed Apr 23 19:02:11 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA24083 for ; Wed, 23 Apr 1997 19:02:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA27022 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 23 Apr 1997 19:02:09 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.eecs.umich.edu!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.direct.ca!newsgate.direct.ca!usenet From: Great Opportunity Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Earn Upwards of $10000 per month Date: 23 Apr 1997 22:55:34 GMT Organization: Successful People R Us Lines: 28 Message-ID: <5jm416$7ut$1822@orb.direct.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: cal-52-0105.direct.ca Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6943 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- This message is being brought to you by Dynamic Mail - the easier and faster's way to explodes your business on the internet. 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Marketing Services Inc. ** From news@columbia.edu Wed Apr 23 19:42:48 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA01509 for ; Wed, 23 Apr 1997 19:42:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA29019 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 23 Apr 1997 19:42:47 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: No carrier, after getting connected Date: 23 Apr 1997 23:42:44 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 43 Message-ID: <5jm6pk$86c$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <01bc5050$dac0b780$322bcdce@Jspencer> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6944 In article <01bc5050$dac0b780$322bcdce@Jspencer>, Jesse Spencer wrote: : I am having problem with no carrier messages from Kermit. : NO CARRIER is a message from the modem and indicates that it failed to negotiate a modulation technique with the other modem. It has nothing at all to do with Kermit except insofar as Kermit has sent it some setup strings. : When dialing with : Kermit from a VAX or ALPHA running VMS 6.1 to the same I keep getting no : carrier. I have upgraded to version 6. but that has not helped. This only : occurs when dialing from a U.S. Robotics 28.8 or 33.6 to a 28.8/33.6. If : either the modem dialed into is a 14.4 or out of is a 14.4 there is : noproblem. : Did you tell Kermit to "set modem type usr" prior to dialing? If not, then Kermit is probably not sending the correct setup string. : The modems connect and if I set dial display on, I can see it : actually gets a username, but then it just sits there try to negotiate : something and returns a no carrier message to the screen with a modem : message: "No Connection." : So NO CARRIER comes shortly after a connection has been made? Again, it's a problem between the two modems, having to do with their configuration, or possibly having to do with whatever is connected to the remote modem. : The serial port rate is 19200 and the settings on : the modems are identical. : If you use V.32 (28.8 or 33.6) when your serial port speed is 19200 bps you had better be sure you have *bidirectional* RTS/CTS flow control enabled in both modems, and both serial ports that the modems are connected to, since otherwise the modems will overrun the serial ports. I suspect the remote modem is overrunning the serial port of the thing it is connected to (a DECserver?), and so the DECserver is hanging up on it. Hardware flow control is a major issue here. If DECservers are involved, I recommend you read section I.4 of the CKVINS.DOC file that comes with VMS C-Kermit 6.0. - Frank From news@columbia.edu Wed Apr 23 21:40:12 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA17909 for ; Wed, 23 Apr 1997 21:40:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA04698 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 23 Apr 1997 21:40:11 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!spool.mu.edu!uwm.edu!newsfeeds.sol.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!ott.istar!news.istar.net!n3ott.istar!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.ycc.yale.edu!mercury.cis.yale.edu!jimh From: "J. Hormuzdiar" Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: TX-97 K6-200 Kermit problem Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 21:24:29 -0400 Organization: Yale University Lines: 31 Message-ID: Reply-To: "J. Hormuzdiar" NNTP-Posting-Host: mercury.cis.yale.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: jimh@mercury.cis.yale.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6945 I just purchased a new motherboard/processor (Asus TX-97 with a K6-200) and it's divine! Well, almost perfect except for one little problem.... All my old software works except for Kermit. It worked great for years, all I did was change the motherboard, and now whenever I start it, all I get is a one line message : Divide overflow Then it goes back to dos. Kermit is the last thing I would have expected to have this problem with. How in the world can changing a motherboard/processor cause this to happen???? 1). Could it be that the K6 isn't 100% compatible with the Intel chips? 2). Could a faulty or misconfigured Asus TX-97 cause this? 3). Does Kermit just have problems running on newer processors? I even re-installed Kermit, still no luck. And my modem is working fine with the Windows terminal program.... -Jim From news@columbia.edu Thu Apr 24 11:42:04 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA14412 for ; Thu, 24 Apr 1997 11:42:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA09242 for kermit.misc@watsun; Thu, 24 Apr 1997 11:42:03 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: TX-97 K6-200 Kermit problem Date: 24 Apr 1997 15:42:02 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 50 Message-ID: <5jnv0a$a7k$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6947 In article , J. Hormuzdiar wrote: : : I just purchased a new motherboard/processor (Asus TX-97 with a : K6-200) and it's divine! Well, almost perfect except for one little : problem.... All my old software works except for Kermit. It worked great : for years, all I did was change the motherboard, and now whenever I start : it, all I get is a one line message : : : Divide overflow : : Then it goes back to dos. : : Kermit is the last thing I would have expected to have this : problem with. How in the world can changing a motherboard/processor cause : this to happen???? : MS-DOS Kermit has a calibration loop to determine the processor speed. If the processor is very fast, this can happen. The cure for this problem is almost always to pick up a newer version of MS-DOS Kermit: MS-DOS Kermit 3.14: Anonymous ftp to kermit.columbia.edu directory kermit/archives binary mode file msvibm.zip If you had a previous version of MS-DOS Kermit, and you want to install the new version over it, first make safe copies of your MSCUSTOM.INI and DIALUPS.TXT files, as well as any other file you might have modified. Then unzip (with PKUNZIP or equivalent) using the "-d" switch to preserve the directory structure. Then read the top-level READ.ME file for further installation instructions. MS-DOS Kermit 3.15: Anonymous ftp to kermit.columbia.edu directory kermit/test/bin binary mode file msk315.zip Put the ZIP file in your Kermit directory and unzip. This gives you MSK315.EXE plus some update notes, MSK315.DOC. To test, run MSK315 rather than KERMIT. It uses all the regular MS-DOS Kermit 3.14 initialization files, subdirectories, etc, with no conflicts. - Frank From news@columbia.edu Thu Apr 24 12:53:17 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA29475 for ; Thu, 24 Apr 1997 12:53:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA12708 for kermit.misc@watsun; Thu, 24 Apr 1997 12:53:16 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!news.msfc.nasa.gov!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-peer.sprintlink.net!sprint!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.voicenet.com!omni2!cmosley From: cmosley@voicenet.com (Christopher Mosley) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: APC Date: 24 Apr 1997 16:50:56 GMT Organization: Voicenet - Internet Access - (215)674-9290 Lines: 12 Message-ID: <5jo31g$j0$1@news1.voicenet.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: omni2.voicenet.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6948 The apc escape mechanism ends by connecting you to the emulator rather than the mskermit prompt. It would be nice you to be returned to the mskermit prompt with the option of using the 'connect/c' at the end of the apc string or manually, or to do whatever you wished at the kermit prompt. The apc escape mechanism is a very useful as is but would be even more useful if it had this option. Thanks Chris Mosley From news@columbia.edu Thu Apr 24 13:26:29 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA05767 for ; Thu, 24 Apr 1997 13:26:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA14270 for kermit.misc@watsun; Thu, 24 Apr 1997 13:26:27 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: APC Date: 24 Apr 1997 17:26:25 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 15 Message-ID: <5jo541$dr4$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <5jo31g$j0$1@news1.voicenet.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6949 In article <5jo31g$j0$1@news1.voicenet.com>, Christopher Mosley wrote: : : The apc escape mechanism ends by connecting you to the emulator : rather than the mskermit prompt. It would be nice you to be returned to the : mskermit prompt with the option of using the 'connect/c' at the end : of the apc string or manually, or to do whatever you wished at the : kermit prompt. The apc escape mechanism is a very useful as is : but would be even more useful if it had this option. : C-Kermit 6.0, Kermit 95, and MS-DOS Kermit 3.15 have a new command, CLEAR APC. If you include this in the APC string, then you will be left at the prompt after execution of the APC commands. - Frank From news@columbia.edu Thu Apr 24 14:04:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA13906 for ; Thu, 24 Apr 1997 14:04:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA16454 for kermit.misc@watsun; Thu, 24 Apr 1997 14:04:06 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!gatech!smash.gatech.edu!prism!prism!not-for-mail From: ma201rs@prism.gatech.edu (SHONKWILER R W) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: downloading across platforms Date: 24 Apr 1997 13:31:39 -0400 Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology Lines: 11 Message-ID: <5jo5dr$odt@acmex.gatech.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: ma201rs@acmex-prism.gatech.edu Keywords: kermit download Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6950 We installed the new kermit on our sun (unix) system, version 6.0.192 for Solaris 2.x. Right away PC users complained of having trouble downloading even ascii files. ron shonkwiler -- SHONKWILER R W Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332 uucp: ...!{allegra,amd,hplabs,seismo,ut-ngp}!gatech!prism!ma201rs ARPA: ma201rs@prism.gatech.edu From news@columbia.edu Thu Apr 24 15:02:05 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA25790 for ; Thu, 24 Apr 1997 15:02:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA19306 for kermit.misc@watsun; Thu, 24 Apr 1997 15:02:04 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: downloading across platforms Date: 24 Apr 1997 19:02:00 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 13 Message-ID: <5joan8$hmr$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <5jo5dr$odt@acmex.gatech.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Keywords: kermit download Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6951 In article <5jo5dr$odt@acmex.gatech.edu>, SHONKWILER R W wrote: : We installed the new kermit on our sun (unix) system, version : 6.0.192 for Solaris 2.x. Right away PC users complained of : having trouble downloading even ascii files. : Kermit protocol is designed for cross-platform text-file transfer by default -- you have to go out of your way to get anything else. So what OS is on their PCs, and which communications software are they using? And what exactly was the trouble they were having? - Frank From news@columbia.edu Thu Apr 24 18:26:38 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA08337 for ; Thu, 24 Apr 1997 18:26:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA29294 for kermit.misc@watsun; Thu, 24 Apr 1997 18:26:37 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!spool.mu.edu!uwm.edu!newsfeeds.sol.net!feed1.news.erols.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsout1.alt.net!news1.alt.net!news.aros.net!news.cs.utah.edu!cc.usu.edu!jrd From: jrd@cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: TX-97 K6-200 Kermit problem Message-ID: <1997Apr24.155025.97383@cc.usu.edu> Date: 24 Apr 97 15:50:25 MDT References: Organization: Utah State University Lines: 19 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6952 In article , "J. Hormuzdiar" writes: > I just purchased a new motherboard/processor (Asus TX-97 with a > K6-200) and it's divine! Well, almost perfect except for one little > problem.... All my old software works except for Kermit. It worked great > for years, all I did was change the motherboard, and now whenever I start > it, all I get is a one line message : > > Divide overflow > > Then it goes back to dos. > > Kermit is the last thing I would have expected to have this > problem with. How in the world can changing a motherboard/processor cause > this to happen???? ----------- What has happened is you are using an old version of Kermit written before the super-duper cpu's were available. Please upgrade your MS-DOS Kermit to the current release v3.14 or better try beta 3.15. Joe D. From news@columbia.edu Fri Apr 25 04:57:46 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA06811 for ; Fri, 25 Apr 1997 04:57:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA23232 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 25 Apr 1997 04:57:44 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-feed2.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.indigo.ie!not-for-mail From: offline@INDIGO.IE (alan) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: help with a remote use of kermit please Date: Fri, 25 Apr 1997 08:49:16 GMT Organization: Indigo Lines: 18 Message-ID: <33606ff6.1069011@NEWS.INDIGO.IE> NNTP-Posting-Host: ts17-03.dublin.indigo.ie X-Newsreader: Forte Agent .99e/32.227 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6953 I am running wildcat v 4.11. I have setupa door so that a batch file will run (I am trying to get it to run Kermit). The bbs is setup to another system, the idea being that once a user dials in and selects an item from the main menu, a batch file runs Kermit, allowing a terminal session which echos back to the user . Kermit however has a problem as it can only talk to comms 1-4. We need a dos terminal emulation program that will support more tham comm ports 1 to 4, preferably being able to communicate through a fossil driver fr the digiboards. The bbs is therefore acting like a dumb termainal. If I am directly using the bbs i can use kermit to create a terminal session, but I dial in from another computer I can see Kermit running on the bbs, so the batch file runs, but it stays local to the bbs. It does not get echoed to my remote computer. The bbs is setup using digiboards and the other system that is attached to the bbs is using an Arnet smartport. This is basically a card with an external attachment allowing 8 comm ports to be set up. Any help would be greatly appreciated. From news@columbia.edu Fri Apr 25 10:36:17 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA19417 for ; Fri, 25 Apr 1997 10:36:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA27955 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 25 Apr 1997 10:36:15 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: help with a remote use of kermit please Date: 25 Apr 1997 14:36:12 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 42 Message-ID: <5jqfgs$gin$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <33606ff6.1069011@NEWS.INDIGO.IE> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6954 In article <33606ff6.1069011@NEWS.INDIGO.IE>, alan wrote: : I am running wildcat v 4.11. I have setupa door so that a batch file : will run (I am trying to get it to run Kermit). : Bad news and good news... : The bbs is setup to : another system, the idea being that once a user dials in and selects : an item from the main menu, a batch file runs Kermit, allowing a : terminal session which echos back to the user. : I think this one must be a "no". MS-DOS Kermit is not designed to act as a relay between two other computers. It reads from the real keyboard and writes to the real screen. Although it *can* be run under "ctty com1" (or similar), you can't enter CONNECT mode when using it in this fashion. : Kermit however has a : problem as it can only talk to comms 1-4. We need a dos terminal : emulation program that will support more tham comm ports 1 to 4, : preferably being able to communicate through a fossil driver fr the : digiboards. : This one is a "yes". The current version of MS-DOS Kermit is 3.14, and it can indeed use Fossil drivers, via "set port fossil ". : The bbs is therefore acting like a dumb termainal. If I am : directly using the bbs i can use kermit to create a terminal session, : but I dial in from another computer I can see Kermit running on the : bbs, so the batch file runs, but it stays local to the bbs. It does : not get echoed to my remote computer. The bbs is setup using : digiboards and the other system that is attached to the bbs is using : an Arnet smartport. This is basically a card with an external : attachment allowing 8 comm ports to be set up. : I don't think MS-DOS Kermit can help you in this case. I would, however, recommend that you install "MS-DOS Kermit Lite" as the Kermit protocol on your BBS, since it works better and faster than the built-in one. You can read all about this at: http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/newsn6.html#bbs - Frank From news@columbia.edu Fri Apr 25 11:28:16 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA29204 for ; Fri, 25 Apr 1997 11:28:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA00561 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 25 Apr 1997 11:28:05 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-feed2.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.indigo.ie!not-for-mail From: offline@INDIGO.IE (alan) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: non standard com ports help Date: Fri, 25 Apr 1997 15:18:35 GMT Organization: Indigo Lines: 3 Message-ID: <3360caff.4750156@NEWS.INDIGO.IE> NNTP-Posting-Host: ts25-14.dublin.indigo.ie X-Newsreader: Forte Agent .99e/32.227 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6955 Is there a version of ms kermit that will allow the use of non standars com ports, ie higher than com 4 on a digiboard? thanks From news@columbia.edu Fri Apr 25 11:47:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA04748 for ; Fri, 25 Apr 1997 11:47:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA01569 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 25 Apr 1997 11:47:14 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: non standard com ports help Date: 25 Apr 1997 15:47:10 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 8 Message-ID: <5jqjlu$jgt$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <3360caff.4750156@NEWS.INDIGO.IE> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6956 In article <3360caff.4750156@NEWS.INDIGO.IE>, alan wrote: : Is there a version of ms kermit that will allow the use of non : standars com ports, ie higher than com 4 on a digiboard? : In the current version, which is 3.14, yes. See section 2 of the KERMIT.UPD on the MS-DOS Kermit 3.14 disk. - Frank From news@columbia.edu Fri Apr 25 14:15:27 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA05922 for ; Fri, 25 Apr 1997 14:15:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA09569 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 25 Apr 1997 14:15:25 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!news.msfc.nasa.gov!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cs.utexas.edu!news.cs.utah.edu!cc.usu.edu!jrd From: jrd@cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: File transfer confirmation Message-ID: <1997Apr25.115758.97416@cc.usu.edu> Date: 25 Apr 97 11:57:58 MDT References: <01bc5024$31423ac0$35c348c2@sbw> Organization: Utah State University Lines: 16 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6957 In article <01bc5024$31423ac0$35c348c2@sbw>, "Shaun Watters" writes: > Can anyone tell me if it's possible to have Kermit confirm files for > transfer, if using a wildcard get. (i.e. GET *.SCR - is it possible for > Kermit to prompt you for a yes or no as to wether to send this file or not. ---------- No. Let me explain because the Kermit protocol is unlike FTP. You can say SET FILE COLLISION ? to see what options are available when receiving a new file with the same name as an existing one. Option DISCARD rejects the new version, OVERWRITE accepts the new, and so on. TCP sends a complete list of files to the client, which is quite a memory problem, and then the client requests each file in turn from that list. In the middle of that operation the client can prompt you yes or no. The Kermit protocol avoids such lists and the file sender decides which file to send, one after the other, and the name of each is sent with each file. Thus the file sender is the only agent knowing which file will be sent next. Joe D. From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Sat Apr 26 08:03:43 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA13598 for ; Sat, 26 Apr 1997 08:03:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA19683 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sat, 26 Apr 1997 08:03:42 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news-peer.gsl.net!howland.erols.net!ais.net!news.stealth.net!news.dorsai.org!not-for-mail From: vjp2@dorsai.org@tam.dorsai.org (Vasos Panagiotopoulos +1-917-287-8087 Bioengineer-Financier Samani Marions Panyaught NYC-11357-3436-287-USA) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: non standard com ports help Date: 26 Apr 1997 12:08:16 GMT Organization: Samani Marions Panyaught NYC-11357-3436-287-USA Lines: 19 Message-ID: <5jsr7g$hf@kensie.dorsai.org> References: <3360caff.4750156@NEWS.INDIGO.IE> NNTP-Posting-Host: dorsai.dorsai.org X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 950824BETA PL0] Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6958 This brings up an old question that still has some life to it: I used to have (1985-95) an AMPRO 2210 80186 machine that had no keyboard or monitor thta I plugged into a 1980 HP2621A terminal. Nothing on that machine was bitmapped - it only used BIOS. While I could do "echo atdt3334444 > com1:", the then-current PC version of Kermit would not work, so I had to buy a special version put out by NightOwl (Wisconsin) called MeX (which was a good product BTW). Supposing I were to restart that old machine and wanted to have the same software I have on my new one - is there anyway I could use the current MSKermit on that old non-bit-mapped system? -- Vasos-Peter John Panagiotopoulos II, Columbia'81+, Bioengineer-Financier, NYC BachMozart ReaganQuayle EvrytanoKastorian http://WWW.Dorsai.Org/~vjp2 vjp2@{MCIMail.Com|CompuServe.Com|Dorsai.Org} ---{Nothing herein constitutes advice. Everything fully disclaimed.}--- From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Sat Apr 26 11:50:58 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA10565 for ; Sat, 26 Apr 1997 11:50:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA03055 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sat, 26 Apr 1997 11:50:58 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!sprint!cs.utexas.edu!news.cs.utah.edu!cc.usu.edu!jrd From: jrd@cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: help with a remote use of kermit please Message-ID: <1997Apr26.091613.97448@cc.usu.edu> Date: 26 Apr 97 09:16:13 MDT References: <33606ff6.1069011@NEWS.INDIGO.IE> Organization: Utah State University Lines: 23 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6959 In article <33606ff6.1069011@NEWS.INDIGO.IE>, offline@INDIGO.IE (alan) writes: > I am running wildcat v 4.11. I have setupa door so that a batch file > will run (I am trying to get it to run Kermit). The bbs is setup to > another system, the idea being that once a user dials in and selects > an item from the main menu, a batch file runs Kermit, allowing a > terminal session which echos back to the user . Kermit however has a > problem as it can only talk to comms 1-4. We need a dos terminal > emulation program that will support more tham comm ports 1 to 4, > preferably being able to communicate through a fossil driver fr the > digiboards. The bbs is therefore acting like a dumb termainal. If I am > directly using the bbs i can use kermit to create a terminal session, > but I dial in from another computer I can see Kermit running on the > bbs, so the batch file runs, but it stays local to the bbs. It does > not get echoed to my remote computer. The bbs is setup using > digiboards and the other system that is attached to the bbs is using > an Arnet smartport. This is basically a card with an external > attachment allowing 8 comm ports to be set up. > > Any help would be greatly appreciated. --------- Try MS-DOS Kermit v3.15 beta. Then say SET PORT FOSSIL <1..99>. The digits at the end select the port, from 1 to 99. Joe D. 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For more information please visit our web site at : http://www.australia.net.au/~apexpi/dynamail.htm ###################################################################### 2 Million E-Mail Addresses $35.95 Payment by: Visa, MasterCard, American Express http://www.tds.net/compurdy/2_million From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Sat Apr 26 21:02:59 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA18286 for ; Sat, 26 Apr 1997 21:02:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA08130 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sat, 26 Apr 1997 21:02:58 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsout1.alt.net!news1.alt.net!news.aros.net!news.cs.utah.edu!cc.usu.edu!jrd From: jrd@cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: non standard com ports help Message-ID: <1997Apr26.181813.97480@cc.usu.edu> Date: 26 Apr 97 18:18:13 MDT References: <3360caff.4750156@NEWS.INDIGO.IE> <5jsr7g$hf@kensie.dorsai.org> Organization: Utah State University Lines: 20 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6961 In article <5jsr7g$hf@kensie.dorsai.org>, vjp2@dorsai.org @smtp.dorsai.org (Vasos Panagiotopoulos +1-917-287-8087 writes> This brings up an old question that still has some life to it: > > I used to have (1985-95) an AMPRO 2210 80186 machine that had no > keyboard or monitor thta I plugged into a 1980 HP2621A > terminal. Nothing on that machine was bitmapped - it only used > BIOS. While I could do "echo atdt3334444 > com1:", the then-current PC > version of Kermit would not work, so I had to buy a special version > put out by NightOwl (Wisconsin) called MeX (which was a good product BTW). > > Supposing I were to restart that old machine and wanted to have the > same software I have on my new one - > is there anyway I could use the current MSKermit on that old > non-bit-mapped system? ---------- It's not worth it, give it up. While the current MS-DOS Kermit supports BIOS1..BIOS4 as communication pathways they are totally unsuited for work above 300 bps or so. Motherboards are very cheap these days, so I suggest treating the box to a new one, and the peripherials to go with it. Joe D. From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Mon Apr 28 16:18:34 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA19896 for ; Mon, 28 Apr 1997 16:18:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA02894 for kermit.misc@watsun; Mon, 28 Apr 1997 16:18:33 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!news-xfer.netaxs.com!news.voicenet.com!omni2!cmosley From: cmosley@voicenet.com (Christopher Mosley) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: APC Date: 28 Apr 1997 20:06:30 GMT Organization: Voicenet - Internet Access - (215)674-9290 Lines: 36 Message-ID: <5k3006$91u$1@news1.voicenet.com> References: <5jo31g$j0$1@news1.voicenet.com> <5jo541$dr4$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: omni2.voicenet.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6963 Frank da Cruz (fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu) wrote: : In article <5jo31g$j0$1@news1.voicenet.com>, : Christopher Mosley wrote: : : : : The apc escape mechanism ends by connecting you to the emulator : : rather than the mskermit prompt. It would be nice you to be returned to the : : mskermit prompt with the option of using the 'connect/c' at the end : : of the apc string or manually, or to do whatever you wished at the : : kermit prompt. The apc escape mechanism is a very useful as is : : but would be even more useful if it had this option. : : : C-Kermit 6.0, Kermit 95, and MS-DOS Kermit 3.15 have a new command, : CLEAR APC. If you include this in the APC string, then you will : be left at the prompt after execution of the APC commands. : - Frank Thanks, I was interested in *automatically* changing to non-standard video-modes. I did this by running a dos bat file from within the apc string that exits kermit with the use of a keyboard buffer stuffer, changes video-mode then runs and connects mskermit again. Video mode switching might not be of interest to anyone. But is interesting that rather than using a new dos shell for apc operations on the local machine you can exit and rerun kermit with the advantage that you have full pc memory. I find the APC mechanism very useful i.e.: you can use it with tin and lynx running on a remote unix host, to automatically view graphics using a dos viewer. cmosley From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Tue Apr 29 16:18:19 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA18845 for ; Tue, 29 Apr 1997 16:18:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA07532 for kermit.misc@watsun; Tue, 29 Apr 1997 16:18:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Foote Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Need help capturing text output Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 19:26:43 +0930 Organization: South Australian Linux Users Group Lines: 20 Message-ID: <3365C5DB.373053CB@salug.org.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: frog.senet.com.au Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (X11; I; Linux 2.0.30 i586) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news-xfer.netaxs.com!feed1.news.erols.com!news.ecn.uoknor.edu!munnari.OZ.AU!news.mel.connect.com.au!news.ade.connect.com.au!duster.adelaide.on.net!highlander.senet.com.au!usenet Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6964 Hello everyone. I am attempting to get output from a UV meter using Kermit. This UV Meter is connected via serial cable to a modem, and I have a Linux box runing Kermit attached to a modem which dials into the UV meter's modem. I can successfully execute commands on the UV meter in 'CONNECT' mode, and my script is almost working - but I don't know how to capture the output to a file. It seems that the 'log xxx' functions weren't designed for this purpose - although I could be wrong :-) I'm a Kermit newbie, so any help would be most appreciated. Chris Foote South Australian Linux Users Group chris@salug.org.au From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Tue Apr 29 20:07:08 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA26996 for ; Tue, 29 Apr 1997 20:07:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA23051 for kermit.misc@watsun; Tue, 29 Apr 1997 20:07:07 -0400 (EDT) From: arthur@gateway.dircsa.org.au (Arthur Marsh) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Need help capturing text output Date: 30 Apr 1997 01:34:45 +0930 Organization: DIRC - Disability Information & Resource Centre - Sth Australia Lines: 95 Message-ID: <5k566t$moj@gateway.dircsa.org.au> References: <3365C5DB.373053CB@salug.org.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: apache.dircsa.org.au X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8] Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!pacbell.com!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!munnari.OZ.AU!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!ns.saard.net!news.camtech.net.au!news.dircsa.org.au!news.dircsa.org.au!not-for-mail Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6965 Chris Foote (chris@salug.org.au) wrote: : Hello everyone. : I am attempting to get output from a UV meter using Kermit. This UV : Meter is connected via serial cable to a modem, and I have a Linux : box runing Kermit attached to a modem which dials into the UV meter's : modem. : I can successfully execute commands on the UV meter in 'CONNECT' mode, : and my script is almost working - but I don't know how to capture the : output to a file. : It seems that the 'log xxx' functions weren't designed for this : purpose - although I could be wrong :-) : I'm a Kermit newbie, so any help would be most appreciated. I do some logging by the following method: #!/bin/sh ps -ef|grep kermit|grep chat if [ $? -ne 0 ] then /home/arthur/chatlog.sh|/opt/bin/kermit -y /home/arthur/chatlog.ini >> /home/arthur/Mail/chat.log fi chatlog.sh looks like: #!/bin/sh while true do sleep 120 echo \*\*\* Chat Logging is in effect \*\*\* \\n\\r sleep 1 echo /data\\n\\r sleep 419 done You could instead have a shell script that just sleeps for the period you want logging done, and when the shell script terminates, so does kermit. chatlog.ini does the following: NOPUSH ;LOG SESSION /home/arthur/Mail/chat.log APPEND SET CARRIER ON 1 SET COMMAND BYTESIZE 8 SET EXIT WARNING OFF SET QUIET ON SET TERMINAL AUTODOWNLOAD OFF SET TERMINAL BYTESIZE 8 SET TERMINAL CHARACTER-SET TRANSPARENT SET TERMINAL ESCAPE DISABLED SET TERMINAL APC OFF SET PARITY NONE set line /dev/tty6 if fail goto endker SET SPEED 19200 SET FLOW RTS/CTS pause 1 output \13 pause 5 output Chat Log\13 pause 5 output cglog\13 pause 5 output \32 pause 5 output \32 pause 5 output \32 pause 5 output \32 pause 5 output C pause 5 output \32 pause 5 output O pause 5 output \32 pause 5 CONNECT :endker echo disconnecting... quit : Chris Foote : South Australian Linux Users Group : chris@salug.org.au -- Arthur Marsh, telephone +61-8-8370-2365, fax +61-8-8223-5082 arthur@dircsa.org.au .endofsig From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Wed Apr 30 12:17:49 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA07540 for ; Wed, 30 Apr 1997 12:17:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA10675 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 30 Apr 1997 12:17:47 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news-peer.gsl.net!hammer.uoregon.edu!zephyr.texoma.net!uunet!in2.uu.net!208.197.151.4!news.esinet.net!news1.cstone.net!newsfeed.slip.net!news.accessone.com!not-for-mail From: "poetryman" Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: problems using ckermit Date: 30 Apr 1997 15:12:59 GMT Organization: AccessOne Lines: 33 Message-ID: <01bc5579$07bc0e60$335ad5ce@carll.tfmg.com> Reply-To: "poetryman" NNTP-Posting-Host: ws51.tfmg.com X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1161 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6966 I use ckermit to do file transfers between a creaky old VAX and several VAXes and ALPHAs around North America. I've always been able to tweak the configurations of each to where my file transfers were successful, However, there is one site to which attemped transfers simply won't work when using ckermit. I can acheive the same transfer between the same 2 computers using an older version of kermit and using WRQ's Reflection protocol. My employer has directed me to make it work at this one site, rather than to use the alternate file transfer methods that do work. I have attempted to modify the following parameters: timeout (this gets me an error-out quicker) packet length (from 64 to 512) The following match on the 2 computers: speed (9600) mode (local) modem (hayes) terminal bits (7) parity (none) duplex (full) flow (xon/xoff) handshake (none) carrier (auto) names (converted) type (labeled) Actually, everything on the 2 computers matches; I only listed the ones that seem significant. Any ideas on how to make this succeed? From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Wed Apr 30 12:26:32 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA08878 for ; Wed, 30 Apr 1997 12:26:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA11187 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 30 Apr 1997 12:26:30 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Need help capturing text output Date: 30 Apr 1997 16:26:28 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 24 Message-ID: <5k7rrk$ath$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu> References: <3365C5DB.373053CB@salug.org.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6967 In article <3365C5DB.373053CB@salug.org.au>, Chris Foote wrote: : I am attempting to get output from a UV meter using Kermit. This UV : Meter is connected via serial cable to a modem, and I have a Linux : box runing Kermit attached to a modem which dials into the UV meter's : modem. : : I can successfully execute commands on the UV meter in 'CONNECT' mode, : and my script is almost working - but I don't know how to capture the : output to a file. : By "output", you mean the dialog between Kermit and the UV meter? : It seems that the 'log xxx' functions weren't designed for this : purpose - although I could be wrong :-) : Sure they were. LOG SESSION does the trick. If you mean something else, there is also a facility (described in the manual) for creating and writing to arbitrary files: OPEN WRITE, WRITE, CLOSE WRITE. You can also use the WRITE command to write arbitrary text to any open log. - Frank From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Wed Apr 30 12:31:58 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA10704 for ; Wed, 30 Apr 1997 12:31:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA11499 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 30 Apr 1997 12:31:57 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: problems using ckermit Date: 30 Apr 1997 16:31:56 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 47 Message-ID: <5k7s5s$b79$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu> References: <01bc5579$07bc0e60$335ad5ce@carll.tfmg.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6968 In article <01bc5579$07bc0e60$335ad5ce@carll.tfmg.com>, poetryman wrote: : I use ckermit to do file transfers between a creaky old VAX and several : VAXes and ALPHAs around North America. I've always been able to tweak the : configurations of each to where my file transfers were successful, : : However, there is one site to which attemped transfers simply won't work : when using ckermit. I can acheive the same transfer between the same 2 : computers using an older version of kermit and using WRQ's Reflection : protocol. : : My employer has directed me to make it work at this one site, rather than : to use the alternate file transfer methods that do work. : : I have attempted to modify the following parameters: : timeout (this gets me an error-out quicker) : packet length (from 64 to 512) : : The following match on the 2 computers: : speed (9600) : mode (local) : modem (hayes) : terminal bits (7) : parity (none) : duplex (full) : flow (xon/xoff) : handshake (none) : carrier (auto) : names (converted) : type (labeled) : : Actually, everything on the 2 computers matches; I only listed the ones : that seem significant. : : Any ideas on how to make this succeed? : Yes. Please send your question by email to kermit-support@columbia.edu, and specify exactly what you mean by "transfers simply won't work". What are the symptoms? What version of VMS? What version of C-Kermit? Are you transferring from the VAX or to the VAX? What software are you using on the PC? What kind of file is it? etc etc. Tell C-Kermit to "log packets" and include a session log. - Frank From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Wed Apr 30 13:55:08 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA28260 for ; Wed, 30 Apr 1997 13:55:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA17329 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 30 Apr 1997 13:55:07 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!solaris.cc.vt.edu!news.seanet.com!news From: "David H. Herget" Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: wy60 - screen graphics - help Date: Wed, 30 Apr 1997 10:48:00 -0700 Organization: Seanet Online Services, Seattle WA Lines: 15 Message-ID: <336785D0.3F73@seanet.com> Reply-To: dherget@seanet.com NNTP-Posting-Host: p15.dialup.seanet.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6969 Kermit 95 seems to work as a terminal emulator and all the function keys work . unlike other emulators. BUT... the screen is filled with ------ instead of solid horizontal lines and = = = instead of solid vertical lines. How can we make the screen display ... the lines correctly.??? Thank you, David H. Herget dherget@seanet.com From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Thu May 1 05:01:49 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA28445 for ; Thu, 1 May 1997 05:01:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA14132 for kermit.misc@watsun; Thu, 1 May 1997 05:01:48 -0400 (EDT) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.eecs.umich.edu!news.radio.cz!newsbastard.radio.cz!news.radio.cz!CESspool!europa.clark.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!sprint!ix.netcom.com!cutt From: cutt@netcom.com (Paul S. Cutt) Subject: HELP Please ! ckermit & web Message-ID: Organization: Netcom On-Line Services X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Date: Thu, 1 May 1997 08:26:20 GMT Lines: 18 Sender: cutt@netcom.netcom.com Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6971 I am trying to use kermit and have it called from a web page. The problem seems to be getting the kermit prompt. I can call kermit but then I get an divide by zero error from kermit. I think the prompts from kermit are causing it ? How can I call kermit from a web page ? I am using Windows NT k95 -j 122.23.111.23:1000 -s test.file as my command in my cgi-bin directory. Thanks, paul From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Thu May 1 13:00:53 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA07718 for ; Thu, 1 May 1997 13:00:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA15828 for kermit.misc@watsun; Thu, 1 May 1997 13:00:50 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!daily.bbnplanet.com!not-for-mail From: BBN Corporation Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: consulting position Date: Thu, 01 May 1997 12:45:51 -0400 Organization: BBN Corporation Lines: 8 Message-ID: <3368C8BF.193D@bbn.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: chamwey.bbn.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Win95; U) Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6972 Can I post a position for a routing protocols consultant to work on a high speed internet router at this site?? Corinne Hamwey BBN Corporation 10 Moulton Street Cambridge, MA email chamwey@bbn.com From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Thu May 1 20:59:03 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA07752 for ; Thu, 1 May 1997 20:59:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA18168 for kermit.misc@watsun; Thu, 1 May 1997 20:59:03 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!sprint!cs.utexas.edu!news.cs.utah.edu!cc.usu.edu!jrd From: jrd@cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: consulting position Message-ID: <1997May1.181707.97699@cc.usu.edu> Date: 1 May 97 18:17:07 MDT References: <3368C8BF.193D@bbn.com> Organization: Utah State University Lines: 13 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6973 In article <3368C8BF.193D@bbn.com>, BBN Corporation writes: > Can I post a position for a routing protocols consultant to work on a > high speed internet router at this site?? > > Corinne Hamwey > BBN Corporation > 10 Moulton Street > Cambridge, MA > email chamwey@bbn.com --------- No. This is a Kermit forum, not jobs.wanted, nor comp.protocols.tcpip. Sorry Corinne, please look elsewhere. Joe D. From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Fri May 2 10:59:14 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA19534 for ; Fri, 2 May 1997 10:59:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA25716 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 2 May 1997 10:59:13 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!newsgate.nytimes.com!newsfeeds.sol.net!uwm.edu!news.he.net!AesSedai.wes.army.mil!goo.npd.usace.army.mil!news From: "Ralph M. Almeria" Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Having trouble setting the line option. Date: Fri, 02 May 1997 07:36:04 -0700 Organization: Corps of Engineers, North Pacific Division Lines: 13 Message-ID: <3369FB7C.7BD@usace.army.mil> NNTP-Posting-Host: nppwm1.npp.usace.army.mil Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; SunOS 5.3 sun4m) Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6974 My problem is that I set the modem to attmodem and then the line to /dev/tty and then I try to set the baud or dial and it returns saying that I need to set the line! What am I doing wrong? I've used tip to dial out and that works fine, but I need a solution that can be used in a batch mode, and apparently tip is not amenable to batch. Any help is appreciated. Thanks, Ralph. From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Fri May 2 11:12:02 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA21970 for ; Fri, 2 May 1997 11:12:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA26763 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 2 May 1997 11:12:01 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Having trouble setting the line option. Date: 2 May 1997 15:11:59 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 25 Message-ID: <5kd07v$q3t$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu> References: <3369FB7C.7BD@usace.army.mil> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6975 In article <3369FB7C.7BD@usace.army.mil>, Ralph M. Almeria wrote: : My problem is that I set the modem to attmodem and then the line to : /dev/tty and then I try to set the baud or dial and it returns saying : that I need to set the line! What am I doing wrong? : "/dev/tty" is your job's own controlling terminal. You need to specify the device name of a tty device separate from your job's controlling terminal. That is, you can't dial out on the same device that you are coming in from. : I've used tip to dial out and that works fine, but I need a solution : that can be used in a batch mode, and apparently tip is not amenable to : batch. : C-Kermit is designed to be fully script-driven so it can run completely unattended, e.g. from a cron job. The current version is 6.0: http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/ck60.html To make effective use of it -- especially if you want to write "batch jobs", you'll need the manual: http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/ck60manual.html - Frank From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Fri May 2 12:41:55 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA10997 for ; Fri, 2 May 1997 12:41:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA03046 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 2 May 1997 12:41:54 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news-peer.gsl.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!howland.erols.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!ux2.cso.uiuc.edu!shair From: rmshair@uiuc.edu (Bob Shair) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Having trouble setting the line option. Date: 2 May 1997 16:22:46 GMT Organization: Bob Shair Consulting Lines: 38 Message-ID: <5kd4cm$9r3@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <3369FB7C.7BD@usace.army.mil> NNTP-Posting-Host: ux2.cso.uiuc.edu Originator: shair@ux2.cso.uiuc.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6976 "Ralph M. Almeria" writes: >My problem is that I set the modem to attmodem and then the line to >/dev/tty and then I try to set the baud or dial and it returns saying >that I need to set the line! What am I doing wrong? > Not saying what your operating environment is, nor what version of Kermit you're running. Oh! What are you doing wrong when you try to RUN Kermit? It sounds as if you're trying to run C-Kermit under some version of Unix. The versions I've used require you to specify a specific tty number, not /dev/tty. >From HP-UX 9.x ls -l /dev/tty* | head crw-rw-rw- 1 bin other 31 0x000000 May 2 11:06 /dev/tty crw--w--w- 1 root other 58 0x000000 Apr 29 07:12 /dev/tty0p0 crw--w--w- 1 root other 58 0x000001 Apr 29 07:12 /dev/tty0p1 >From AIX 3.2.5 crw-rw-rw- 1 root system 1, 0 May 1 20:44 /dev/tty crw------- 1 root system 16, 0 May 2 11:18 /dev/tty0 crw------- 1 root system 16, 1 May 16 1996 /dev/tty1 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root system 10 Sep 7 1993 /dev/ttyp0 -> /dev/pts/0 On the latter system, I can say either set line /dev/tty0 (or just set line 0) or set line /dev/tty1, to select a real tty device. The rest are dummys. -- Bob Shair Open Systems Consultant 1018 W. Springfield Avenue rmshair@uiuc.edu Champaign, IL 61821 217/356-2684 < Not employed by or representing the University of Illinois > From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Fri May 2 20:26:24 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA16478 for ; Fri, 2 May 1997 20:26:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA03978 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 2 May 1997 20:26:24 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!Sprint!news-west.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-stk-11.sprintlink.net!news.webIT.eds.com!hobbes.tad.eds.com!maverick.tad.eds.com!news-admin@tad.eds.com From: Roy Buzdor Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: HP Terminal Emulation? Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 10:58:19 -0700 Organization: EDS Lansing Fab Lines: 11 Message-ID: <336636BB.1367@edx.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 130.173.130.137 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Win16; I) Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6978 I use Kermit (3.00) and Kermit for Windows (Win 100) to attach to an HP-1000. I must set my HP-1000 port to perform XON/XOFF flow control, rather than its standard ENQ/ACK. Is there a way to set kermit up to perform ENQ/ACK rather than XON/XOFF flow control? I know in Kermit 3.13 there is an "answerback" parameter which is supposed to do ENQ/ACK. Does it work? Is there any way to do it in v 3.00? Can the key translations be twisted to perform this function? Buz From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Fri May 2 20:32:14 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA18702 for ; Fri, 2 May 1997 20:32:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA04292 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 2 May 1997 20:32:13 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: HP Terminal Emulation? Date: 3 May 1997 00:32:13 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 36 Message-ID: <5ke12d$462$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu> References: <336636BB.1367@edx.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6979 In article <336636BB.1367@edx.com>, Roy Buzdor wrote: : I use Kermit (3.00) and Kermit for Windows (Win 100) to : attach to an HP-1000. : What's Win 100? : I must set my HP-1000 port to : perform XON/XOFF flow control, rather than its standard : ENQ/ACK. : Correct. : Is there a way to set kermit up to perform : ENQ/ACK rather than XON/XOFF flow control? : No. : I know in : Kermit 3.13 there is an "answerback" parameter which is : supposed to do ENQ/ACK. : That's not flow control -- that's the answerback feature, similar to what you would get on a Model 33 Teletype by breaking selected teeth off the little plastic wheel -- kind of a station ID. : Does it work? Is there any : way to do it in v 3.00? Can the key translations be : twisted to perform this function? : No, sorry, you'll need to stick with Xon/Xoff, which is pretty much the universally accepted protocol for in-band flow control; Enq/Ack is peculiar to HP. If Xon/Xoff works why would you want to change it? - Frank From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Sun May 4 07:27:12 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA05927 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 07:27:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA18705 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sun, 4 May 1997 07:27:10 -0400 (EDT) From: behoffski@grouse.com.au (behoffski) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: NULs and [MS-DOS, sigh] Kermit Date: Sat, 03 May 1997 03:54:06 GMT X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp48.adelaide.on.net.au Message-ID: <336ac4b2.0@duster.adelaide.on.net> Lines: 24 Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!feed1.news.erols.com!news.ecn.uoknor.edu!munnari.OZ.AU!news.mel.connect.com.au!news.ade.connect.com.au!duster.adelaide.on.net!ppp48.adelaide.on.net.au Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6981 We're using MS-DOS Kermit, version 3.15 Beta 18, to observe the behaviour of various embedded systems. In a couple of cases recently, we've discovered glitches in the embedded systems due to the NUL character being sent or received by an ASCII-based protocol driver. We've noticed that Kermit's VT320 emulation does not display NULs by default, nor are these characters logged to file. The lack of a display does not worry us; the lack of the character in the log file has helped trick us into missing the problems for quite a while. If session debugging is enabled (set debug session), then NULs are displayed and are logged. However, we'd prefer to use a standard VT-style terminal emulation without seeing debugging information. Is there an easy way to modify Kermit's behaviour so that NULs are always logged to file? thanks, behoffski -- Brenton Hoff (behoffski) | Software Engineer, Grouse Software Pty Ltd behoffski@grouse.com.au | My opinions are mine (and they're weird). From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Sun May 4 13:49:01 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA09928 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 13:49:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA02912 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sun, 4 May 1997 13:49:01 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cs.utexas.edu!news.cs.utah.edu!cc.usu.edu!jrd From: jrd@cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: NULs and [MS-DOS, sigh] Kermit Message-ID: <1997May4.110329.97781@cc.usu.edu> Date: 4 May 97 11:03:29 MDT References: <336ac4b2.0@duster.adelaide.on.net> Organization: Utah State University Lines: 45 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6982 In article <336ac4b2.0@duster.adelaide.on.net>, behoffski@grouse.com.au (behoffski) writes: > We're using MS-DOS Kermit, version 3.15 Beta 18, to observe the > behaviour of various embedded systems. In a couple of cases recently, > we've discovered glitches in the embedded systems due to the NUL > character being sent or received by an ASCII-based protocol driver. > > We've noticed that Kermit's VT320 emulation does not display > NULs by default, nor are these characters logged to file. That is correct. NUL is a control code. The first 32 codes in the ASCII character set are control codes and are not printable. Most control codes result in commands to the terminal (emulator) to perform some action rather than just display a byte. For DEC VT terminals the action of NUL is to consume time as a line-filler byte, padding as it is known. Putting padding into log files is not a good idea and MSK avoids doing that. For Data General and Wyse 50 terminals NUL is a formal data byte in control sequences and not padding, hence it is logged as well as acted upon for those emulations. > The lack of > a display does not worry us; the lack of the character in the log file > has helped trick us into missing the problems for quite a while. > > If session debugging is enabled (set debug session), then NULs > are displayed and are logged. However, we'd prefer to use a standard > VT-style terminal emulation without seeing debugging information. > Is there an easy way to modify Kermit's behaviour so that NULs are > always logged to file? The DEBUG facility bypasses the machinery responsible for emulating various terminal types. It is a raw simple "show me everything" diagnostic, and as such is aligned with what your testing is intended to accomplish. Given the decreasing amounts of equipment which generate as well as need NUL padding bytes I'll change the next beta of MS-DOS Kermit 3.15 to log the NUL byte for DEC VT terminal emulation and hope there are no objections. Expect to see the change in beta 21 in a few days. Joe D. > thanks, > > behoffski > Brenton Hoff (behoffski) | Software Engineer, Grouse Software Pty Ltd > behoffski@grouse.com.au | My opinions are mine (and they're weird). From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Sun May 4 21:48:32 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA25379 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 21:48:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA04138 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sun, 4 May 1997 21:48:28 -0400 (EDT) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!Sprint!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-dc-9.sprintlink.net!NEWS!not-for-mail From: Great Sites Subject: Metrics Message-ID: <527cd$152f23.29f@NEWS> Date: Sat, 03 May 1997 02:47:35 GMT Reply-To: Great Sites Lines: 2 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6983 Great Site URL:http://www.psrinc.com/metsys.htm From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Sun May 4 22:16:06 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA28448 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 22:16:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA05835 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sun, 4 May 1997 22:16:05 -0400 (EDT) From: stefand@ibm.net (Stefan A. Deutscher) Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.comm,comp.sys.laptops,comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: [Q] Null modem, Kermit/2, Thinkpad, desktop ? Organization: Lunatic asylum Reply-To: sad@utk.edu X-Newsreader: slrn (0.9.3.2 OS/2) NNTP-Posting-Host: 166.72.129.154 Message-ID: <336cf6dc.0@news1.ibm.net> Date: 4 May 97 20:51:40 GMT Lines: 58 Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!newsfeed.nacamar.de!newsfeed.de.ibm.net!ibm.net!news-m01.ny.us.ibm.net!ibm.net!news1.ibm.net!stefand Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.os.os2.comm:13149 comp.sys.laptops:118627 comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6984 hi, I am just setting up a Thinkpad 365xd with OS/2 Warp 4 and had hoped to use the Kermit/2 XSend command to just dump all the stuff I need from my desktop machine onto the laptop using a null modem cable. Somehow it doesn't work, the two machines don't see each other, it seems. I have disabled the IR port on the TP, set the serial port to com2. On the desktop I have the serial port on com1. The null modem cable is 9 pin, with the following pin layout: female male 1 4 2 3 3 2 4 6 and 1 5 5 6 4 7 8 8 7 9 n/c yet nothing goes. I tried, following the Kermit/2 book, to set set carrier-watch off set line com2 (or com1 on the desktop) set speed 115200 and then set the receiving laptop kermit into 'server' mode, where it sits waiting. However, no matter what I do from the sending kermit, it doesn't seem to communicate. I also used the mode command to set the com port parameters to baud = 115200 parity = NONE databits = 7 stopbits = 1 TO = OFF XON = OFF IDSR = OFF ODSR = OFF OCTS = OFF DTR = OFF RTS = OFF BUFFER = ON on both machines (I tried 8 data bits as well), nothing. I am running out of ideas; does anybody have some? I am surely not the first one to try that, so I'd appreciate any help! Thanks! Stefan -- ============================================================================ Stefan A. 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From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Sun May 4 23:18:58 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA06322 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 23:18:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA09631 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sun, 4 May 1997 23:18:57 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!jaltman From: jaltman@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Jeffrey Altman) Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.comm,comp.sys.laptops,comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: [Q] Null modem, Kermit/2, Thinkpad, desktop ? Date: 5 May 1997 03:18:54 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 70 Message-ID: <5kjjiu$9ct$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu> References: <336cf6dc.0@news1.ibm.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.os.os2.comm:13151 comp.sys.laptops:118632 comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6985 In article <336cf6dc.0@news1.ibm.net>, Stefan A. Deutscher wrote: : : hi, : : I am just setting up a Thinkpad 365xd with OS/2 Warp 4 and had hoped to : use the Kermit/2 XSend command to just dump all the stuff I need from : my desktop machine onto the laptop using a null modem cable. Somehow it : doesn't work, the two machines don't see each other, it seems. This will work. : I have disabled the IR port on the TP, set the serial port to com2. : On the desktop I have the serial port on com1. The null modem cable is : 9 pin, with the following pin layout: : : female male : : 1 4 : 2 3 : 3 2 : 4 6 and 1 : 5 5 : 6 4 : 7 8 : 8 7 : 9 n/c : : yet nothing goes. I tried, following the Kermit/2 book, to set : : set carrier-watch off : set line com2 (or com1 on the desktop) : set speed 115200 What about flow control? SET FLOW RTS on both machines. : and then set the receiving laptop kermit into 'server' mode, where it : sits waiting. However, no matter what I do from the sending kermit, it : doesn't seem to communicate. Start with something simple. When you enter CONNECT mode on both machines and type data, are you able to see anything on the other machine? : I also used the mode command to set the com port parameters to : : baud = 115200 parity = NONE : databits = 7 stopbits = 1 : TO = OFF XON = OFF : IDSR = OFF ODSR = OFF : OCTS = OFF DTR = OFF : RTS = OFF BUFFER = ON : : on both machines (I tried 8 data bits as well), nothing. I am running : out of ideas; does anybody have some? I am surely not the first one to : try that, so I'd appreciate any help! the mode command only sets up the initial values for the port. But they will be overridden by commands issued from within Kermit. Are you sure that both ports are working? Are you able to use them to communicate with a modem? Jeffrey Altman * Sr.Software Designer * Kermit-95 for Win32 and OS/2 The Kermit Project * Columbia University 612 West 115th St #716 * New York, NY * 10025 * (212) 854-1344 http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/k95.html * kermit-support@columbia.edu From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Mon May 5 02:48:18 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA11429 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 02:48:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA21792 for kermit.misc@watsun; Mon, 5 May 1997 02:48:17 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!disgorge.news.demon.net!demon!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!mail2news.demon.co.uk!microvst.demon.co.uk!tgold From: tgold@microvst.demon.co.uk ("Anthony R. Gold") Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.comm,comp.sys.laptops,comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: [Q] Null modem, Kermit/2, Thinkpad, desktop ? Date: Mon, 05 May 97 06:17:35 GMT Organization: Microvest Limited, New York Message-ID: <862813055snz@microvst.demon.co.uk> References: <336cf6dc.0@news1.ibm.net> Reply-To: tgold@panix.com X-Mail2News-User: tgold@microvst.demon.co.uk X-Mail2News-Path: host.com X-Newsreader: Demon Internet Simple News v1.30 Lines: 19 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.os.os2.comm:13157 comp.sys.laptops:118643 comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6987 In article <336cf6dc.0@news1.ibm.net> sad@utk.edu "Stefan A. Deutscher" writes: > On the desktop I have the serial port on com1. The null modem cable is > 9 pin, with the following pin layout: > > female male I have no idea what you're doing but you've definitely left the tracks somewhere. A serial null modem cable must have two sockets (female connectors) to marry the plugs which are on each of the two computers. BTW a parallel (null printer?) cable will have two plugs. In DOS type `help interlnk' and in Notes you will find the wiring recipe for both types of cable. Regards, -- Tony - G3SKR / W2TG email: tgold@panix.com From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Mon May 5 14:06:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA11335 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 14:06:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA08142 for kermit.misc@watsun; Mon, 5 May 1997 14:06:06 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!psinntp!howland.erols.net!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-feed4.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!utk.edu!utkux4!sad From: sad@utkux.utcc.utk.edu (Deutscher) Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.comm,comp.sys.laptops,comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: [Q] Null modem, Kermit/2, Thinkpad, desktop ? Followup-To: comp.os.os2.comm,comp.sys.laptops,comp.protocols.kermit.misc Date: 5 May 1997 15:58:38 GMT Organization: University of Tennessee Lines: 35 Message-ID: <5kl03e$ce2$1@gaia.ns.utk.edu> References: <336cf6dc.0@news1.ibm.net> <862813055snz@microvst.demon.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: utkux4.utcc.utk.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.os.os2.comm:13162 comp.sys.laptops:118686 comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6988 Anthony R. Gold (tgold@microvst.demon.co.uk) wrote: : In article <336cf6dc.0@news1.ibm.net> sad@utk.edu "Stefan A. Deutscher" writes: : > On the desktop I have the serial port on com1. The null modem cable is : > 9 pin, with the following pin layout: : > : > female male : I have no idea what you're doing but you've definitely left the : tracks somewhere. A serial null modem cable must have two sockets : (female connectors) to marry the plugs which are on each of the two : computers. BTW a parallel (null printer?) cable will have two plugs. Well, I have a serial cable with two female connectors and a nullmodem adapter with a male and a femal to fit the cable and still have the resulting construct be female <----> female on both ends. Stefan : In DOS type `help interlnk' and in Notes you will find the wiring : recipe for both types of cable. : Regards, : -- : Tony - G3SKR / W2TG email: tgold@panix.com -- ======================================================================== Stefan A. Deutscher, sad@utk.edu, (001)-423-[522-7845|974-7838|574-5897] home^ UTK^ ORNL^ ======================================================================== If there is software you'd like to have in a native OS/2 version, visit the: OS/2 E-mail Campaign Page http://www.andrews.edu/~boyko/email.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Tue May 6 00:40:43 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA27828 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 00:40:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA10866 for kermit.misc@watsun; Tue, 6 May 1997 00:40:42 -0400 (EDT) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!ix.netcom.com!georgeb From: georgeb@netcom.com (George H. Bosworth) Subject: Not Disconnecting -- Why? Message-ID: Followup-To: Poster Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 04:39:19 GMT Lines: 38 Sender: georgeb@netcom8.netcom.com Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6989 I moved from SVR4/386 to Solaris 2.5, with the same Supra FAXmodem 288, and now do not disconnect from a remote service. The sequence is: [quit remote service, logout messages] Connection closed. [message as before] NO CARRIER [new message] Process is hung [new; modem's red TR light stays on] Anny ideas? Thanks -- George &v ACTIVE PROFILE: B1 E1 L2 M1 N1 Q0 T V1 W0 X4 Y0 %C3 %E0 %G1 -K0 &C1 &D2 &K0 &Q5 &R1 &S0 &X0 &Y0 S00:000 S01:000 S02:043 S03:013 S04:010 S05:008 S06:002 S07:060 S08:002 S09:012 S10:014 S11:095 S12:050 S18:000 S23:063 S25:005 S26:001 S36:007 S37:000 S38:020 S40:104 S41:131 S44:131 S46:138 S48:007 S91:010 S95:000 S109:062 S110:014 # Kermit initialization file by George set prompt Susan-Kermit> set quiet on set modem hayes ; OK for Supra set line /dev/term/a ; Modem device set speed 38400 ; Supra is max 28,800 set parity none ; For binary files set terminal bytesize 8 set file type binary ; To transfer binaries OK set file name literal ; Preserve orignal name set receive packet-length 2048 ; Size of one packet set send packet-length 2048 ; Ditto, other way set window 4 ; Send 4 packets before reply set block-check 2 ; Set 2-char, 12-bit checksum define mult for \%i 1 10 1 { wait 1, dial \%1, xif success { echo , connect, stop } } define netcom do mult 328-9940 define netcom.sj do mult 1-408-261-4700 define netcom.sf do mult 985-5650 From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Tue May 6 05:45:17 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA14712 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 05:45:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA26235 for kermit.misc@watsun; Tue, 6 May 1997 05:45:16 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.eecs.umich.edu!news.radio.cz!news.maxwell.syr.edu!howland.erols.net!math.ohio-state.edu!jussieu.fr!rain.fr!archimedia.fr!usenet From: "Support Technique (Dept TQM)" Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Strange behaviour of string '^!' Date: 6 May 1997 10:34:04 GMT Organization: SEI-FAGOR Lines: 21 Message-ID: <01bc59fe$1ef0e400$14c0cec2@TQM.SEIDEV> NNTP-Posting-Host: ligneb10.archimedia.fr X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6990 With a particular configuration SCO Release 5 - Kermit 6.0.192 Beta.026 and MS DOS - Kermit 3.14 , I'm not able to communicate. With logs I've seen that the server (sur SCO) doesnt read the string '^!' that is wrote in the packet emitted. Who is the responsible ? one of the modem ? SCO ? kermit on the server ? I'm sure the string is emitted (I've a local analyser). I've similar configurations that work correctly. I think there is a parameter (modem/OS/kermit ?) but I'don't know which parameter ? Thanks for yous ideas. Xavier Cabantous tqm@seifagor.archimedia.fr From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Tue May 6 11:05:57 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA19603 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 11:05:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA12775 for kermit.misc@watsun; Tue, 6 May 1997 11:05:56 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news-peer.gsl.net!portc01.blue.aol.com!audrey02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: gandvs@aol.com (GandVS) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Divide overflow error Date: 6 May 1997 14:58:29 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Lines: 5 Message-ID: <19970506145700.KAA05693@ladder01.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder01.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6991 Has anyone heard of MS-Kermit returning a 'divide overflow error' when started on a PC using a Pentium Pro processor? It has worked fine on a Pentium, but gives this error as soon as it is started on the Pentium Pro. Greg Smith From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Tue May 6 11:16:17 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA21565 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 11:16:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA13270 for kermit.misc@watsun; Tue, 6 May 1997 11:16:16 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc,comp.unix.solaris Subject: Re: Kermit Not Disconnecting -- Why? Date: 6 May 1997 15:16:16 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 53 Distribution: inet Message-ID: <5kni00$qcp$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6992 comp.unix.solaris:119700 In article , George H. Bosworth wrote: : I moved from SVR4/386 to Solaris 2.5, with the same Supra FAXmodem 288, : and now do not disconnect from a remote service. The sequence is: : : [quit remote service, logout messages] : : Connection closed. [message as before] : : NO CARRIER [new message] : : Process is hung [new; modem's red TR light stays on] : : Anny ideas? Thanks -- George : Try using the current version of C-Kermit, 6.0: http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/ck60.html : # Kermit initialization file by George : set prompt Susan-Kermit> : set quiet on : set modem hayes ; OK for Supra : C-Kermit 6.0 has a built-in Supra modem type. : set line /dev/term/a ; Modem device : set speed 38400 ; Supra is max 28,800 : What about flow control? You should be using RTS/CTS with the Supra. C-Kermit 6.0 does this automatically. : set parity none ; For binary files : set terminal bytesize 8 : set file type binary ; To transfer binaries OK : set file name literal ; Preserve orignal name : set receive packet-length 2048 ; Size of one packet : set send packet-length 2048 ; Ditto, other way : set window 4 ; Send 4 packets before reply : set block-check 2 ; Set 2-char, 12-bit checksum : define mult - : for \%i 1 10 1 { wait 1, dial \%1, xif success { echo, connect, stop } } : C-Kermit 6.0 redials automatically. : define netcom do mult 328-9940 : define netcom.sj do mult 1-408-261-4700 : define netcom.sf do mult 985-5650 : C-Kermit 6.0 allows you to enter multiple for the same service in your dialing directory and tries each one in turn automatically. - Frank From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Tue May 6 11:22:40 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA22637 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 11:22:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA13656 for kermit.misc@watsun; Tue, 6 May 1997 11:22:39 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Strange behaviour of string '^!' Date: 6 May 1997 15:22:37 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 42 Message-ID: <5knibt$qr1$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <01bc59fe$1ef0e400$14c0cec2@TQM.SEIDEV> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6993 In article <01bc59fe$1ef0e400$14c0cec2@TQM.SEIDEV>, Support Technique (Dept TQM) wrote: : : With a particular configuration SCO Release 5 - Kermit 6.0.192 Beta.026 and : MS DOS - Kermit 3.14 , I'm not able to communicate. : How about C-Kermit 6.0 (not Beta)? Please obtain the final release version, and make sure it is the one that is built specifically for SCO OSR5: http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/ck60.html : With logs I've seen that the server (sur SCO) doesnt read the string '^!' : that is wrote in the packet emitted. : I am not sure what you mean by '^!'. Is this an ordinary string, or is it supposed to be a control character? (This is not a totally stupid question -- The conventions for assigning control characters to punctuation keys are different in different countries.) : Who is the responsible ? : one of the modem ? : SCO ? : kermit on the server ? : : I'm sure the string is emitted (I've a local analyser). : I've similar configurations that work correctly. : I think there is a parameter (modem/OS/kermit ?) but I'don't know which : parameter ? : If it is a control character, tell Kermit to "set prefixing none". This will ensure that all control characters are escaped (quoted). If it is truly a string (circumflux character followed by exlamation mark), then I think there must be something in the path between the two Kermit programs (a modem? a terminal server? another host?) that uses '^!' as an escape sequence. In that case, you must (a) set the device to allow this sequence to pass through transparently, or (b) use Kermit's "set send double-char" command to send two copies of the '^' character for every one that is in the data stream. Choice (b) will work if the non-transparent intermediate device passes one copy of '^' if it receives two consecutively. - Frank From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Tue May 6 13:51:55 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA28014 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 13:51:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA21205 for kermit.misc@watsun; Tue, 6 May 1997 13:51:50 -0400 (EDT) From: arthur@gateway.dircsa.org.au (Arthur Marsh) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: serial - network - serial connection Date: 7 May 1997 03:13:23 +0930 Organization: DIRC - Disability Information & Resource Centre - Sth Australia Lines: 88 Message-ID: <5knqjr$q1n@gateway.dircsa.org.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: apache.dircsa.org.au X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8] Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!europa.clark.net!feed1.news.erols.com!news.ecn.uoknor.edu!munnari.OZ.AU!news.mel.connect.com.au!news.ade.connect.com.au!duster.adelaide.on.net!news.camtech.net.au!news.dircsa.org.au!news.dircsa.org.au!not-for-mail Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6994 Hi, I'm trying to set up a serial - network - serial connection using C-Kermit 6.0.192 and UnixWare 1.1.2. The object is to get an 8-bit transparent connection that goes away when either serial connection closes, and successfully tranfers data otherwise. I'm trying everything on the one machine to begin with: First serial connection (controling terminal): Logs on, runs the following script: NOPUSH SET CARRIER ON 1 SET COMMAND BYTESIZE 8 SET EXIT WARNING OFF SET QUIET ON SET TERMINAL AUTODOWNLOAD OFF SET TERMINAL BYTESIZE 8 SET TERMINAL CHARACTER-SET TRANSPARENT SET TERMINAL ESCAPE DISABLED SET TERMINAL APC OFF SET PARITY NONE SET NETWORK TCP/IP SET TELNET BINARY REQUESTED SET TELNET BUG BINARY-ME-MEANS-U-TOO ON SET HOST LOCALHOST CONNECT stty -a output on the controlling terminal when using the above except push enabled, and push'd to the shell: speed 38400 baud; intr = ^c; quit = ^|; erase = ^h; kill = ^u; eof = ^d; eol = ; eol2 = ; swtch = ; start = ^q; stop = ^s; susp = ^z; dsusp = ; rprnt = ^r; flush = ^o; werase = ^w; lnext = ^v; -parenb -parodd cs8 -cstopb hupcl cread -clocal -loblk -parext -ignbrk brkint ignpar -parmrk -inpck istrip -inlcr -igncr icrnl -iuclc -ixon -ixany -ixoff -imaxbel isig icanon -xcase echo echoe echok -echonl -noflsh -tostop -echoctl -echoprt -echoke -defecho -flusho -pendin -iexten opost -olcuc onlcr -ocrnl -onocr -onlret -ofill -ofdel tab3 rtsxoff ctsxon -dtrxoff -cdxon -isxoff xcibrg rcibrg tsetcoff rsetcoff -isscancode Stallion bccstty -v -d /dev/tty0 output on the controlling terminal: (board=0,panel=0,major=98,minor=128,stubindex=0) rtslock ctslock -maprts -mapcts -dtrfollow -fakedcd -modem onboard -ioctlwait timeout=60 -rxthold -halfstop -loopback baudfrom=0 baudto=0 (device is not a session errno=5) A login is performed that runs the following kermit script (leaving out error-checking): NOPUSH SET CARRIER ON 1 SET COMMAND BYTESIZE 8 SET EXIT WARNING OFF SET QUIET ON SET TERMINAL AUTODOWNLOAD OFF SET TERMINAL BYTESIZE 8 SET TERMINAL CHARACTER-SET TRANSPARENT SET TERMINAL ESCAPE DISABLED SET TERMINAL APC OFF SET PARITY NONE set line /dev/tty2 hangup hangup set line /dev/tty2 SET SPEED 19200 SET FLOW RTS/CTS pause 1 output \13 connect clear hangup hangup quit This appears to generally work, allowing 8-bit transparent connections with adequate flow control, but I'm open to suggestions on improving it. -- Arthur Marsh, telephone +61-8-8370-2365, fax +61-8-8223-5082 arthur@dircsa.org.au .endofsig From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Tue May 6 14:05:10 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA00788 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 14:05:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA22007 for kermit.misc@watsun; Tue, 6 May 1997 14:05:10 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: serial - network - serial connection Date: 6 May 1997 18:05:09 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 81 Message-ID: <5knrsl$7ml$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <5knqjr$q1n@gateway.dircsa.org.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6995 In article <5knqjr$q1n@gateway.dircsa.org.au>, Arthur Marsh wrote: : Hi, I'm trying to set up a serial - network - serial connection using : C-Kermit 6.0.192 and UnixWare 1.1.2. The object is to get an 8-bit : transparent connection that goes away when either serial connection closes, : and successfully tranfers data otherwise. : : I'm trying everything on the one machine to begin with: : : First serial connection (controling terminal): : : Logs on, runs the following script: : : NOPUSH : SET CARRIER ON 1 : SET COMMAND BYTESIZE 8 : SET EXIT WARNING OFF : SET QUIET ON : SET TERMINAL AUTODOWNLOAD OFF : SET TERMINAL BYTESIZE 8 : SET TERMINAL CHARACTER-SET TRANSPARENT : SET TERMINAL ESCAPE DISABLED : SET TERMINAL APC OFF : SET PARITY NONE : SET NETWORK TCP/IP : SET TELNET BINARY REQUESTED : SET TELNET BUG BINARY-ME-MEANS-U-TOO ON : SET HOST LOCALHOST : CONNECT : : stty -a output on the controlling terminal when using the above except : push enabled, and push'd to the shell: : ... When you push, C-Kermit resets the controlling terminal. : A login is performed that runs the following kermit script (leaving out : error-checking): : : NOPUSH : SET CARRIER ON 1 : SET COMMAND BYTESIZE 8 : SET EXIT WARNING OFF : SET QUIET ON : SET TERMINAL AUTODOWNLOAD OFF : SET TERMINAL BYTESIZE 8 : SET TERMINAL CHARACTER-SET TRANSPARENT : SET TERMINAL ESCAPE DISABLED : SET TERMINAL APC OFF : SET PARITY NONE : set line /dev/tty2 : hangup : hangup : set line /dev/tty2 : SET SPEED 19200 : SET FLOW RTS/CTS : pause 1 : output \13 : connect : clear : hangup : hangup : quit : : This appears to generally work, allowing 8-bit transparent connections with : adequate flow control, but I'm open to suggestions on improving it. : You don't say what you meant by "improving it" -- I assume the transparency issues have all been addressed satisfactorily; it looks like you've covered most of the bases described in "Using C-Kermit" 2nd Edition, pages 162-165 ("C-Kermit in the Middle"). In earlier releases of C-Kermit, end-to-end performance through this kind of connection was pretty awful. A lot of work has gone into speeding it up. Thus, for example, C-Kermit, when in CONNECT mode, no longer *assumes* that input is coming from the (slow) keyboard, but instead uses all sorts of buffering techniques and trickery to make this kind of connection as fast as possible -- within the limitations of its portable architecture. Still, you're going to see some overhead that you would not see if you had a direct connection, especially during file transfer. - Frank From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Tue May 6 18:11:25 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA21711 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 18:11:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA04601 for kermit.misc@watsun; Tue, 6 May 1997 18:11:23 -0400 (EDT) From: arthur@gateway.dircsa.org.au (Arthur Marsh) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: serial - network - serial connection Date: 7 May 1997 07:35:39 +0930 Organization: DIRC - Disability Information & Resource Centre - Sth Australia Lines: 37 Message-ID: <5ko9vj$32p@gateway.dircsa.org.au> References: <5knrsl$7ml$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: apache.dircsa.org.au X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8] Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!europa.clark.net!feed1.news.erols.com!news.ecn.uoknor.edu!munnari.OZ.AU!news.mel.connect.com.au!news.ade.connect.com.au!duster.adelaide.on.net!news.camtech.net.au!news.dircsa.org.au!news.dircsa.org.au!not-for-mail Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6996 Frank da Cruz (fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu) wrote: : : This appears to generally work, allowing 8-bit transparent connections with : : adequate flow control, but I'm open to suggestions on improving it. : : : You don't say what you meant by "improving it" -- I assume the transparency : issues have all been addressed satisfactorily; it looks like you've covered : most of the bases described in "Using C-Kermit" 2nd Edition, pages 162-165 : ("C-Kermit in the Middle"). I had a bit more of a look, installed some newer Stallion drivers, then noticed that two of our null modem adapters were a cross between the two types on page 494 of Using C-Kermit 2nd Edition (recently purchased from the Technical Book Shop, 295 Swanston St Melbourne Vic (-:). DTR correctly went to DSR and DCD on the opposite side, but RTS and CTS were faked locally. I have since replaced them with some true hardware handshaking null modem adapters. : In earlier releases of C-Kermit, end-to-end performance through this kind of : connection was pretty awful. A lot of work has gone into speeding it up. : Thus, for example, C-Kermit, when in CONNECT mode, no longer *assumes* that : input is coming from the (slow) keyboard, but instead uses all sorts of : buffering techniques and trickery to make this kind of connection as fast as : possible -- within the limitations of its portable architecture. Still, : you're going to see some overhead that you would not see if you had a direct : connection, especially during file transfer. : - Frank Well, it is getting very close to achieving the goal of being an 8-bit transparent pipe that can be used to haul Fidonet traffic. Thanks again for the great work with Kermit itself and the second edition of the book! -- Arthur Marsh, telephone +61-8-8370-2365, fax +61-8-8223-5082 arthur@dircsa.org.au .endofsig From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Tue May 6 18:50:40 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA00405 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 18:50:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA06431 for kermit.misc@watsun; Tue, 6 May 1997 18:50:40 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.eecs.umich.edu!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!cs.utexas.edu!news.cs.utah.edu!cc.usu.edu!jrd From: jrd@cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Divide overflow error Message-ID: <1997May6.151725.97844@cc.usu.edu> Date: 6 May 97 15:17:25 MDT References: <19970506145700.KAA05693@ladder01.news.aol.com> Organization: Utah State University Lines: 9 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6997 In article <19970506145700.KAA05693@ladder01.news.aol.com>, gandvs@aol.com (GandVS) writes: > Has anyone heard of MS-Kermit returning a 'divide overflow error' when > started on a PC using a Pentium Pro processor? It has worked fine on a > Pentium, but gives this error as soon as it is started on the Pentium Pro. --------- You are running a rather old version of MS-DOS Kermit, written before there were such things as Pentiums and P Pros. Please update and the problem will vanish. Joe D. From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Wed May 7 07:39:24 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA09551 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 07:39:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA04750 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 7 May 1997 07:39:23 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!europa.clark.net!newsfeed2!idir.net!news From: Angel Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Gratification at bargain prices!!! 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From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Thu May 8 11:16:14 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA12758 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 11:16:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA24082 for kermit.misc@watsun; Thu, 8 May 1997 11:16:13 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!europa.clark.net!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!news2.acs.oakland.edu!condor.ic.net!news2.ic.net!news From: "Michael Kairys" Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Help with dial timeout (noise?) problem Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 11:15:45 -0400 Organization: ICNET... Your Link To The Internet... +1.313.998.0090 Lines: 25 Message-ID: <5ksqah$7db@news2.ic.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: p187.a.aa.ic.net X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.0544.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE Engine V4.71.0544.0 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6999 Kermit 95 on Windows NT 4.0, USR Sportster modem.. I'm trying to work with login scripts, using the supplied login.ksc file, to log into a SunOS host via a terminal server. It seems I never get to my script, but rather hit a dial timeout and am returned to the Kermit prompt. I can then connect, and I see half a dozen garbage characters at the top of the screen. If I then send a or two I get to the login prompt. I guess the terminal server on the other end is putting out some initial garbage that is preventing the dial command from succeeding. But I don't know how to deal with this, since I never get to my script. Suggestions welcome! And if I get past that point, I would like to know how to issue the equivalent of an Alt-R from a script. I would like to do this after the login before the script exits, to fix a number-of-rows problem. I am telling the Sun system I am a VT100 (that's the only VT it knows about) and it seems to set me to 24 rows. even though I do an stty rows 48 in my .cshrc and Kermit thinks my window is 49 rows. Alt-R seems to fix it. Of course perhaps there's a better solution? Again, suggestions welcome! From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Thu May 8 13:16:44 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA08124 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 13:16:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA26982 for kermit.misc@watsun; Thu, 8 May 1997 13:16:41 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!Sprint!news-east.sprintlink.net!news-dc-26.sprintlink.net!news-fw-12.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-fw-6.sprintlink.net!myriad!mail From: Frank da Cruz Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Help with dial timeout (noise?) problem Date: 8 May 1997 13:00:14 -0400 Organization: Mail to Usenet Gateway Lines: 46 Message-ID: To: "Michael Kairys" cc: comp.protocols.kermit.misc@myriad.alias.net In-Reply-To: Your message of Thu, 8 May 1997 12:17:51 -0400 (EDT) Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7000 Our news server has been busted for about a week -- we can receive but not post. I'll try a roundabout method here, let's see if it works... > Kermit 95 on Windows NT 4.0, USR Sportster modem.. > > I'm trying to work with login scripts, using the supplied login.ksc file, > to log into a SunOS host via a terminal server. It seems I never get to my > script, but rather hit a dial timeout and am returned to the Kermit prompt. > I can then connect, and I see half a dozen garbage characters at the top of > the screen. > You need to modify the script to take the terminal server dialog into account: typically this involves waiting (INPUT) for the terminal server prompt and then sending (OUTPUT) the name or address of the system you want to connect to. > And if I get past that point, I would like to know how to issue the > equivalent of an Alt-R from a script. > I would like to do this after the login before the script exits, to fix a > number-of-rows problem. I am telling the Sun system I am a VT100 (that's > the only VT it knows about) and it seems to set me to 24 rows. even though > I do an stty rows 48 in my .cshrc and Kermit thinks my window is 49 rows. > Alt-R seems to fix it. Of course perhaps there's a better solution? Again, > suggestions welcome! > There is presently no way to reset the terminal from command mode, but we will probably be adding this in a future release. However, that's not the solution in your case. Instead, once you get the host shell prompt, give the following command: `eval resize` (with the "backquotes"). This should make the host recognize your current screen size. You should also be able to pick up VT220 and 320 termcap entries for the Sun almost anywhere -- I'm surprised you don't have them already. Maybe there is a spelling difference... Try: cd /etc grep -i vt termcap On my local SunOS system, this picks up over 100 lines! Remember terminal names are case sensitive in UNIX. - Frank From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Thu May 8 13:49:46 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA15697 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 13:49:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA27716 for kermit.misc@watsun; Thu, 8 May 1997 13:49:45 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!blackbush.xlink.net!news-ge.switch.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!ubnnews.unisource.ch!newssrv.ita.tip.net!venere.inet.it!urano.inet.it!news@inet.it From: rober@proxys.it (Roberto Perelli) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: K95 problems on serial ports on COMPAQ Presario 71xx Date: Thu, 08 May 1997 09:51:52 GMT Organization: I.NET - Customers News Server Lines: 25 Message-ID: <33719cfd.9573761@news.inet.it> NNTP-Posting-Host: proxys.inet.it X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.1/32.230 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7001 I have met a problem with Kermit-95 and serial ports of COMPAQ Presario 71xx product line. I get so many errors when dialing numbers or during login that I hardly get the connection. It seems that not all characters passed to serial port by K95 are sent to modem. The weird thing is that communication programs like Hyperterminal, Procomm, WinFax and others work fine on the same port in the same configuration. I' ve also changed port configuration disabling FIFO buffers and decreasing the speed to 9600 bps. The only way to make it work was installing a supplemental serial port card disabling the integrated one. None of these problems when using MS-Kermit 3.14 under WINDOWS 3.1 or with COMPAQ DESKPRO, PROLINEA CONTURA, ARMADA series. I'll appreciate very much any suggestion or idea. Regards. Roberto Perelli -- rober@proxys.it From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Thu May 8 16:11:29 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA15690 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 16:11:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA01578 for kermit.misc@watsun; Thu, 8 May 1997 16:11:28 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!Sprint!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-chi-13.sprintlink.net!myriad!mail From: Jeffrey Altman Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: K95 problems on serial ports on COMPAQ Presario 71xx Date: 8 May 1997 16:00:09 -0400 Organization: Columbia University Lines: 43 Message-ID: <199705081933.PAA08276@watsun.cc.columbia.edu> Reply-To: kermit-support@columbia.edu To: rober@proxys.it In-Reply-To: <33719cfd.9573761@news.inet.it> Cc: comp.protocols.kermit.misc@myriad.alias.net Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7002 Our news server has been busted for about a week -- we can receive but not post. I'll try a roundabout method here, let's see if it works... In article <33719cfd.9573761@news.inet.it> you write: : I have met a problem with Kermit-95 and serial ports of COMPAQ : Presario 71xx product line. : : I get so many errors when dialing numbers or during login that I : hardly get the connection. It seems that not all characters passed to : serial port by K95 are sent to modem. : : : : The only way to make it work was installing a supplemental serial port : card disabling the integrated one. : : None of these problems when using MS-Kermit 3.14 under WINDOWS 3.1 or : with COMPAQ DESKPRO, PROLINEA CONTURA, ARMADA series. It sounds like there is a hardware problem in the UART used in the Presario 71xx that is tickled by the API calls that are used by K95. We discovered that versions of K95 prior to 1.1.11 had problems accessing certain virtual serial ports due to the use of the TransmitCommChar() API call. So in 1.1.11 we removed the use of that call. It is possible that TransmitCommChar() does not work properly with the Presario 71xx computer UART. If you are using version 1.1.11, please send e-mail to kermit-support@columbia.edu so that we may attempt to discover the cause of the problem. Patches to K95 may be found on the Web site at http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/k95patch.html. -- Jeffrey Altman * Sr.Software Designer * Kermit-95 for Win32 and OS/2 The Kermit Project * Columbia University 612 West 115th St #716 * New York, NY * 10025 * (212) 854-1344 http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/k95.html * kermit-support@columbia.edu From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Thu May 8 21:23:47 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA13806 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 21:23:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA09085 for kermit.misc@watsun; Thu, 8 May 1997 21:23:46 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!feed1.news.erols.com!disgorge.news.demon.net!demon!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!fido.news.demon.net!demon!newsgate.unisource.nl!news.unisource.nl!news.tip.nl!news.globalxs.nl!news From: Jeroen Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Neede: Resellers for Adv. Comp. Products.(only serious replies). Date: 8 May 1997 21:41:57 GMT Organization: GlobalXS, the Netherlands Message-ID: <5kthb5$39h@guust.globalxs.nl> NNTP-Posting-Host: laurel.moviestar.globalxs.nl Lines: 14 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7003 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- This message is being brought to you by Dynamic Mail - the easier and faster's way to explodes your business on the internet. For more information please visit our web site at : http://www.australia.net.au/~apexpi/dynamail.htm ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Hello I am starting up a company in the Netherlands. We are distributor for many products in Europe and outside. We are looking for companies who want to become reseller of some of our products in there country. We have products for every branche in our assortiment. Just mail me and we can discuss this further. 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Sincerely Ruben Daniels From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Thu May 8 21:45:21 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA17677 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 21:45:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA09640 for kermit.misc@watsun; Thu, 8 May 1997 21:45:21 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!unix.amherst.edu!vax3.amherst.edu!chsenecal From: Bill Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Install Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 21:41:45 EDT Organization: Amherst College, Amherst MA, USA Lines: 7 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 148.85.1.23 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7004 Tried to install on C:\ and all I get is a blank screen with a few commands across the bottom. None of the helping commands apply to connecting to the server. Anyone who can get Dr. Livingston out of the jungle will attain notoriety among a few other dummies. Bill From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Fri May 9 10:56:41 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA24280 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 10:56:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA18445 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 9 May 1997 10:56:40 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Install Date: 9 May 1997 14:56:39 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 13 Message-ID: <5kvdv7$cq9$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7008 In article , Bill wrote: : Tried to install on C:\ and all I get is a blank screen with a few : commands across the bottom. None of the helping commands apply to : connecting to the server. Anyone who can get Dr. Livingston out of the : jungle will attain notoriety among a few other dummies. : If this is a request for help with Kermit software, you'll need to specify which Kermit software program you are trying to install, and what version of it, on which kind of computer and operating system and version, and from what medium -- diskette, downloaded from net or BBS, etc, and in what form. - Frank From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Mon May 12 23:02:49 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA26913 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 23:02:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA12482 for kermit.misc@watsun; Mon, 12 May 1997 23:02:49 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!gatech!usceast!sc.edu!cpk-news-feed4.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.nist.gov!enh.nist.gov!reflib From: reflib@enh.nist.gov Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Divide overflow error Date: 13 MAY 97 01:33:50 GMT Organization: NIST Lines: 12 Message-ID: <13MAY97.01335073@enh.nist.gov> NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.6.16.1 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7014 >...You are running a rather old version of MS-DOS Kermit... Sigh. I have been using Kermit 3.12 happily for years, but now have to cope with the top of the line Pentium and am getting the Divide overflow error. What update do I have to use, and where do I get it? [The top of the line Pentium also lost Gorilla and Tetris and all the fun things, which are having to be laboriously restored...] reflib@nist.gov From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Tue May 13 10:31:14 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA00391 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 10:31:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA01246 for kermit.misc@watsun; Tue, 13 May 1997 10:31:13 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Divide overflow error Date: 13 May 1997 14:31:10 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 17 Message-ID: <5l9tve$9e9$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <13MAY97.01335073@enh.nist.gov> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7016 In article <13MAY97.01335073@enh.nist.gov>, wrote: : >...You are running a rather old version of MS-DOS Kermit... : : Sigh. I have been using Kermit 3.12 happily for years, but now have : to cope with the top of the line Pentium and am getting the Divide overflow : error. : It's a fact of life. Time-critical (realtime) software written years ago for a 286 or 386 class machine cannot be expected to work forever as the hardware keeps changing out from underneath it; the developers don't have crystal balls. Adjustments are necessary. : What update do I have to use, and where do I get it? : http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/mskermit.html - Frank From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Tue May 13 10:50:57 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA05060 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 10:50:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA01759 for kermit.misc@watsun; Tue, 13 May 1997 10:50:55 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!newsfeed.direct.ca!torn!ccshst05.cs.uoguelph.ca!news From: lloo@POBoxes.com.X (Leon Loo) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: K95 problem with logging session Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 14:32:04 GMT Organization: University of Guelph Lines: 52 Message-ID: <33787950.5951997@news.uoguelph.ca> Reply-To: lloo@POBoxes.com.X NNTP-Posting-Host: bluegill.cs.uoguelph.ca X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.1/32.230 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7017 I'm trying to log a session with Kermit 95 version 1.1.11 These are the commands that seem to work log session test log session 123 log session c:\test However when I tried: log session c:\123 It seems to fail every time I use a numerical file name with an explicit path. It looks like it's trying to log the session to a file name '{' in the default directory. Here is a screen capture with the results of a SHOW FILE command after the LOG SESSION. ------------------ Start Screen Capture ---------------- [C:\apps\k95] K-95> log session c:\123 [C:\apps\k95] K-95> show file Transfer mode: automatic File type: binary File names: literal Send pathnames: off Receive pathnames: off File collision: backup File destination: disk File incomplete: keep File bytesize: 8 File character-set: cp437 File end-of-line: crlf File display: fullscreen Debug log: (none) Packet log: (none) Session log: C:\apps\k95\{ Transaction log: (none) Initialization file: C:/apps/k95/k95.ini File download-directory: (none) Temporary directory: C:/WINDOWS/TEMP/ Longest filename: 256 Longest pathname: 256 [C:\apps\k95] K-95> ------------------ End Screen Capture ------------------ My question: Is this a bug or am I doing something incorrectly? and how best should I work around this. Any insight to this problem would be appreciated. Thanks. _/ _/ _/_/_/ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ _/ _/ _/ Leon Loo, LLoo@POBoxes.com _/ _/ of _/ _/_/ If you're trying to REPLY by mail to me you'll _/ _/ _/ _/ have to remove the .X from my email address. _/_/_/ _/_/_/ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Tue May 13 11:21:27 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA10647 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 11:21:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA02581 for kermit.misc@watsun; Tue, 13 May 1997 11:21:26 -0400 (EDT) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Path: news.columbia.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!news.msfc.nasa.gov!europa.clark.net!feed1.news.erols.com!howland.erols.net!ix.netcom.com!gerlach From: gerlach@netcom.com (Matthew H. Gerlach) Subject: Re: K95 problem with logging session Message-ID: Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest) References: <33787950.5951997@news.uoguelph.ca> Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 15:13:18 GMT Lines: 23 Sender: gerlach@netcom23.netcom.com Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7018 In article <33787950.5951997@news.uoguelph.ca> lloo@POBoxes.com.X writes: >I'm trying to log a session with Kermit 95 version 1.1.11 > >These are the commands that seem to work >log session test >log session 123 >log session c:\test > >However when I tried: >log session c:\123 >It seems to fail every time I use a numerical file name with an >explicit path. It looks like it's trying to log the session to a file >name '{' in the default directory. Here is a screen capture with the >results of a SHOW FILE command after the LOG SESSION. > A peer at work has mentioned a similar problem to me, but I have not verified it myself. Using Kermit 95, I think ver 1.1.10, he says he cannot log to a directory if the directory name startes with decimal digits, as opposed to characters a-z. It might be that kermit cannot open a file whose name starts with digits. Matthew From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Tue May 13 12:31:17 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA25327 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 12:31:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA04321 for kermit.misc@watsun; Tue, 13 May 1997 12:31:16 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!europa.clark.net!mr.net!news.netins.net!usenet From: "Joel T. Augard" Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: problem with Kermit 3.11 Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 11:18:07 -0500 Organization: netINS, Inc. Lines: 20 Message-ID: <3378943F.5CBD@netins.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: ekhr-01-19.dialup.netins.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7019 I'm using MS-DOS Kermit ver. 3.11. I've got a workstation connected to a Novell 3.12 server. The workstation has a boot disk that loads the DOSODI protocal and uses VLM to connect to the server. After connection to the server is established and the workstation logs in the command KERMIT SERVER is executed to put the workstation into server mode. I have another workstation connected to the kermit workstation using the same version of kermit. The problem that i'm having is that I can't access the network drives on the kermit server. When i issue a REMOTE DIR command from the other workstation I get an error message stating that device is unavailable. I also get this error message anytime i issue a REMOTE command. I can however issue REMOTE CD A:\ and then REMOTE DIR and i can get a directory of the floppy. I can even send/receive files from the floppy, but i can't do anything to the novell network drive. Is there a known incompatability between MS-DOS KERMIt and novell's vlm's? Any help that can be offered would be appreciated. Joel T. Augard Aesculapian Concepts From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Tue May 13 12:53:08 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA00442 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 12:53:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA04817 for kermit.misc@watsun; Tue, 13 May 1997 12:53:07 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: K95 problem with logging session Date: 13 May 1997 16:53:05 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 39 Message-ID: <5la69h$i4a$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <33787950.5951997@news.uoguelph.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7020 In article <33787950.5951997@news.uoguelph.ca>, Leon Loo wrote: : I'm trying to log a session with Kermit 95 version 1.1.11 : : These are the commands that seem to work : log session test : log session 123 : log session c:\test : : However when I tried: : log session c:\123 : It seems to fail every time I use a numerical file name with an : explicit path. It looks like it's trying to log the session to a file : name '{' in the default directory. Here is a screen capture with the : results of a SHOW FILE command after the LOG SESSION. : When referring to a file that does not yet exist, the "\nnn" (nnn being digits) notation is ambiguous. Does it mean, literally, (in this case) "\123", or is it a backslash-escape, which (in this case) evaluates to the character '{'? The manual lists numerous ways to handle such situations. In this case, the simplest is to use the "other" slash: log session c:/123 Others include: log session c:\\123 or: set command quoting off log session c:\123 set command quoting on etc. - Frank From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Tue May 13 16:11:22 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA09007 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 16:11:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA09721 for kermit.misc@watsun; Tue, 13 May 1997 16:11:20 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.eecs.umich.edu!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!myriad!mail From: Joe Doupnik Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: [problem with Kermit 3.11] Date: 13 May 1997 16:00:02 -0400 Organization: Mail to Usenet Gateway Lines: 38 Message-ID: <01IITM8RJD9U9ICU55@cc.usu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Resent-Message-Id: <199705131929.PAA29722@watsun.cc.columbia.edu> To: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu Cc: JAUGARD@NETINS.NET X-VMS-To: IN%"fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu" X-VMS-Cc: JAUGARD@NETINS.NET,JRD Resent-To: comp.protocols.kermit.misc@myriad.alias.net Resent-Date: Tue, 13 May 97 15:29:38 EDT Resent-From: Frank da Cruz Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7021 >From: "Joel T. Augard" >Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc >Subject: problem with Kermit 3.11 >Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 11:18:07 -0500 >Organization: netINS, Inc. >Lines: 20 > >I'm using MS-DOS Kermit ver. 3.11. I've got a workstation connected to >a Novell 3.12 server. The workstation has a boot disk that loads the >DOSODI protocal and uses VLM to connect to the server. After connection >to the server is established and the workstation logs in the command >KERMIT SERVER is executed to put the workstation into server mode. I >have another workstation connected to the kermit workstation using the >same version of kermit. > >The problem that i'm having is that I can't access the network drives on >the kermit server. When i issue a REMOTE DIR command from the other >workstation I get an error message stating that device is unavailable. >I also get this error message anytime i issue a REMOTE command. I can >however issue REMOTE CD A:\ and then REMOTE DIR and i can get a >directory of the floppy. I can even send/receive files from the floppy, >but i can't do anything to the novell network drive. Is there a known >incompatability between MS-DOS KERMIt and novell's vlm's? Any help that >can be offered would be appreciated. > >Joel T. Augard >Aesculapian Concepts --------- Joel, This isn't an MS-DOS Kermit problem at all, but rather the way you have the workstation and its NW login script and perhaps net.cfg composed. MSK does not use IPX, so all IPX and above features are completely independent of MSK. VLMs handle IPX work. To check things I recommend you look at drive mappings, by first bringing MSK out of server mode. Also, MSK v3.11 is very old indeed and I recommend you upgrade to the current release, v3.14, or even the current open beta 3.15. Joe D. From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Wed May 14 14:51:00 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA13238 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 14:50:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA03939 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 14 May 1997 14:50:58 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!cs.utexas.edu!news.cs.utah.edu!cc.usu.edu!jrd From: jrd@cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Divide overflow error Message-ID: <1997May14.123033.98142@cc.usu.edu> Date: 14 May 97 12:30:33 MDT References: <13MAY97.01335073@enh.nist.gov> Organization: Utah State University Lines: 21 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7022 In article <13MAY97.01335073@enh.nist.gov>, reflib@enh.nist.gov writes: > >...You are running a rather old version of MS-DOS Kermit... > > Sigh. I have been using Kermit 3.12 happily for years, but now have > to cope with the top of the line Pentium and am getting the Divide overflow > error. > > What update do I have to use, and where do I get it? > > [The top of the line Pentium also lost Gorilla and Tetris and all the > fun things, which are having to be laboriously restored...] > > reflib@nist.gov --------- From exactly the same place where you likely got it before: kermit.columbia.edu. Version 3.14 is current, 3.15 beta is better (cd to kermit2/test/bin, file msk315.zip). Alternatively, we might arrange a swap: I'll send you a brand new copy of old MSK 3.12 and you send me the top of the line Pentium. I'll even throw in a copy of 3.15 beta. Oh, hmmm. Well, it was worth a try. Joe D. From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Wed May 14 16:23:46 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA00956 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 16:23:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA06086 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 14 May 1997 16:23:45 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!newsfeed.direct.ca!torn!ccshst05.cs.uoguelph.ca!news From: lloo@POBoxes.com.X (Leon Loo) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: K95 problem with logging session Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 20:05:03 GMT Organization: University of Guelph Lines: 21 Message-ID: <337a1a61.7943489@news.uoguelph.ca> References: <33787950.5951997@news.uoguelph.ca> Reply-To: lloo@POBoxes.com.X NNTP-Posting-Host: bluegill.cs.uoguelph.ca X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.1/32.230 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7023 On Tue, 13 May 1997 15:13:18 GMT, gerlach@netcom.com (Matthew H. Gerlach) wrote: >A peer at work has mentioned a similar problem to me, but I have not >verified it myself. Using Kermit 95, I think ver 1.1.10, he says he cannot >log to a directory if the directory name startes with decimal digits, >as opposed to characters a-z. It might be that kermit cannot open a file >whose name starts with digits. > >Matthew I originally ran into the problem with version 1.1.7 and upgraded to 1.1.11 hoping it would have been fixed. It was not. _/ _/ _/_/_/ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ _/ _/ _/ Leon Loo, LLoo@POBoxes.com _/ _/ of _/ _/_/ If you're trying to REPLY by mail to me you'll _/ _/ _/ _/ have to remove the .X from my email address. _/_/_/ _/_/_/ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Wed May 14 17:37:21 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA16870 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 17:37:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA07876 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 14 May 1997 17:37:20 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!news.pbi.net!news1.rcsntx.swbell.net!usenet From: Janet Lafferty Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Print w/WFW on network printer Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 16:36:25 -0500 Organization: Southwestern Bell Internet Services Lines: 9 Message-ID: <337A3059.5A48@swbell.net> Reply-To: Janet138@swbell.net NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp-151-164-38-42.rcsntx.swbell.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01C-SBXA (Win95; I) Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7024 Does anyone know how to use Kermit 3.14 running under Windows for Workgroups to print to a network printer. We use the Single Character Commands menu to dump screen to file. Then in the mscustom.ini file we included the set dump to prn line. This works perfectly if we have a physical connection to the printer, but with a network printer you see the error message, "unable to open file and save to disk" (or something very similar). Any suggestions would be much appreciated. Janet From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Wed May 14 20:02:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA02941 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 20:02:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA11377 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 14 May 1997 20:02:14 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: K95 problem with logging session Date: 15 May 1997 00:02:13 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 39 Message-ID: <5ldjq5$7a4$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <33787950.5951997@news.uoguelph.ca> <337a1a61.7943489@news.uoguelph.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7025 In article <337a1a61.7943489@news.uoguelph.ca>, Leon Loo wrote: : On Tue, 13 May 1997 15:13:18 GMT, gerlach@netcom.com (Matthew H. : Gerlach) wrote: : >A peer at work has mentioned a similar problem to me, but I have not : >verified it myself. Using Kermit 95, I think ver 1.1.10, he says he cannot : >log to a directory if the directory name startes with decimal digits, : >as opposed to characters a-z. It might be that kermit cannot open a file : >whose name starts with digits. : : I originally ran into the problem with version 1.1.7 and upgraded to : 1.1.11 hoping it would have been fixed. It was not. : I posted an answer to this one days ago -- maybe it didn't make it? Here it is again: When referring to a file that does not yet exist, the "\nnn" (nnn being digits) notation is ambiguous. Does it mean, literally, (in this case) "\123", or is it a backslash-escape, which (in this case) evaluates to the character '{'? The manual lists numerous ways to handle such situations. In this case, the simplest is to use the "other" slash: log session c:/123 Others include: log session c:\\123 or: set command quoting off log session c:\123 set command quoting on etc. - Frank From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Wed May 14 21:09:27 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA15762 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 21:09:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA12942 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 14 May 1997 21:09:27 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-feed4.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.nist.gov!enh.nist.gov!reflib From: reflib@enh.nist.gov Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Divide overflow error Date: 15 MAY 97 01:07:46 GMT Organization: NIST Lines: 12 Message-ID: <15MAY97.01074639@enh.nist.gov> NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.6.16.1 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7026 If I get Kermit 3.14, can I go to a computer (not my own) which is running Windows 95, pop the 3.14 into the A:drive, go to DOS and the A:drive, and crank up Kermit? All I want to do is check my email. In other words, what's the real problem here? Windows 95? The particular Pentium model? The DOS version that is on the computer that gives the Divide Overflow Error (Windows 4.000??? or some such)? reflib(clinging tenaciously to the trailing edge of technology)@nist.gov From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Wed May 14 22:51:10 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA00728 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 22:51:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA15431 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 14 May 1997 22:51:08 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!news.msfc.nasa.gov!europa.clark.net!ais.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!torn!ccshst05.cs.uoguelph.ca!news From: lloo@POBoxes.com.X (Leon Loo) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: K95 problem with logging session Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 02:22:00 GMT Organization: University of Guelph Lines: 16 Message-ID: <337a728c.5044147@news.uoguelph.ca> References: <33787950.5951997@news.uoguelph.ca> <5la69h$i4a$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> Reply-To: lloo@POBoxes.com.X NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp01-45.net.uoguelph.ca X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.1/32.230 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7027 On 13 May 1997 16:53:05 GMT, fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) wrote: >When referring to a file that does not yet exist, the "\nnn" (nnn being >digits) notation is ambiguous. Does it mean, literally, (in this case) >"\123", or is it a backslash-escape, which (in this case) evaluates to the >character '{'? Of course, I should have figured it out. Thanks. _/ _/ _/_/_/ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ _/ _/ _/ Leon Loo, LLoo@POBoxes.com _/ _/ of _/ _/_/ If you're trying to REPLY by mail to me you'll _/ _/ _/ _/ have to remove the .X from my email address. _/_/_/ _/_/_/ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Thu May 15 08:01:03 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA12945 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 08:01:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA00591 for kermit.misc@watsun; Thu, 15 May 1997 08:01:02 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!oleane!jussieu.fr!rain.fr!news.eurobretagne.fr!news From: "Eddy" Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Finich a Kermit download with PcAnywhere (Win 95) and unix (BOS 2.0) Date: 15 May 1997 11:50:15 GMT Organization: EuroBretagne Lines: 17 Message-ID: <01bc6125$e2b61800$c9c809c0@blueberry.eurobretagne.fr> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp-brest-44.eurobretagne.fr X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1157 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7028 Hello! I have been using the version 7.50 of PcAnywhere on Win95 and a Bull DPX 2000 (BOS 2.00). These 2 computers are connected with modems (7 bits data, Parity enable, 1 bit stop, VT220 7bits). I have no problem in emulation mode, but one to terminate the download. I'm downloading files from 10 Kb up to 500 Kb. The kermit session in windows doesn't stop everytime, whereas all the data are downloaded. The average of success is only 50%. Does anyone know anything about this? Or does anyone know about a soft more efficient, with script facilities but not MS-DOS please. Thanks! Eddy A. From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Thu May 15 10:46:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA13289 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 10:46:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA04578 for kermit.misc@watsun; Thu, 15 May 1997 10:46:13 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Divide overflow error Date: 15 May 1997 14:46:12 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 16 Message-ID: <5lf7jk$pos$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <15MAY97.01074639@enh.nist.gov> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7029 In article <15MAY97.01074639@enh.nist.gov>, wrote: : : If I get Kermit 3.14, can I go to a computer (not my own) which is : running Windows 95, pop the 3.14 into the A:drive, go to DOS and the : A:drive, and crank up Kermit? All I want to do is check my email. : MS-DOS Kermit was not written for Windows 95. Kermit 95 is the Kermit software for Windows 95. MS-DOS Kermit might or might not work -- if you want to use it in Windows 95, you're on your own. Kermit 95 will let you check your email on a dialup connection, a direct connection, a TCP/IP connection, or a LAT connection: http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/k95.html - Frank From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Thu May 15 10:51:34 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA14166 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 10:51:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA04688 for kermit.misc@watsun; Thu, 15 May 1997 10:51:33 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Finich a Kermit download with PcAnywhere (Win 95) and unix (BOS 2.0) Date: 15 May 1997 14:51:32 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 40 Message-ID: <5lf7tk$q36$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <01bc6125$e2b61800$c9c809c0@blueberry.eurobretagne.fr> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7030 In article <01bc6125$e2b61800$c9c809c0@blueberry.eurobretagne.fr>, Eddy wrote: : I have been using the version 7.50 of PcAnywhere on Win95 and a Bull DPX : 2000 (BOS 2.00). : I'm not sure what BOS is -- is that Bull's name for AIX? Or is it Bull's name for DOS? Are you saying you are running pcAnywhere on the Bull too? : These 2 computers are connected with modems (7 bits data, : Parity enable, 1 bit stop, VT220 7bits). : : I have no problem in emulation mode, but one to terminate the download. : I'm downloading files from 10 Kb up to 500 Kb. The kermit session in : windows doesn't stop everytime, whereas all the data are downloaded. The : average of success is only 50%. : This is the support forum for Kermit software. We can't be responsible for other peoples' implementations of the Kermit protocol, many of which are half-hearted at best, faulty, or in some cases completely nonfunctional. : Does anyone know anything about this? Or does anyone know about a soft : more efficient, with script facilities but not MS-DOS please. : The Kermit software for Windows 95 is Kermit 95 1.1.11: http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/k95.html The Kermit software for UNIX (AIX, etc) is C-Kermit 6.0: http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/ck60.html The Kermit software for DOS and Windows 3.x is MS-DOS Kermit 3.14: http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/mskermit.html If you are using any combination of these and you have problems, we can help you. If you are using some other software, you'll need to get help from its vendor when you have problems with it. - Frank From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Thu May 15 11:51:00 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA25948 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 11:51:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA06421 for kermit.misc@watsun; Thu, 15 May 1997 11:50:59 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!cs.utexas.edu!news.cs.utah.edu!cc.usu.edu!jrd From: jrd@cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Divide overflow error Message-ID: <1997May15.092617.98175@cc.usu.edu> Date: 15 May 97 09:26:17 MDT References: <15MAY97.01074639@enh.nist.gov> Organization: Utah State University Lines: 19 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7031 In article <15MAY97.01074639@enh.nist.gov>, reflib@enh.nist.gov writes: > If I get Kermit 3.14, can I go to a computer (not my own) which is > running Windows 95, pop the 3.14 into the A:drive, go to DOS and the > A:drive, and crank up Kermit? All I want to do is check my email. > > In other words, what's the real problem here? Windows 95? The I might ask the same of you. The original question, if you recall, referenced a much older version of MS-DOS Kermit. Upgrading MSK is the solution. Now, please tell me what your particular problem is and we can try to provide assistance. Joe D. > particular Pentium model? The DOS version that is on the computer > that gives the Divide Overflow Error (Windows 4.000??? or some such)? > > reflib(clinging tenaciously to the trailing edge of technology)@nist.gov From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Thu May 15 12:19:12 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA01087 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 12:19:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA07528 for kermit.misc@watsun; Thu, 15 May 1997 12:19:11 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news-xfer.netaxs.com!feed1.news.erols.com!howland.erols.net!cs.utexas.edu!news.cs.utah.edu!cc.usu.edu!jrd From: jrd@cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Print w/WFW on network printer Message-ID: <1997May15.093252.98176@cc.usu.edu> Date: 15 May 97 09:32:51 MDT References: <337A3059.5A48@swbell.net> Organization: Utah State University Lines: 17 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7032 In article <337A3059.5A48@swbell.net>, Janet Lafferty writes: > Does anyone know how to use Kermit 3.14 running under Windows for > Workgroups to print to a network printer. We use the Single Character > Commands menu to dump screen to file. Then in the mscustom.ini file we > included the set dump to prn line. This works perfectly if we have a > physical connection to the printer, but with a network printer you see > the error message, "unable to open file and save to disk" (or something > very similar). Any suggestions would be much appreciated. > > Janet -------- DUMP, like Printing, uses DOS to do all the work. If DOS device PRN is modified by your networking software such that PRN can't be opened by the DUMP command then the difficulty is very likely with the networking software. Kermit does not see the networking redirector; it sees only what DOS reports. I suggest you have a look at the networking arrangement. Joe D. From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Thu May 15 17:03:55 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA05746 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 17:03:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA18972 for kermit.misc@watsun; Thu, 15 May 1997 17:03:55 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsout1.alt.net!news1.alt.net!news.aros.net!news.cs.utah.edu!cc.usu.edu!jrd From: jrd@cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: [problem with Kermit 3.11] Message-ID: <1997May15.134740.98191@cc.usu.edu> Date: 15 May 97 13:47:40 MDT References: <01IITM8RJD9U9ICU55@cc.usu.edu> Organization: Utah State University Lines: 50 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7033 In article <01IITM8RJD9U9ICU55@cc.usu.edu>, Joe Doupnik writes: >>From: "Joel T. Augard" >>Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc >>Subject: problem with Kermit 3.11 >>Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 11:18:07 -0500 >>Organization: netINS, Inc. >>Lines: 20 >> >>I'm using MS-DOS Kermit ver. 3.11. I've got a workstation connected to >>a Novell 3.12 server. The workstation has a boot disk that loads the >>DOSODI protocal and uses VLM to connect to the server. After connection >>to the server is established and the workstation logs in the command >>KERMIT SERVER is executed to put the workstation into server mode. I >>have another workstation connected to the kermit workstation using the >>same version of kermit. >> >>The problem that i'm having is that I can't access the network drives on >>the kermit server. When i issue a REMOTE DIR command from the other >>workstation I get an error message stating that device is unavailable. >>I also get this error message anytime i issue a REMOTE command. I can >>however issue REMOTE CD A:\ and then REMOTE DIR and i can get a >>directory of the floppy. I can even send/receive files from the floppy, >>but i can't do anything to the novell network drive. Is there a known >>incompatability between MS-DOS KERMIt and novell's vlm's? Any help that >>can be offered would be appreciated. >> >>Joel T. Augard >>Aesculapian Concepts > --------- > Joel, > This isn't an MS-DOS Kermit problem at all, but rather the way > you have the workstation and its NW login script and perhaps net.cfg > composed. MSK does not use IPX, so all IPX and above features are completely > independent of MSK. VLMs handle IPX work. To check things I recommend you look > at drive mappings, by first bringing MSK out of server mode. > Also, MSK v3.11 is very old indeed and I recommend you upgrade to > the current release, v3.14, or even the current open beta 3.15. > Joe D. --------- Adding to my own chatter after thinking about the situation again. MSK 3.11 supports Packet Drivers but not ODI drivers. Later versions (3.14 is current, 3.15 is in beta) support both. This suggests maybe the workstation is setup to use a PD for TCP/IP but has no NetWare connectivity at that time. Should that be the case then again upgrading MSK will permit you to dispense with the Packet Driver (unless under Windows) and run straight over ODI. Also, MSK 3.11 puts the screen rollback buffer in conventional memory (640KB stuff), and later versions can use expanded and (v3.15) extended as well. Screen rollback memory can get huge (at 4KB per screen) and if left in conventional memory there won't be space to do anything else. Joe D. From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Fri May 16 23:18:18 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA01277 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 23:18:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA12416 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 16 May 1997 23:18:17 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.eecs.umich.edu!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!208.197.151.4!news.esinet.net!news1.cstone.net!news.accessone.com!not-for-mail From: poetryman@writeme.com Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: problems w/ c-kermit file transfer Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 08:56:56 -0700 Organization: AccessOne Lines: 98 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: ws51.tfmg.com X-Newsreader: Anawave Gravity v1.10 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7038 I use ckermit to do file transfers between a creaky old VAX and several VAXes and ALPHAs around North America. I've always been able to tweak the configurations of each to where my file transfers were successful, However, there is one site to which attemped transfers simply won't work when using ckermit. I can acheive the same transfer between the same 2 computers using an older version of kermit and using WRQ's Reflection protocol. My employer has directed me to make it work at this one site, rather than to use the alternate file transfer methods that do work. I have attempted to modify the following parameters: timeout (this gets me an error-out quicker) packet length (from 64 to 512) The following match on the 2 computers: speed (9600) mode (local) modem (hayes) terminal bits (7) parity (none) duplex (full) flow (xon/xoff) handshake (none) carrier (auto) names (converted) type (labeled) Actually, everything on the 2 computers matches; I only listed the ones that seem significant. Any ideas on how to make this succeed? Since my outbound e-mail is unreliable, I'd prefer to keep the discussion of this problem here in the newsgroup. Which VMS versions in use? On the remote computer (mine) VMS 6.2 On the host computer (to which I'm sending files) VMS 5.5-2 this is a very common VMS version for my clients, and all of the other sites work ok with ckermit transfers from my VAX. Which version of C-Kermit? 5A(188) on each; the hosts use a copy of mine. What kind of file is it? binary Symptoms? S%T%T%T%...T% "?Too Many Retries" [at that point it times out & returns me to the prompt on the station from which I am sending) (remember: I can accomplish this transmittal using the same computers/phone lines/modem, but different software, or the same lines/modem and a pc-vax connection with different software) Text of PACKET.LOG? s-00-00-_0 S~4 @-#Y3~N*%DS r-224-03-_ r-224-03- S-00-03-_0 S~4 @-#Y3~N*%DS r-xx-23- S-00-23-_0 S~4 @-#Y3~N*%DS r-xx-43- S-00-43-_0 S~4 @-#Y3~N*%DS r-xx-03- S-00-03-_0 S~4 @-#Y3~N*%DS r-xx-23- S-00-23-_0 S~4 @-#Y3~N*%DS r-xx-43- S-00-43-_0 S~4 @-#Y3~N*%DS r-xx-03- S-00-03-_0 S~4 @-#Y3~N*%DS r-xx-23- S-00-23-_0 S~4 @-#Y3~N*%DS r-xx-43- S-00-43-_0 S~4 @-#Y3~N*%DS r-xx-09- S-00-09-_0 S~4 @-#Y3~N*%DS r-xx-29- S-00-29-_0 S~4 @-#Y3~N*%DS r-xx-49- s-00-49-_4 EToo many retries.O From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Sat May 17 10:15:19 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA23176 for ; Sat, 17 May 1997 10:15:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA03843 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sat, 17 May 1997 10:15:18 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: problems w/ c-kermit file transfer Date: 17 May 1997 14:15:17 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 64 Message-ID: <5lkehl$3o1$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7039 In article , wrote: : I use ckermit to do file transfers between a creaky old VAX and several : VAXes and ALPHAs around North America. I've always been able to tweak the : configurations of each to where my file transfers were successful, : : However, there is one site to which attemped transfers simply won't work : when using ckermit. I can acheive the same transfer between the same 2 : computers using an older version of kermit and using WRQ's Reflection : protocol. : : My employer has directed me to make it work at this one site, rather than : to use the alternate file transfer methods that do work. : : Any ideas on how to make this succeed? Since my outbound e-mail is : unreliable, I'd prefer to keep the discussion of this problem here in the : newsgroup. : : Which VMS versions in use? : On the remote computer (mine) VMS 6.2 : On the host computer (to which I'm sending files) VMS 5.5-2 : this is a very common VMS version for my clients, and all of the other : sites work ok with ckermit transfers from my VAX. : : Which version of C-Kermit? : 5A(188) on each; the hosts use a copy of mine. : The current version is 6.0: http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/ck60.html : What kind of file is it? : binary : So it probably contains 8-bit data. : Symptoms? : S%T%T%T%...T% : "?Too Many Retries" : [at that point it times out & returns me to the prompt on the station : from which I am sending) : : (remember: I can accomplish this transmittal using the same : computers/phone lines/modem, but different software, or the same : lines/modem and a pc-vax connection with different software) : : Text of PACKET.LOG? : s-00-00-_0 S~4 @-#Y3~N*%DS : r-224-03- : This indicates that an invalid sequence number, 224, was received (63 is the maximum possible sequence number). You evidently have a very basic communication problem; something is seriously corrupting the packets coming from the file receiver. I would be tempted to say, try "set parity space", but I think the problem is more serious than that. The first packet should have a sequence number of 0, but 224 is nowhere near 0+parity. You either have an EXTREMELY noisy connection, a massive failure of flow control, or both, and possibly also the addition of parity and maybe also an echo back from the modem. Try the transfer again, but this time with "log debug". Then send the debug.log file to kermit-support@columbia.edu. - Frank From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Sat May 17 10:29:26 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA24757 for ; Sat, 17 May 1997 10:29:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA04264 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sat, 17 May 1997 10:29:25 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news-peer.gsl.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.wwa.com!not-for-mail From: Jim Jacobus Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Script Input Error Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 09:29:23 -0500 Organization: WorldWide Access (tm) - Midwestern Internet Services http://www.wwa.com Lines: 15 Message-ID: <337DC0C3.5D6B@wwa.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: pool4-012.wwa.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7040 I'm trying to write a telnet script using VMS C-kermit 6.0.192 to connect to a NT system. NT system uses the Pragma s/w for telent emulation. I can't get a response back from my script. I have an "input 5 login:" which should work, but I always get an error from my VMS Kermit: ? Can't condition line for INPUT What does this error mean. Is it documented in the Using C-Kermit manual? TIA Jim From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Sat May 17 10:32:36 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA26960 for ; Sat, 17 May 1997 10:32:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA04383 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sat, 17 May 1997 10:32:35 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Script Input Error Date: 17 May 1997 14:32:34 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 26 Message-ID: <5lkfi2$48t$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu> References: <337DC0C3.5D6B@wwa.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7041 In article <337DC0C3.5D6B@wwa.com>, Jim Jacobus wrote: : I'm trying to write a telnet script using VMS C-kermit 6.0.192 to : connect to a NT system. NT system uses the Pragma s/w for telent : emulation. : : I can't get a response back from my script. I have an : "input 5 login:" which should work, but I always get an error from : my VMS Kermit: : ? Can't condition line for INPUT : : What does this error mean. Is it documented in the Using C-Kermit : manual? : No. It indicates some kind of internal error which should not happen. Most likely it is caused by a mismatch of the VMS version or TCP/IP product and/or version that your copy of C-Kermit was built for and the one(s) you are actually using. What version of VMS do you have? What TCP/IP product do you have? What version of it? Did you build C-Kermit yourself from source code? Or are you using one of the prebuilt binaries? If so, which one? - Frank From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Sat May 17 10:47:21 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA29087 for ; Sat, 17 May 1997 10:47:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA05078 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sat, 17 May 1997 10:47:20 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!news.msfc.nasa.gov!europa.clark.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!news.wwa.com!not-for-mail From: Jim Jacobus Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Script Input Error Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 09:47:07 -0500 Organization: PonyXPress Horse Transport Lines: 37 Message-ID: <337DC4EB.19AE@wwa.com> References: <337DC0C3.5D6B@wwa.com> <5lkfi2$48t$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: pool4-012.wwa.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) To: Frank da Cruz Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7042 Frank da Cruz wrote: > > In article <337DC0C3.5D6B@wwa.com>, Jim Jacobus wrote: > : I'm trying to write a telnet script using VMS C-kermit 6.0.192 to > : connect to a NT system. NT system uses the Pragma s/w for telent > : emulation. > : > : I can't get a response back from my script. I have an > : "input 5 login:" which should work, but I always get an error from > : my VMS Kermit: > : ? Can't condition line for INPUT > : > : What does this error mean. Is it documented in the Using C-Kermit > : manual? > : > No. It indicates some kind of internal error which should not happen. > Most likely it is caused by a mismatch of the VMS version or TCP/IP product > and/or version that your copy of C-Kermit was built for and the one(s) you > are actually using. > > What version of VMS do you have? VMS 5.5-2 > > What TCP/IP product do you have? What version of it? Multinet V3.5 > > Did you build C-Kermit yourself from source code? Or are you using one of > the prebuilt binaries? If so, which one? Used one of the pre-built ones C-Kermit 6.0.192 release candidate 1. 6 sep 96 for OpenVMS > > - Frank From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Sat May 17 11:36:09 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA07148 for ; Sat, 17 May 1997 11:36:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA06675 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sat, 17 May 1997 11:36:08 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Script Input Error Date: 17 May 1997 15:36:04 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 51 Message-ID: <5lkj94$6gg$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu> References: <337DC0C3.5D6B@wwa.com> <5lkfi2$48t$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu> <337DC4EB.19AE@wwa.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7043 In article <337DC4EB.19AE@wwa.com>, Jim Jacobus wrote: : Frank da Cruz wrote: : > : > In article <337DC0C3.5D6B@wwa.com>, Jim Jacobus wrote: : > : I'm trying to write a telnet script using VMS C-kermit 6.0.192 to : > : connect to a NT system. NT system uses the Pragma s/w for telent : > : emulation. : > : : > : I can't get a response back from my script. I have an : > : "input 5 login:" which should work, but I always get an error from : > : my VMS Kermit: : > : ? Can't condition line for INPUT : > : : > : What does this error mean. Is it documented in the Using C-Kermit : > : manual? : > : : > No. It indicates some kind of internal error which should not happen. : > Most likely it is caused by a mismatch of the VMS version or TCP/IP product : > and/or version that your copy of C-Kermit was built for and the one(s) you : > are actually using. : > : > What version of VMS do you have? : : VMS 5.5-2 : : > What TCP/IP product do you have? What version of it? : : Multinet V3.5 : : > Did you build C-Kermit yourself from source code? Or are you using one of : > the prebuilt binaries? If so, which one? : : Used one of the pre-built ones C-Kermit 6.0.192 release candidate 1. 6 : sep 96 for OpenVMS : Well, we don't have an exact match, but I'd suggest you try one of the following binaries, which are both final releases (not release candidates): ftp://kermit.columbia.edu/kermit/bin/ckvvker-vms54-tgv33d.exe or: ftp://kermit.columbia.edu/kermit/bin/ckvvker-vms55-tgv40a.exe Or, since MultiNet is also supposed to support UCX, you can try: ftp://kermit.columbia.edu/kermit/bin/ckvvker-vms55-ucx33.exe If none of these works, let me know. - Frank From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Sat May 17 19:00:28 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA21052 for ; Sat, 17 May 1997 19:00:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA20763 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sat, 17 May 1997 19:00:27 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.eecs.umich.edu!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!xmission!xmission!not-for-mail From: jjanney@xmission.com (Jim Janney) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Script Input Error Date: 17 May 1997 16:58:11 -0600 Organization: XMission Internet (801 539 0900) Lines: 30 Sender: jjanney@xmission.xmission.com Message-ID: References: <337DC0C3.5D6B@wwa.com> <5lkfi2$48t$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: xmission.xmission.com Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7044 In article <337DC0C3.5D6B@wwa.com>, Jim Jacobus wrote: > I'm trying to write a telnet script using VMS C-kermit 6.0.192 to > connect to a NT system. NT system uses the Pragma s/w for telent > emulation. > > I can't get a response back from my script. I have an > "input 5 login:" which should work, but I always get an error from > my VMS Kermit: > ? Can't condition line for INPUT > > What does this error mean. Is it documented in the Using C-Kermit > manual? FWIW, I got the exact same error writing my first Kermit telnet script. The problem was that I was using the 'telnet' command to connect, e.g. telnet bix.com input 5 login When I changed this to set network tcp/ip set host bix.com input 5 login it started to work as I had intended. -- Jim Janney jjanney@xmission.com, jjanney@bix.com From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Sat May 17 23:40:38 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA25310 for ; Sat, 17 May 1997 23:40:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA29516 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sat, 17 May 1997 23:40:36 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!spool.mu.edu!munnari.OZ.AU!news.ecn.uoknor.edu!feed1.news.erols.com!news-xfer.netaxs.com!netaxs.com!nospam From: nospam@bucket.bit () Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Autostarting DSZ from MS-DOS Kermit Date: 18 May 1997 02:43:50 GMT Organization: Send spam to the bit bucket... Lines: 19 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: unix1.netaxs.com X-No-Archive: Yes X-Newsreader: slrn (0.9.2.1 BETA UNIX) Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7045 According to the man page for "sz" (Unix zmodem) on our system, the following option is available: "g Send ESC-[-?-3-4-l to start DSZ from Kermit" I use MS-Kermit 3.14 as a terminal emulator -- does this version of Kermit support autostarting DSZ in this manner? If so, how to enable this feature? (If available, it seems to be turned off by default.) I've looked in Kermit's online help and done a fair amount of searching using Alta Vista and DejaNews but haven't turned anything up yet on this. Thanks in advance for any followups with useful info... -- Bob Alpert | NOTE: The "From" line in this post has been modified | | to discourage automated commercial e-mail spammers. | | Personal e-mail may be sent to balpert "at" netaxs.com. | | Unsolicited commercial e-mail billed at $500.00 / msg.) | | http:///www.netaxs.com/~balpert | From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Sun May 18 11:51:16 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA23094 for ; Sun, 18 May 1997 11:51:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA22447 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sun, 18 May 1997 11:51:15 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Autostarting DSZ from MS-DOS Kermit Date: 18 May 1997 15:51:11 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 32 Message-ID: <5ln8hf$ltc$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7048 In article , wrote: : According to the man page for "sz" (Unix zmodem) on our system, the : following option is available: : : "g Send ESC-[-?-3-4-l to start DSZ from Kermit" : : I use MS-Kermit 3.14 as a terminal emulator -- does this version of : Kermit support autostarting DSZ in this manner? If so, how to enable : this feature? (If available, it seems to be turned off by default.) : : I've looked in Kermit's online help and done a fair amount of searching : using Alta Vista and DejaNews but haven't turned anything up yet on this. : Thanks in advance for any followups with useful info... : This information applied to old versions of MS-DOS Kermit, and also required that a certain macro be defined on the Kermit end. This feature is no longer available in the same form because the escape sequence cited above conflicted with a later use by DEC in VT terminals. From the KERMIT.BWR file: (2) INCOMPATIBILITIES BETWEEN MS-DOS KERMIT 3.14 AND EARLIER VERSIONS 1. In version 3.13, the escape sequence that invoked the TERMINALR/S macros was changed to control screen writing direction (details in KERMIT.UPD), for compatibility with newer VT terminals. Any host software that sent the TERMINALR/S sequences will need to be converted to send APC sequences. See KERMIT.UPD and the WordPerfect section of this file. A new method that is (a) more flexible, and (b) less likely to conflict with anything else is described in Section 10 of the KERMIT.UPD file. - Frank From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Sun May 18 13:48:34 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA12832 for ; Sun, 18 May 1997 13:48:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA26036 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sun, 18 May 1997 13:48:31 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-west.sprintlink.net!Sprint!news.sprintlink.net!news-stk-11.sprintlink.net!news1.infoave.net!usenet From: Doug L Hoffman Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Kermit binary for Altos Xenix 486 Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 17:30:18 -0400 Organization: Cyber Systems, Inc. Lines: 16 Message-ID: <337CD1EA.549F6951@shopthenet.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.74.122.7 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; Linux 2.0.27 i586) CC: hoffman@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7049 I'm trying to find a kermit binary that will run on an Altos Xenix 486 box. I need to move about 20MB of assorted data files and have no communications software on the Xenix box at all. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Regards, Doug ============================================================================= Doug L. Hoffman, PhD | Cyber Systems, Inc. 3213 NC 62 East | hoffman@shopthenet.net Liberty, NC 27298 | hoffman@vnet.net hoffman@bogus.org ============================================================================= "We can bear neither our shortcomings nor the remedies for them" Titus Livius From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Sun May 18 14:20:26 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA17033 for ; Sun, 18 May 1997 14:20:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA26956 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sun, 18 May 1997 14:20:25 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.eecs.umich.edu!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.wwa.com!not-for-mail From: Jim Jacobus Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Script Input Error Date: Sun, 18 May 1997 13:19:03 -0500 Organization: PonyXPress Horse Transport Lines: 35 Message-ID: <337F4817.6DC2@wwa.com> References: <337DC0C3.5D6B@wwa.com> <5lkfi2$48t$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: pool8-022.wwa.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) To: Jim Janney Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7050 Jim Janney wrote: > > In article <337DC0C3.5D6B@wwa.com>, Jim Jacobus wrote: > > I'm trying to write a telnet script using VMS C-kermit 6.0.192 to > > connect to a NT system. NT system uses the Pragma s/w for telent > > emulation. > > > > I can't get a response back from my script. I have an > > "input 5 login:" which should work, but I always get an error from > > my VMS Kermit: > > ? Can't condition line for INPUT > > > > What does this error mean. Is it documented in the Using C-Kermit > > manual? > > FWIW, I got the exact same error writing my first Kermit telnet > script. The problem was that I was using the 'telnet' command to > connect, e.g. > > telnet bix.com > input 5 login > > When I changed this to > > set network tcp/ip > set host bix.com > input 5 login > > it started to work as I had intended. > > -- > Jim Janney jjanney@xmission.com, jjanney@bix.com ohmygosh! That worked. Thanks. -- Jim From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Sun May 18 15:36:36 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA00638 for ; Sun, 18 May 1997 15:36:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA29357 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sun, 18 May 1997 15:36:35 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Kermit binary for Altos Xenix 486 Date: 18 May 1997 19:36:34 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 22 Message-ID: <5lnlo2$slb$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu> References: <337CD1EA.549F6951@shopthenet.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7051 In article <337CD1EA.549F6951@shopthenet.net>, Doug L Hoffman wrote: : I'm trying to find a kermit binary that will run on an Altos Xenix 486 : box. I need to move about 20MB of assorted data files and have no : communications software on the Xenix box at all. Any help would be : greatly appreciated. : As you probably know, that's a UNIX C-Kermit binary we don't have in our collection: http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/ck60ubin.html We'd like to add it. C-Kermit 6.0 sources can be found at: http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/ck60.html And the Altos 486 Xenix version can be built with "make altos". If anybody has, or can make, this binary, please let Doug know, and me too. Thanks! - Frank From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Sun May 18 15:47:50 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA02224 for ; Sun, 18 May 1997 15:47:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA29652 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sun, 18 May 1997 15:47:49 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Script Input Error Date: 18 May 1997 19:47:48 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 43 Message-ID: <5lnmd4$sui$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu> References: <337DC0C3.5D6B@wwa.com> <5lkfi2$48t$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu> <337F4817.6DC2@wwa.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7052 In article <337F4817.6DC2@wwa.com>, Jim Jacobus wrote: : Jim Janney wrote: : > In article <337DC0C3.5D6B@wwa.com>, Jim Jacobus wrote: : > > I'm trying to write a telnet script using VMS C-kermit 6.0.192 to : > > connect to ... : > > I can't get a response back from my script. I have an : > > "input 5 login:" which should work, but I always get an error from : > > my VMS Kermit: : > > ? Can't condition line for INPUT : > ... : > When I changed this to : > : > set network tcp/ip : > set host bix.com : > input 5 login : > : > it started to work as I had intended. : : ohmygosh! That worked. Thanks. -- Jim : Right. TELNET xxx means (roughly) "set network tcp/ip, set host xxx, if success connect". In other words, TELNET at the Kermit prompt does roughly what "telnet" at the system prompt would do. But scripts do not execute while in CONNECT mode. CONNECT (or TELNET) is just another command in the script; the next command is executed after Kermit reterns from CONNECT mode. Of course this is documented in the manual, which also shows numerous examples of how to write scripts for Telnet connections, using SET HOST. If your script looked like this: telnet blah input 10 login: then probably what happened is you got the interactive terminal screen, saw the login prompt, and then logged out or disconnected. At this point Kermit returns to its command processor and executes the INPUT command, but at this point the connection has been closed, and hence the message: ?Can't condition line for INPUT - Frank From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Mon May 19 09:47:41 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA27718 for ; Mon, 19 May 1997 09:47:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA20884 for kermit.misc@watsun; Mon, 19 May 1997 09:47:41 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.eecs.umich.edu!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.wwa.com!not-for-mail From: Jim Jacobus Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Script Input Error Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 08:46:40 -0500 Organization: PonyXPress Horse Transport Lines: 47 Message-ID: <338059C0.409B@wwa.com> References: <337DC0C3.5D6B@wwa.com> <5lkfi2$48t$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu> <337F4817.6DC2@wwa.com> <5lnmd4$sui$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: pool7-050.wwa.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7053 Frank da Cruz wrote: > > In article <337F4817.6DC2@wwa.com>, Jim Jacobus wrote: > : Jim Janney wrote: > : > In article <337DC0C3.5D6B@wwa.com>, Jim Jacobus wrote: > : > > I'm trying to write a telnet script using VMS C-kermit 6.0.192 to > : > > connect to ... > : > > I can't get a response back from my script. I have an > : > > "input 5 login:" which should work, but I always get an error from > : > > my VMS Kermit: > : > > ? Can't condition line for INPUT > : > ... > : > When I changed this to > : > > : > set network tcp/ip > : > set host bix.com > : > input 5 login > : > > : > it started to work as I had intended. > : > : ohmygosh! That worked. Thanks. -- Jim > : > Right. TELNET xxx means (roughly) "set network tcp/ip, set host xxx, if > success connect". In other words, TELNET at the Kermit prompt does roughly > what "telnet" at the system prompt would do. > > But scripts do not execute while in CONNECT mode. CONNECT (or TELNET) is > just another command in the script; the next command is executed after > Kermit reterns from CONNECT mode. Of course this is documented in the > manual, which also shows numerous examples of how to write scripts for > Telnet connections, using SET HOST. > > If your script looked like this: > > telnet blah > input 10 login: > > then probably what happened is you got the interactive terminal screen, > saw the login prompt, and then logged out or disconnected. At this point > Kermit returns to its command processor and executes the INPUT command, > but at this point the connection has been closed, and hence the message: > > ?Can't condition line for INPUT > > - Frank Thanks for clearing that up. That was my error. -- Jim From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Tue May 20 21:19:54 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA21611 for ; Tue, 20 May 1997 21:18:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA05607 for kermit.misc@watsun; Tue, 20 May 1997 21:18:31 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!news.uoregon.edu!hammer.uoregon.edu!ais.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!feeder.chicago.cic.net!newsspool.doit.wisc.edu!wiscnews.wiscnet.net!axp1.cpg.mcw.edu!brodie From: brodie@axp1.cpg.mcw.edu (Kent C Brodie) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Ckermit and CD broken (VMS, ALPHA) --more-- Date: 20 May 97 15:48:56 CDT Lines: 39 Message-ID: <1997May20.154856@axp1.cpg.mcw.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: axp1.cpg.mcw.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7058 Aaron and I have been having some offline discussions. The DECC RTL may be part of the issue-- but this doesn't break on just search lists. Frank, anyone? This is quite serious. "CD" simply does NOT work. (Alpha VMS, V6.2). See the following example: DISK$AXPPROD:[SOURCE.CKERMIT.V60.SOURCE] C-Kermit>cd download: download:: no such file or directory DISK$AXPPROD:[SOURCE.CKERMIT.V60.SOURCE] C-Kermit>cd download download: no such file or directory DISK$AXPPROD:[SOURCE.CKERMIT.V60.SOURCE] C-Kermit>cd sys$system: sys$system:: no such file or directory DISK$AXPPROD:[SOURCE.CKERMIT.V60.SOURCE] C-Kermit>set def disk$array6:[download] disk$array6:[download]: no such file or directory DISK$AXPPROD:[SOURCE.CKERMIT.V60.SOURCE] C-Kermit> Returning you to VMS now. axp1> show log download "DOWNLOAD" = "DISK$ARRAY6:[DOWNLOAD]" (LNM$SYSTEM_TABLE) axp1> dir download DISK$ARRAY6:[DOWNLOAD] ...... -- Kent C. 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Follow the link and enjoy... http://www.cybercity.hko.net/LA/interbbs/index.htm From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Wed May 21 09:09:32 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA20830 for ; Wed, 21 May 1997 09:09:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA17098 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 21 May 1997 09:09:31 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Ckermit and CD broken (VMS, ALPHA) --more-- Date: 21 May 1997 13:09:25 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 18 Message-ID: <5lus65$gm8$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu> References: <1997May20.154856@axp1.cpg.mcw.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7061 In article <1997May20.154856@axp1.cpg.mcw.edu>, Kent C Brodie wrote: : Aaron and I have been having some offline discussions. The DECC RTL : may be part of the issue-- but this doesn't break on just search lists. : : Frank, anyone? This is quite serious. "CD" simply does NOT : work. (Alpha VMS, V6.2). : I know. Actually, it seems to work everywhere but Alpha VMS 6.2 or later. But it's definitely a bug. There's a source-level patch for it in the PATCHES file (Patch 0016): ftp://kermit.columbia.edu/kermit/f/PATCHES I hope to have a maintenance release ready for Alpha testing within a week or two. - Frank From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Wed May 21 09:17:25 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA22240 for ; Wed, 21 May 1997 09:17:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA17756 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 21 May 1997 09:17:24 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!news.cs.columbia.edu!psinntp!howland.erols.net!feed1.news.erols.com!newsfeeds.sol.net!uwm.edu!newsspool.doit.wisc.edu!wiscnews.wiscnet.net!axp1.cpg.mcw.edu!brodie From: brodie@axp1.cpg.mcw.edu (Kent C Brodie) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc,comp.os.vms Subject: Ckermit/VAX VS. ALPHA, and CD behavior changed! Date: 19 May 97 11:31:55 CDT Lines: 15 Message-ID: <1997May19.113155@axp1.cpg.mcw.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: axp1.cpg.mcw.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7062 comp.os.vms:153009 Hello. We're using C-Kermit (6.0.192), and on a VAX, had no problems with the "CD" command. (we could "CD" anywhere we wanted). On our ALPHA, however, "CD" *only* seems to work for directly-connected directories (subdirs, etc). We can no longer "CD" to any other device, whether it's a valid disk and directory, or even a logical name. help? -- Kent C. Brodie - Systems & Network Manager Internet: Medical College of Wisconsin MaBellNet: +1 414 456 5080 Clinical Practice Group (http://www.cpg.mcw.edu/www/staff/brodie.html) "Keep your hands and feet inside the ride at all times..." From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Wed May 21 09:35:18 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA26663 for ; Wed, 21 May 1997 09:35:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA18990 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 21 May 1997 09:35:17 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Announcing MS-DOS Kermit 3.15 Beta 21 Date: 19 May 1997 20:55:21 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 32 Message-ID: <5lqenp$ag2$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7063 The status-line clock now can show elapsed time for the current connection via SET TERMINAL CLOCK { ON, OFF, ELAPSED-TIME }. ON shows time of day, ELAPSED-TIME shows elapsed time. Also the clock sampling and display mechanism has been adjusted to prevent flickering in Windows, and so now is ON by default for both DOS and Windows 3.x. The elapsed-time clock can also be set back to 0 with the new RESET CLOCK command. New \Kdebug Kverb added, to toggle SET DEBUG SESSION while in CONNECT mode, and assigned to Alt-d by default. This removes the necessity to escape back, SET DEBUG SESSION, and reconnect to get terminal-screen debugging, and then escape back, SET DEBUG OFF, and reconnect to turn it off again. \Kreset (reset the terminal emulator) assigned to Alt-r for compatibility with Kermit 95. It is also still on Alt-=, as before. Additional TCP/IP stack monitoring and debugging facilities, described in MSK315.DOC. Beta 21 is at: ftp://kermit.columbia.edu/kermit/test/bin/msk315.zip As with the previous Betas, download this one into your regular MS-DOS Kermit 3.14 directory and unzip it. It makes MSK315.EXE and MSK315.DOC files which do not conflict with your current installation. To test, just run MSK315 instead of KERMIT. Send reports to kermit-support@columbia.edu. Thanks as always to JRD! - Frank From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Thu May 22 03:04:52 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA02012 for ; Thu, 22 May 1997 03:04:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA16242 for kermit.misc@watsun; Thu, 22 May 1997 03:04:51 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!news.cs.columbia.edu!psinntp!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.wwa.com!news.voicenet.com!omni2!cmosley From: cmosley@voicenet.com (Christopher Mosley) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Autostarting DSZ from MS-DOS Kermit Date: 19 May 1997 18:23:49 GMT Organization: Voicenet - Internet Access - (215)674-9290 Lines: 160 Message-ID: <5lq5rl$tp$2@news3.voicenet.com> References: <5ln8hf$ltc$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: omni2.voicenet.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7064 Frank da Cruz (fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu) wrote: : In article , : wrote: : : According to the man page for "sz" (Unix zmodem) on our system, the : : following option is available: : : : : "g Send ESC-[-?-3-4-l to start DSZ from Kermit" : : : : I use MS-Kermit 3.14 as a terminal emulator -- does this version of : : Kermit support autostarting DSZ in this manner? If so, how to enable : : this feature? (If available, it seems to be turned off by default.) : : : : I've looked in Kermit's online help and done a fair amount of searching : : using Alta Vista and DejaNews but haven't turned anything up yet on this. : : Thanks in advance for any followups with useful info... : : : This information applied to old versions of MS-DOS Kermit, and also required : that a certain macro be defined on the Kermit end. This feature is no longer : available in the same form because the escape sequence cited above conflicted : with a later use by DEC in VT terminals. From the KERMIT.BWR file: : (2) INCOMPATIBILITIES BETWEEN MS-DOS KERMIT 3.14 AND EARLIER VERSIONS : 1. In version 3.13, the escape sequence that invoked the TERMINALR/S macros : was changed to control screen writing direction (details in KERMIT.UPD), : for compatibility with newer VT terminals. Any host software that sent : the TERMINALR/S sequences will need to be converted to send APC sequences. : See KERMIT.UPD and the WordPerfect section of this file. : A new method that is (a) more flexible, and (b) less likely to conflict with : anything else is described in Section 10 of the KERMIT.UPD file. : - Frank **************************************************************************** ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ defined in mscustom.ini file. if dsz def is not the same it is probably similar. gsz or dsz must be in path define rz run gsz F ha on port 2 G rz -r --------------------------------------------------------------------------- for use in unix scripts and aliases easier not to type control chars also better not to have control chars in scripts: apc comand sequence will be implemented with some viewers. use gcc apc_echo.c #include void main(int argc,char *argv[]){ printf("^[_ %s\n^[\\",argv[1]);} /* p.s. use real control not ^ and [ */ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- script for auto downloading file #!/bin/sh apc_echo "rz,output \13" sz $* ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- # csh alias for downloading file # must not be named sz - recursion occurs alias szz 'apc_echo "output sz \!*\13,rz,output \13"' better way is: alias szz 'apc_echo "rz,output \13";sz \!*' -------------------------------------------------------------------------- something else script for downloading and viewing mime type images directly from lynx, tin. Name of script must be specified in .mailcap metamail file i.e. image/*;scriptname %s #!/bin/sh picture=`echo $1 | cut -c6-` prefix=`echo $picture | cut -c1-3` #prefix and suffix transposed for tin mime encoded files if test $prefix = "mm." then newname=`echo $1 | cut -c10-`.mm mv $1 /tmp/$newname apc_echo "rz,run view.bat $newname,clear apc" sz /tmp/$newname else apc_echo "rz,run view.bat $picture,clear apc" sz $1 fi ----------- view.bat @echo off rem stuffit is free resident keyboard buffer stuffer at oakland stuffit 'ex'13 'view2 %1'13 > nul exit ----------- view2.bat @echo off rem unload resident stuffer stuffit /R > nul rem runme is bat file for " free "DISPLAY" viewer call runme %1 rem run kermit and connect again msk315 stay,output ^W, c p.s. It is not necessary to do it like this (exit kermit and restart kermit) did it to save memory. _________________________________________________________________________ From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Thu May 22 09:14:47 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA08000 for ; Thu, 22 May 1997 09:14:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA16622 for kermit.misc@watsun; Thu, 22 May 1997 09:14:46 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!news.cs.columbia.edu!psinntp!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!natasha.rmii.com!news1.rmi.net!not-for-mail From: blanche@rmi.net (Blanche Cohen) Newsgroups: alt.solaris.x86,comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: solaris x86 help Date: 21 May 1997 16:31:36 GMT Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Lines: 24 Message-ID: <5lv818$312$1@news1.rmi.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: shell.rmi.net Xref: news.columbia.edu alt.solaris.x86:3323 comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7065 I'm running Solaris 2.5.1 on a pentium with a hayes 28.8 modem and can't seem to get the configuration correct. Any and all help appreciated. Here's the dialog kermit> set modem type hayes_high_speed kermit> set line /dev/tty kermit> dial Oops...at this point I don't even get to enter the number. As soon as I type the space after "dial" I get a message that I must SET LINE first. So my question is, to what? I thought /dev/tty was correct. And nothing seems to work. Thanks -- Unsolicited Email of a commercial nature delivered to this address is subject to a $500 charge. Emailing such items, whether automatically or manually, constitutes acceptance of and agreement to this charge. For more info: http://rainbow.rmii.com/~blanche/email.html From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Thu May 22 09:50:10 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA15217 for ; Thu, 22 May 1997 09:50:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA21708 for kermit.misc@watsun; Thu, 22 May 1997 09:50:09 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: alt.solaris.x86,comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: solaris x86 help Date: 22 May 1997 13:50:05 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 29 Message-ID: <5m1iud$l63$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu> References: <5lv818$312$1@news1.rmi.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu alt.solaris.x86:3324 comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7066 In article <5lv818$312$1@news1.rmi.net>, Blanche Cohen wrote: : I'm running Solaris 2.5.1 on a pentium with a hayes 28.8 modem and : can't seem to get the configuration correct. Any and all help : appreciated. : So this is a question about C-Kermit 6.0? : Here's the dialog : : kermit> set modem type hayes_high_speed : kermit> set line /dev/tty : No, not /dev/tty. That's the terminal you are typing commands on. You need to specify the name of device the modem is attached to. : kermit> dial : : Oops...at this point I don't even get to enter the number. As soon as : I type the space after "dial" I get a message that I must SET LINE : first. : : So my question is, to what? I thought /dev/tty was correct. And : nothing seems to work. : Please consult the manual about how to use the software: http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/ck60manual.html - Frank From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Thu May 22 16:42:27 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA10735 for ; Thu, 22 May 1997 16:42:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA04639 for kermit.misc@watsun; Thu, 22 May 1997 16:42:25 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!newsfeed.nacamar.de!Frankfurt.Germany.EU.net!Munich.Germany.EU.net!ibm.de!heidelbg.ibm.com!hursley.ibm.com!ausnews.austin.ibm.com!not-for-mail From: David Greeson Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Transmit drops the last 10-14 characters Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 15:04:17 -0400 Organization: IBM Austin Lines: 24 Message-ID: <338498B1.41C6@raleigh.ibm.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: skyhawk.raleigh.ibm.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (X11; I; AIX 1) Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7067 Hi, I'm using C-Kermit's transmit command to transfer an ascii file out of a serial port to an embedded uP. I'm running Linux v1.2.29 and I don't remember the C-Kermit version, but I down loaded the version two months ago. I set the following items: set line /dev/cua0 set speed 19200 set file type binary (so it will transfer a byte at a time) set flow xon Then I set the uP to receive the ascii file and type crtl-\c C-kermit> transmit foo.bar The uP receives the whole file except for the last 10-14 characters. The com port has a 16550A uart. I was wondering if C-Kermit opened the device; transmitted the file; Then closed the device before all the characters were transmitted? Is there a setup option that I missed? Thanks, David From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Thu May 22 16:55:09 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA12913 for ; Thu, 22 May 1997 16:55:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA05797 for kermit.misc@watsun; Thu, 22 May 1997 16:55:08 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc,comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: Transmit drops the last 10-14 characters Date: 22 May 1997 20:55:07 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 35 Message-ID: <5m2brb$5l3$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu> References: <338498B1.41C6@raleigh.ibm.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7068 comp.os.linux.misc:195215 In article <338498B1.41C6@raleigh.ibm.com>, David Greeson wrote: : I'm using C-Kermit's transmit command to transfer an : ascii file out of a serial port to an embedded uP. I'm : running Linux v1.2.29 and I don't remember the C-Kermit : version, but I down loaded the version two months ago. : I set the following items: : : set line /dev/cua0 : set speed 19200 : set file type binary (so it will transfer a byte at a time) : set flow xon : : Then I set the uP to receive the ascii file and type crtl-\c : C-kermit> transmit foo.bar : : The uP receives the whole file except for the last 10-14 : characters. The com port has a 16550A uart. : But what about the microprocessor? Does it have a buffered UART? Does it do flow control? : I was wondering : if C-Kermit opened the device; transmitted the file; Then : closed the device before all the characters were transmitted? : That might have happened under 4.2BSD, but Linux is based on System V &/or POSIX, in which a close() call ensures that all pending output is flushed. If it's not doing that I think we have an OS or driver bug. But before jumping to conclusions, how do we know that Kermit did not send all the bytes? Have you put a data scope on the line? - Frank From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Thu May 22 17:51:02 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA23250 for ; Thu, 22 May 1997 17:51:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA11026 for kermit.misc@watsun; Thu, 22 May 1997 17:51:02 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.eecs.umich.edu!news.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!eerie.fr!cnusc.fr!univ-lyon1.fr!jussieu.fr!iway.fr!news1.isdnet.net!usenet From: SkizoWalker Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: SDK - SourceCode Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 23:51:28 +0200 Organization: -:+:- MoDEL -:+:- Lines: 9 Message-ID: <3384BFE0.6E1E@hol.fr> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp6.bdx.hol.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01Gold (Win95; I) Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7069 Hi ppl ! iam right now Programming a terminal programm for win95 (with Visual C/C++ 4.2 ) and would like to implement Kermit protocol , where could i get the Source code or the Lib ? (or SDK) can some1 help me ? please email me if so to Skizo@hol.fr i would be really gratefull ! From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Thu May 22 18:18:22 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA27238 for ; Thu, 22 May 1997 18:18:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA13191 for kermit.misc@watsun; Thu, 22 May 1997 18:18:21 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-east.sprintlink.net!news-dc-26.sprintlink.net!Sprint!news.sprintlink.net!news-atl-21.sprintlink.net!ralph.vnet.net!not-for-mail From: spanosa@vnet.net (spanosa) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: C-Kermit hangup problem Date: 22 May 1997 21:56:06 GMT Organization: Vnet Internet Access, Inc. - Charlotte, NC. (704) 374-0779 Lines: 41 Message-ID: <5m2fdm$t7g$1@ralph.vnet.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: katie.vnet.net Keywords: Kermit X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 950824BETA PL0] Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7070 I'm running C-Kermit 6.0.192 for Linux (Version 2.0.29 running on a Pentium box) and have a problem getting it to hangup. I've written a script to download some binary files on a BBS. The script works fine up to the point when it says "quit" or "exit" at which point Kermit responds: A serial connection might still be active on /dev/modem. OK to exit? Kermit will not shut down until I have hit "y." I've tried sending "+++ath" instead of "hangup" and everything else I can think of. I need to run this script on a cron process so as to automatically update a web page. Obviously being forced to interact with the modem is of no value. I would be most grateful for any advice. Thaks Ari Spanos -- +----------------------+---------------------------------+ | Ari Spanos | E-mail: spanosa@vnet.net | | Totalsports Inc. | | +----------------------+---------------------------------+ | "to travel hopefully is a better thing than to arrive" | | Robert Louis Stevenson | | Virginibus Puerisque | +--------------------------------------------------------+ -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6.2 mQCNAzFfEo4AAAEEAM1KB6nDI2OYC1tyoqediGipl1sj88hyOpF8Sgj502jdHdYY Ds/3Y7G2wSIsMJyAZIpKyzMhp99dsyL/glXR+NsEhR0BSQQy4iSJqNZOI7GYr7cg gpJQDvst+jl9O8c9ou2o/iIlvHFAChYC8oFaekX/uPB0PProJ5T3zXxFchqRAAUR tB5BcmkgU3Bhbm9zIDxwdG9sZW15QG5hbmRvLm5ldD4= =yv3j -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Thu May 22 18:39:14 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA01845 for ; Thu, 22 May 1997 18:39:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA15136 for kermit.misc@watsun; Thu, 22 May 1997 18:39:13 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: C-Kermit hangup problem Date: 22 May 1997 22:39:12 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 49 Message-ID: <5m2hug$eot$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu> References: <5m2fdm$t7g$1@ralph.vnet.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Keywords: Kermit Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7071 In article <5m2fdm$t7g$1@ralph.vnet.net>, spanosa wrote: : : I'm running C-Kermit 6.0.192 for Linux (Version 2.0.29 running : on a Pentium box) and have a problem getting it to hangup. I've : written a script to download some binary files on a BBS. The : script works fine up to the point when it says "quit" or : "exit" at which point Kermit responds: : : A serial connection might still be active on /dev/modem. : OK to exit? : The message means that a serial connection might still be active on /dev/modem. In other words, at the point where your "quit" command is executed, the modem is still presenting the carrier signal. Kermit is being nice and warning you about this, since most people don't exit from a communications program while the connection is still open. : Kermit will not shut down until I have hit "y." I've tried : sending "+++ath" instead of "hangup" and everything else I : can think of. : : I need to run this script on a cron process so as to : automatically update a web page. Obviously being forced to : interact with the modem is of no value. : : I would be most grateful for any advice. : You can fix the underlying problem or you can fix the symptom. The methods are described in detail in the manual, "Using C-Kermit". If your script is logging out from the remote system, this should cause the remote system to hang up its end of the phone call, which stops the carrier signal, and this in turn should cause your modem to turn off its CD signal, which in turn should prevent the message. Check your modem's configuration -- do you have it forcing CD up all the time, rather than following carrier, as it should? If so, change the modem's configuration; for example, add "&C1" to its init string, e.g. set modem command init \freplace(\v(m_init),AT,AT&C1) (In the UNIX versions of C-Kermit we don't mess with &Cn, &Sn, &Dn, etc, because this rubs too many sysadmins the wrong way.) Or just change it in your modem and save the configuration. If you really want to log out and exit while the connection is still open, then, as explained on pages 464-465, use "set exit warning off". - Frank From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Fri May 23 03:07:11 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA19181 for ; Fri, 23 May 1997 03:07:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA28860 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 23 May 1997 03:07:10 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!europa.clark.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!news.wildstar.net!news.sdsmt.edu!news.mid.net!news.cjnetworks.com!usenet From: ace@fulldeck.com (Ace O'Diamonds) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Fonts Date: Fri, 23 May 1997 02:56:28 GMT Organization: Tightly Wrapped Heavy Industries Inc. Lines: 11 Sender: ace@fulldeck.com (Ace O'Diamonds) Message-ID: <338d05c7.15463158@news.cjnetworks.com> References: <5m2fdm$t7g$1@ralph.vnet.net> <5m2hug$eot$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu> Reply-To: ace@fulldeck.com (Ace O'Diamonds) NNTP-Posting-Host: port47.cjnetworks.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.01/32.397 X-No-Archive: yes Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7072 Running: windows 95. kermit 1.10 Problem: Sometimes, every so often, the user is not given the choice of 10xX18 for font choice. Why? I want 10x18 when running 800x600 resoution. Sometimes it's there (on bootup) and then it's not (sometime later). I want 10x18 always. -- Ace! From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Fri May 23 10:16:40 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA00559 for ; Fri, 23 May 1997 10:16:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA22418 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 23 May 1997 10:16:40 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Fonts Date: 23 May 1997 14:16:39 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 23 Message-ID: <5m48s7$ls7$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu> References: <5m2fdm$t7g$1@ralph.vnet.net> <5m2hug$eot$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu> <338d05c7.15463158@news.cjnetworks.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7073 In article <338d05c7.15463158@news.cjnetworks.com>, Ace O'Diamonds wrote: : Running: windows 95. kermit 1.10 : : Sometimes, every so often, the user is not given the choice of 10xX18 : for font choice. Why? I want 10x18 when running 800x600 resoution. : Sometimes it's there (on bootup) and then it's not (sometime later). I : want 10x18 always. : One of the sacrifices we make when moving to complicated and proprietary platforms like Windows 95 is the ability to troubleshoot, or even understand, many types of problems. If Windows won't show you the font in its menu, there is certainly nothing Kermit can do about it! Why doesn't it show you the font you want? Who knows. If you browse through the Windows 95 newsgroups, you'll find about 50% of the postings have subject lines like "HELP! My xxxx disappeared!", where "xxxx" can be just about anything: a font, an icon, an application, a device, you name it. Maybe some readers have some more-concrete suggestions. In my experience, once your Windows 95 system starts to deteriorate, which can happen for countless mysterious reasons, you have to reinstall it. - Frank From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Fri May 23 20:35:37 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA19042 for ; Fri, 23 May 1997 20:35:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA23578 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 23 May 1997 20:35:36 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.gsl.net!news.idt.net!oksennus.binary.net!news.mid.net!news.cjnetworks.com!usenet From: ace@fulldeck.com (Ace O'Diamonds) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Fonts Date: Sat, 24 May 1997 00:34:39 GMT Organization: Tightly Wrapped Heavy Industries Inc. Lines: 40 Sender: ace@fulldeck.com (Ace O'Diamonds) Message-ID: <33863636.1620552@news.cjnetworks.com> References: <5m2fdm$t7g$1@ralph.vnet.net> <5m2hug$eot$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu> <338d05c7.15463158@news.cjnetworks.com> <5m48s7$ls7$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu> Reply-To: ace@fulldeck.com (Ace O'Diamonds) NNTP-Posting-Host: port195.cjnetworks.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.01/32.397 X-No-Archive: yes Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7074 On 23 May 1997 14:16:39 GMT, in comp.protocols.kermit.misc, Frank da Cruz wrote: >In article <338d05c7.15463158@news.cjnetworks.com>, >Ace O'Diamonds wrote: >: Running: windows 95. kermit 1.10 >: >: Sometimes, every so often, the user is not given the choice of 10xX18 >: for font choice. Why? I want 10x18 when running 800x600 resoution. >: Sometimes it's there (on bootup) and then it's not (sometime later). I >: want 10x18 always. >: >One of the sacrifices we make when moving to complicated and proprietary >platforms like Windows 95 is the ability to troubleshoot, or even understand, >many types of problems. If Windows won't show you the font in its menu, >there is certainly nothing Kermit can do about it! Why doesn't it show you >the font you want? Who knows. If you browse through the Windows 95 >newsgroups, you'll find about 50% of the postings have subject lines like >"HELP! My xxxx disappeared!", where "xxxx" can be just about anything: >a font, an icon, an application, a device, you name it. > >Maybe some readers have some more-concrete suggestions. In my experience, >once your Windows 95 system starts to deteriorate, which can happen for >countless mysterious reasons, you have to reinstall it. When Kermit 95 comes up, when I make a connection, it always comes up in the smallest font available. "Auto" is what appears in the font selection box. I'm at an age when the next step will be bifocals, so I always change the font to 10X18, which is screen-filling at 800X600 on a 17-inch monitor. Sometimes, though, the system fonts will have disappeared from the font selection list. Oh, the TrueType monospaced fonts are still available, but the system fixed-pixel choices (much better than the TrueType fonts) will have vanished. All I have to do to get them back is reboot. So, I understand and accept your explanation. Wind95 sometimes drives me crazy. -- Ace! From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Sat May 24 09:33:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA21422 for ; Sat, 24 May 1997 09:33:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA23068 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sat, 24 May 1997 09:33:06 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.eecs.umich.edu!news.radio.cz!news.apfel.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!199.232.240.7!kayrad.ziplink.net!not-for-mail From: toomer@ziplink.net (Cynthia) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: ppp connection Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 01:03:08 GMT Organization: Ziplink Lines: 9 Message-ID: <33839a3d.23233546@news.ziplink.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: lowell-ip234.ziplink.net X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.1/32.230 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7075 Are there instructions anywhere on how to use Kermit 95 with a PPP connection to an ISP? I have the Kermit 95 instruction book and Using C Kermit. I can make successful dialup connections. I can also establish a connection with my ISP but when I launch Netscape, nothing happens and eventuallly I'm disconnected. Can Kermit 95 substitute for Windows dial-up networking? What piece am I missing? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ cynthia toomer ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Sat May 24 21:32:28 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA13503 for ; Sat, 24 May 1997 21:32:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA25580 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sat, 24 May 1997 21:32:27 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!jaltman From: jaltman@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Jeffrey Altman) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: ppp connection Date: 25 May 1997 01:32:24 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 18 Message-ID: <5m84r8$ova$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu> References: <33839a3d.23233546@news.ziplink.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7076 In article <33839a3d.23233546@news.ziplink.net>, Cynthia wrote: : Are there instructions anywhere on how to use Kermit 95 with a PPP : connection to an ISP? I have the Kermit 95 instruction book and Using : C Kermit. I can make successful dialup connections. I can also : establish a connection with my ISP but when I launch Netscape, nothing : happens and eventuallly I'm disconnected. Can Kermit 95 substitute : for Windows dial-up networking? What piece am I missing? K95 can not substitute for dial-up networking. You use dial-up networking to establish a PPP connection. Then you can use Netscape to browse and K95 to Telnet and Rlogin over that IP connection. Jeffrey Altman * Sr.Software Designer * Kermit-95 for Win32 and OS/2 The Kermit Project * Columbia University 612 West 115th St #716 * New York, NY * 10025 * (212) 854-1344 http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/k95.html * kermit-support@columbia.edu From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Sun May 25 00:26:30 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA02755 for ; Sun, 25 May 1997 00:26:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA10383 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sun, 25 May 1997 00:26:29 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!europa.clark.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in3.uu.net!194.2.222.39!pressimage!news1.isdnet.net!usenet From: SkizoWalker Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Other Protocol Available ??? Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 06:28:43 +0200 Organization: -:+:- MoDEL -:+:- Lines: 10 Message-ID: <3387BFFB.343@hol.fr> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp46.bdx.hol.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01Gold (Win95; I) Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7077 Hi . Kermit is really interesting , but is there any Free Ware Protocol other than Kermit ?? I know htat Zmodem is not free , but where i could find free source code like kermit on unix but like X/Y Modem or other protocol ? Greetings .. From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Mon May 26 06:20:18 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA03009 for ; Mon, 26 May 1997 06:20:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA16287 for kermit.misc@watsun; Mon, 26 May 1997 06:20:02 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!eerie.fr!cnusc.fr!ciril.fr!univ-angers.fr!jussieu.fr!unilim.fr!cict.fr!laas.fr!not-for-mail From: berry@laas.fr (Jean-Paul Berry) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: cr-->crlf Date: 26 May 1997 10:04:22 GMT Organization: LAAS/CNRS, Toulouse, France Lines: 5 Message-ID: <5mbn76$52d$1@laas.laas.fr> Reply-To: berry@laas.fr NNTP-Posting-Host: tekse.laas.fr Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7081 A microcontroller send me only cr (\13) on a pc-comport. I want transform cr in crlf (\13\10) (terminal emulation). How do that with msdos kerm314? From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Mon May 26 10:27:33 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA22699 for ; Mon, 26 May 1997 10:27:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA09598 for kermit.misc@watsun; Mon, 26 May 1997 10:27:32 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: cr-->crlf Date: 26 May 1997 14:27:32 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 9 Message-ID: <5mc6kk$9bs$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu> References: <5mbn76$52d$1@laas.laas.fr> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7082 In article <5mbn76$52d$1@laas.laas.fr>, Jean-Paul Berry wrote: : : A microcontroller send me only cr (\13) on a pc-comport. : I want transform cr in crlf (\13\10) (terminal emulation). : How do that with msdos kerm314? : SET TERMINAL CR-DISPLAY CRLF - Frank From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Mon May 26 11:02:46 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA28825 for ; Mon, 26 May 1997 11:02:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA12696 for kermit.misc@watsun; Mon, 26 May 1997 11:02:45 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.eecs.umich.edu!news.radio.cz!europa.clark.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.wolsi.com!news.aros.net!news.cs.utah.edu!cc.usu.edu!jrd From: jrd@cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: cr-->crlf Message-ID: <1997May26.082630.98605@cc.usu.edu> Date: 26 May 97 08:26:30 MDT References: <5mbn76$52d$1@laas.laas.fr> Organization: Utah State University Lines: 9 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7083 In article <5mbn76$52d$1@laas.laas.fr>, berry@laas.fr (Jean-Paul Berry) writes: > A microcontroller send me only cr (\13) on a pc-comport. > I want transform cr in crlf (\13\10) (terminal emulation). > How do that with msdos kerm314? ------------- You will need to upgrade to MS-DOS Kermit v3.15 and use the command SET TERMINAL CR-DISPLAY CRLF (or NORMAL). MSK 3.15 is still in open beta so look in directory kermit2/test/bin for msk315.zip, on kermit.columbia.edu. Joe D. From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Mon May 26 23:39:22 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA01602 for ; Mon, 26 May 1997 23:39:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA19085 for kermit.misc@watsun; Mon, 26 May 1997 23:39:20 -0400 (EDT) From: arthur@gateway.dircsa.org.au (Arthur Marsh) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: simple test for controlling terminal? Date: 27 May 1997 06:26:01 +0930 Organization: DIRC - Disability Information & Resource Centre - Sth Australia Lines: 13 Message-ID: <5mctd1$h7f@gateway.dircsa.org.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: apache.dircsa.org.au X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8] Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news-xfer.netaxs.com!feed1.news.erols.com!news.ecn.uoknor.edu!munnari.OZ.AU!news.mel.connect.com.au!news.ade.connect.com.au!duster.adelaide.on.net!news.sa.iinet.net.au!morse.satech.net.au!news.camtech.net.au!news.dircsa.org.au!news.dircsa.org.au!not-for-mail Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7084 Hi, I do have the fine C-Kermit manual, but wondered what the simplest way to get a Kermit script to quit if the script was not run from a serial tty. In other words, what would be the proper C-Kermit script to compare a substring to achieve the same result as: if not (first 8 characters of \$(LOGTTY) = "/dev/tty") then quit -- Arthur Marsh, telephone +61-8-8370-2365, fax +61-8-8223-5082 arthur@dircsa.org.au .endofsig From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Tue May 27 12:06:29 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA19913 for ; Tue, 27 May 1997 12:06:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA20268 for kermit.misc@watsun; Tue, 27 May 1997 12:06:28 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: simple test for controlling terminal? Date: 27 May 1997 16:06:22 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 28 Message-ID: <5mf0pu$jot$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu> References: <5mctd1$h7f@gateway.dircsa.org.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7085 In article <5mctd1$h7f@gateway.dircsa.org.au>, Arthur Marsh wrote: : Hi, I do have the fine C-Kermit manual, but wondered what the simplest : way to get a Kermit script to quit if the script was not run from a serial : tty. : That's a good question. I think the answer would depend on the precise UNIX version and release and configuration. In the general case, UNIX provides no way to tell whether a device is a serial tty or a pseudoterminal. : In other words, what would be the proper C-Kermit script to compare a : substring to achieve the same result as: : : if not (first 8 characters of \$(LOGTTY) = "/dev/tty") then quit : But your login tty is always "/dev/tty". Maybe you have something in the system-wide profile like: export LOGTTY=`tty` String comparison, of course, is the easy part: if not equal "\fsubstring(\$(LOGTTY),1,8)" "/dev/tty" stop 1 blah blah You could do something like make a list of the serial devices on your computer and then look it up in the list (hint: use arrays). - Frank From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Tue May 27 12:08:21 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA20237 for ; Tue, 27 May 1997 12:08:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA20445 for kermit.misc@watsun; Tue, 27 May 1997 12:08:20 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!204.157.34.41!news1.radix.net!news From: Andy Walls Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Other Protocol Available ??? Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 12:00:14 -0400 Organization: EMA, Inc. Lines: 18 Message-ID: <338B050E.50FF@radix.net> References: <3387BFFB.343@hol.fr> Reply-To: andywalls@radix.net NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.86.165.212 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) To: SkizoWalker Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7086 SkizoWalker wrote: > > Kermit is really interesting , but is there any Free Ware > Protocol other than Kermit ?? > > I know htat Zmodem is not free , but where i could find > free source code like kermit on unix but like X/Y Modem > or other protocol ? GNU UUCP has the Zmodem protocol in it (along with f, g, and other protocols). It's subject to the GNU public lisence of course. (Essentially free.) Hope this helps. Andy andywalls@radix.net From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Tue May 27 19:53:10 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA08077 for ; Tue, 27 May 1997 19:53:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA02688 for kermit.misc@watsun; Tue, 27 May 1997 19:53:09 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!194.2.222.39!pressimage!news1.isdnet.net!usenet From: SkizoWalker Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Other Protocol Available ??? Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 01:55:06 +0200 Organization: -:+:- MoDEL -:+:- Lines: 25 Message-ID: <338B745A.213D@hol.fr> References: <3387BFFB.343@hol.fr> <338B050E.50FF@radix.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp41.bdx.hol.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01Gold (Win95; I) Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7087 Andy Walls wrote: > > SkizoWalker wrote: > > > > Kermit is really interesting , but is there any Free Ware > > Protocol other than Kermit ?? > > > > I know htat Zmodem is not free , but where i could find > > free source code like kermit on unix but like X/Y Modem > > or other protocol ? > > GNU UUCP has the Zmodem protocol in it (along with f, g, and > other protocols). > > It's subject to the GNU public lisence of course. > (Essentially free.) > > Hope this helps. > Andy > andywalls@radix.net Thanx for inf o , do you knwo where i could get'em ? sorry for that Lame question !! Mickael From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Thu May 29 11:40:33 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA29417 for ; Thu, 29 May 1997 11:40:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA18723 for kermit.misc@watsun; Thu, 29 May 1997 11:40:27 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!feeder.chicago.cic.net!ftpbox.mot.com!mothost.mot.com!news-in.cig.mot.com!news.ecid.cig.mot.com!merlin!cornellr From: cornellr@merlin.ecid.cig.mot.com (Robert Cornell) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: !READ Date: 29 May 1997 15:23:09 GMT Organization: Motorola Ltd., European Cellular Infrastructure Division Lines: 37 Distribution: world Message-ID: <1997May29.161158@merlin.ecid.cig.mot.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: hobby.ecid.cig.mot.com Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7093 I am having a little difficulty reading from commands that only output a single line such as crypt. I have a program that generates a logfile name. from ksh... $ rat -y /opt/rat/log/none-cornellr.log from kermit... C-Kermit>open !read rat -y C-Kermit>read line C-Kermit>echo \m(line) C-Kermit> Whereas: C-Kermit>open !read ls -l C-Kermit>read line C-Kermit>echo \m(line) total 1768 C-Kermit>read line C-Kermit>echo \m(line) -r-xr-xr-x 1 cornellr a_user 760784 May 14 13:16 kermit C-Kermit>read line C-Kermit>echo \m(line) drwxrwxrwx 2 cornellr a_user 512 May 29 15:38 log C-Kermit>read line C-Kermit>echo \m(line) -rwxr-xr-x 1 cornellr a_user 12972 May 29 15:44 rat C-Kermit> The manual dosen't give much away, just a VMS dir example! I'm sure this ain't a bug, what am I missing? I am using 6.0.192 for Solaris 2.x. ------------------------------------------------- Robert Cornell - cornellr@ecid.cig.mota.com Mountfield +44 1424 432627 Fax +44 1424 441144 Motorola ECID +44 1793 566344 Fax +44 1793 420915 From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Thu May 29 11:54:44 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA01975 for ; Thu, 29 May 1997 11:54:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA19698 for kermit.misc@watsun; Thu, 29 May 1997 11:54:43 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: !READ Date: 29 May 1997 15:54:40 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 37 Message-ID: <5mk8s0$j7g$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu> References: <1997May29.161158@merlin.ecid.cig.mot.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7094 In article <1997May29.161158@merlin.ecid.cig.mot.com>, Robert Cornell wrote: : I am having a little difficulty reading from commands that only output a : single line such as crypt. I have a program that generates a logfile name. : from ksh... : $ rat -y : /opt/rat/log/none-cornellr.log : : from kermit... : C-Kermit>open !read rat -y : C-Kermit>read line : C-Kermit>echo \m(line) : : C-Kermit> : : Whereas: : C-Kermit>open !read ls -l : C-Kermit>read line : C-Kermit>echo \m(line) : total 1768 : : The manual doesn't give much away, just a VMS dir example! : I'm sure this ain't a bug, what am I missing? : The definition of READ and !READ are that they read a "line", a line being some text terminated by a line terminator such as LF, so Kermit is behaving as documented. However, this definition is probably a bit too strict. If you have source code, you can apply Patch 34 from the PATCHES file: http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/f/PATCHES This allows the last or only line to be successfully read even if it is not properly terminated. - Frank From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Thu May 29 12:12:40 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA05690 for ; Thu, 29 May 1997 12:12:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA20753 for kermit.misc@watsun; Thu, 29 May 1997 12:12:39 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!feeder.chicago.cic.net!ftpbox.mot.com!mothost.mot.com!news-in.cig.mot.com!news.ecid.cig.mot.com!merlin!cornellr From: cornellr@merlin.ecid.cig.mot.com (Robert Cornell) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: !READ Date: 29 May 1997 15:49:18 GMT Organization: Motorola Ltd., European Cellular Infrastructure Division Lines: 12 Distribution: world Message-ID: <1997May29.165229@merlin.ecid.cig.mot.com> References: <1997May29.161158@merlin.ecid.cig.mot.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: hobby.ecid.cig.mot.com Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7095 In article <1997May29.161158@merlin.ecid.cig.mot.com>, I wrote: |> (SNIP) |> single line such as crypt. For crypt read uname! Encryption on the brain! %) ------------------------------------------------- Robert Cornell - cornellr@ecid.cig.mota.com Mountfield +44 1424 432627 Fax +44 1424 441144 Motorola ECID +44 1793 566344 Fax +44 1793 420915 From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Thu May 29 22:31:25 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA04465 for ; Thu, 29 May 1997 22:31:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA01098 for kermit.misc@watsun; Thu, 29 May 1997 22:31:24 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!newsxfer.nether.net!news.he.net!nr1.scn.co.jp!news01.so-net.or.jp!infosphere!news.hiroken.or.jp!usenet From: stephlise@telco.com (Steph&Lise.) 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Follow the link and enjoy... http://cybercity.hko.net/la/interbbs/freenet/free.htm From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Thu May 29 23:02:13 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA08756 for ; Thu, 29 May 1997 23:02:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA02999 for kermit.misc@watsun; Thu, 29 May 1997 23:02:12 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news-in-east.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!200.255.253.242!news.embratel.net.br!srv4-poa.nutecnet.com.br!sysadm@nutecnet.com.br From: adfey@nutecnet.com.br (aff) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Don't transfer file from terminal (msk315) to server linux (c-kermit) Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 00:49:15 GMT Organization: NutecNet Lines: 20 Message-ID: <5mlbdj$b0i@srv4-poa.nutecnet.com.br> Reply-To: adfey@nutecnet.com.br NNTP-Posting-Host: 200.248.184.110 X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7097 Hi all I'm trying transfer files from my old pc 386 (run ms-dos kermit 3.15) to my linux box (pentium 133 - c-kermit) but I get an problem. The transfer files from linux to terminal is very ok but in the other side the proccess don't work. When I go to the terminal kermit (after type "receive"in the c-kermit") and run "send xxxx.txt" the kermit say "can't open the file". After the file in the dos system terminal stay locked. Any idea ???? Any help would be appreciated (Any critique to my article or mail would be appreciated too !!!) "Please don't flame. I'm an poor newbie Pentium 133 Mhz, 16 MB, CD ROM 4X SB16 Linux 2.0.27 Slackware 3.1 (96) Boot Disk hda (w95), hdb1 (dos) and hdb2,3 (LINUX) From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Fri May 30 10:23:41 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA05544 for ; Fri, 30 May 1997 10:23:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA00940 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 30 May 1997 10:23:39 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Don't transfer file from terminal (msk315) to server linux (c-kermit) Date: 30 May 1997 14:23:37 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 18 Message-ID: <5mmnt9$ta$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu> References: <5mlbdj$b0i@srv4-poa.nutecnet.com.br> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7098 In article <5mlbdj$b0i@srv4-poa.nutecnet.com.br>, aff wrote: : I'm trying transfer files from my old pc 386 (run ms-dos kermit 3.15) : to my linux box (pentium 133 - c-kermit) but I get an problem. : The transfer files from linux to terminal is very ok but in the other : side the proccess don't work. : When I go to the terminal kermit (after type "receive"in the : c-kermit") and run "send xxxx.txt" the kermit say "can't open the : file". After the file in the dos system terminal stay locked. : : Any idea ???? : It sounds like you did not tell C-Kermit on Linux to "receive". To upload a file from the PC to Linux, you have to log in from the PC to Linux, start Kermit on Linux, tell it to "receive", then escape back to the PC, then tell it to "send xxxx.txt". - Frank From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Fri May 30 10:29:34 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA06562 for ; Fri, 30 May 1997 10:29:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA01423 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 30 May 1997 10:29:33 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Don't transfer file from terminal (msk315) to server linux (c-kermit) Date: 30 May 1997 14:29:28 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 23 Message-ID: <5mmo88$1cc$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu> References: <5mlbdj$b0i@srv4-poa.nutecnet.com.br> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7099 In article <5mlbdj$b0i@srv4-poa.nutecnet.com.br>, aff wrote: : I'm trying transfer files from my old pc 386 (run ms-dos kermit 3.15) : to my linux box (pentium 133 - c-kermit) but I get an problem. : The transfer files from linux to terminal is very ok but in the other : side the proccess don't work. : When I go to the terminal kermit (after type "receive"in the : c-kermit") and run "send xxxx.txt" the kermit say "can't open the : file". After the file in the dos system terminal stay locked. : Oops, sorry, I didn't read your second paragraph carefully enough. From your description, it sounds like you are trying to send a DOS file that has something wrong with it, or you are trying to send the file to a Linux directory to which you lack write permission. First try running CHKDSK on your PC to see if your file system is OK, and make sure you can create files in your Linux destination directory. If all that is OK and you still have a problem, try collecting packet logs on each end ("log packets", creates packet.log file) and send them to: kermit-support@columbia.edu - Frank From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Fri May 30 12:24:58 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA04343 for ; Fri, 30 May 1997 12:24:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA08901 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 30 May 1997 12:24:52 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!pumpkin.pangea.ca!news.mira.net.au!news.vbc.net!vbcnet-west!samba.rahul.net!rahul.net!a2i!dold.a2i!dold From: dold@39.usenet.us.com Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Don't transfer file from terminal (msk315) to server linux (c-kermit) Date: 30 May 1997 16:10:06 GMT Organization: a2i network Lines: 27 Message-ID: <5mmu4u$sac@samba.rahul.net> References: <5mlbdj$b0i@srv4-poa.nutecnet.com.br> <5mmnt9$ta$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu> Reply-To: dold@network.rahul.net NNTP-Posting-Host: foxtrot.rahul.net NNTP-Posting-User: dold X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] X-Comment: Encoded From: line allows replies that preserve original subject Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7100 : aff wrote: : : I'm trying transfer files from my old pc 386 (run ms-dos kermit 3.15) : : to my linux box (pentium 133 - c-kermit) but I get an problem. : : The transfer files from linux to terminal is very ok but in the other : : side the proccess don't work. : : When I go to the terminal kermit (after type "receive"in the : : c-kermit") and run "send xxxx.txt" the kermit say "can't open the : : file". After the file in the dos system terminal stay locked. Frank da Cruz (fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu) wrote: : It sounds like you did not tell C-Kermit on Linux to "receive". To Hmmm. He says he did a "receive". Maybe he was too quick escaping back to the MSK prompt. On a slow Unix system, perhaps the "KERMIT READY TO RECEIVE..." prompt takes a moment to come up. Escaping back to MSK sends an XOFF, preventing the message from appearing, and preventing the transfer from starting. Or XOFF-configured modems causing the line to get in a funny state when the XOFF is sent. Or, maybe permissions in the Unix directory in question? -- --- Clarence A Dold - dold@network.rahul.net - Pope Valley & Napa CA. From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Fri May 30 19:19:54 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA11288 for ; Fri, 30 May 1997 19:19:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA04674 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 30 May 1997 19:19:53 -0400 (EDT) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!ix.netcom.com!georgeb From: georgeb@netcom.com (George H. Bosworth) Subject: Disconnect and [D]TR Problems Message-ID: Followup-To: Poster Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 22:05:26 GMT Lines: 46 Sender: georgeb@netcom5.netcom.com Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7101 I use Kermit 6.0.192 on Solaris 2.5 with a Supra FAXModem 288. After logging out from a remote connection, the modem sends NO CARRIER, and I Cntrl-\-c out, and quit Kermit. Quickly the TR (DTR) light comes on on the modem. How can I: 1. Disconnect more cleanly 2. Turn off the TR light during the exiting. -- George /users/georgeb 245 % more .kermit # Kermit initialization file by George set prompt Susan-Kermit> set quiet on set line /dev/term/b ; Modem device set modem type supra ; Is Supra FAXmodem 288 set modem hangup-method rs232-signal ; One of 2 options set speed 38400 ; Supra is max 28,800 set parity none ; For binary files set terminal bytesize 8 set file type binary ; To transfer binaries OK set file name literal ; Preserve orignal name set receive packet-length 2048 ; Size of one packet set send packet-length 2048 ; Ditto, other way set window 4 ; Send 4 packets before reply set block-check 2 ; Set 2-char, 12-bit checksum # set dial retries 4 define dialit wait 1, dial \%1, xif success { echo , connect, stop, hangup } define netcom do dialit 328-9940 /users/georgeb 246 % kermit C-Kermit 6.0.192, 6 Sep 96, for Solaris 2.x Susan-Kermit>set carrier off Susan-Kermit>connect OK at&v ACTIVE PROFILE: B1 E1 L2 M1 N1 Q0 T V1 W0 X4 Y0 %C3 %E0 %G1 -K0 &C1 &D2 &K0 &Q5 &R1 &S0 &X0 &Y0 S00:000 S01:000 S02:043 S03:013 S04:010 S05:008 S06:002 S07:033 S08:002 S09:012 S10:014 S11:095 S12:050 S18:000 S23:063 S25:005 S26:001 S36:007 S37:000 S38:020 S40:104 S41:131 S44:131 S46:138 S48:007 S91:010 S95:000 S109:062 S110:014 From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Fri May 30 23:03:40 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA07623 for ; Fri, 30 May 1997 23:03:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA21405 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 30 May 1997 23:03:39 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.eecs.umich.edu!news.radio.cz!europa.clark.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news-in-east.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!200.255.253.242!news.embratel.net.br!usenet From: username@embratel.net.br (af2) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Don't transfer file from terminal (msk315) to server linux (c-kermit) Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 05:37:47 GMT Organization: Empresa Brasileira de Telecomunicacoes Lines: 40 Message-ID: <5mnv3p$5gd@rjo02.embratel.net.br> References: <5mlbdj$b0i@srv4-poa.nutecnet.com.br> <5mmnt9$ta$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu> <5mmu4u$sac@samba.rahul.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 200.255.254.165 X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7102 dold@39.usenet.us.com wrote: >: aff wrote: >: : I'm trying transfer files from my old pc 386 (run ms-dos kermit 3.15) >: : to my linux box (pentium 133 - c-kermit) but I get an problem. >: : The transfer files from linux to terminal is very ok but in the other >: : side the proccess don't work. >: : When I go to the terminal kermit (after type "receive"in the >: : c-kermit") and run "send xxxx.txt" the kermit say "can't open the >: : file". After the file in the dos system terminal stay locked. >Frank da Cruz (fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu) wrote: >: It sounds like you did not tell C-Kermit on Linux to "receive". To >Hmmm. He says he did a "receive". >Maybe he was too quick escaping back to the MSK prompt. >On a slow Unix system, perhaps the "KERMIT READY TO RECEIVE..." prompt >takes a moment to come up. Escaping back to MSK sends an XOFF, preventing >the message from appearing, and preventing the transfer from starting. >Or XOFF-configured modems causing the line to get in a funny state when the >XOFF is sent. >Or, maybe permissions in the Unix directory in question? >-- >--- >Clarence A Dold - dold@network.rahul.net > - Pope Valley & Napa CA. Hi Clarence You are right. My problem was the permission in the directory in the c-kermit (linux box). After change the permission all is fine Thank very much Ademar F. Fey adfey@nutecnet.com.br Brasil From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Sat May 31 02:09:22 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA05958 for ; Sat, 31 May 1997 02:09:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA02185 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sat, 31 May 1997 02:09:21 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!news.msfc.nasa.gov!news.maxwell.syr.edu!mindspring!usenet From: David Greeson Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc,comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: Transmit drops the last 10-14 characters Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 02:10:30 -0400 Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Lines: 69 Message-ID: <338FC0D6.69AAE64D@mindspring.com> References: <338498B1.41C6@raleigh.ibm.com> <5m2brb$5l3$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: user-37kbn31.dialup.mindspring.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Server-Date: 31 May 1997 06:09:04 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; Linux 2.0.30 i586) Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7103 comp.os.linux.misc:196607 Frank da Cruz wrote: > > In article <338498B1.41C6@raleigh.ibm.com>, > David Greeson wrote: > : I'm using C-Kermit's transmit command to transfer an > : ascii file out of a serial port to an embedded uP. I'm > : running Linux v1.2.29 and I don't remember the C-Kermit > : version, but I down loaded the version two months ago. > : I set the following items: > : > : set line /dev/cua0 > : set speed 19200 set speed 9600 > : set file type binary (so it will transfer a byte at a time) > : set flow xon > : > : Then I set the uP to receive the ascii file and type crtl-\c > : C-kermit> transmit foo.bar > : > : The uP receives the whole file except for the last 10-14 > : characters. The com port has a 16550A uart. > : > But what about the microprocessor? Does it have a buffered > UART? Does it do flow control? The uP is using XON/XOFF for flow control and has a 16 byte rcv/xmit fifos. Using port diags on the uP, I do not see the last 13 bytes of the file. Also the port has not been overrun'd. I'm downloading s-records and each line has a checksum which is verified. > > : I was wondering > : if C-Kermit opened the device; transmitted the file; Then > : closed the device before all the characters were transmitted? > : > That might have happened under 4.2BSD, but Linux is based on > System V &/or POSIX, in which a close() call ensures that all > pending output is flushed. If it's not doing that I think we have > an OS or driver bug. > > But before jumping to conclusions, how do we know that Kermit did > not send all the bytes? Have you put a data scope on the line? > After the transmit finished, I typed "c" to connect and I could type one character and see that the uP port received the character. Also, if I set the uart type on the PC to 16450 (setserial /dev/cua1 16450), only the last byte is missing. I conclude that the missing bytes are not being transmitted by the PC. But I do not know where the problem is on the PC. I'm assuming that I have missed a setup option in kermit, not that kermit is broken. I'm using ckermit-6.0.192-7.i386.rpm which I installed as root using "rpm -i ckermit ...". I've seen this same problem on two of my new mobo (mtech R418 and R526) which use different chip types for the uarts. On my old 386-40MHz w/16450 uarts, I did not have this problem. I assume it is also processor speed related. I just have upgraded my pc to RedHat v4.2 and I'm using the 2.0.30 kernel. I'm not sure what else to try or how to verify if its a kernel problem. David From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Sat May 31 07:45:19 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA12393 for ; Sat, 31 May 1997 07:45:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA20780 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sat, 31 May 1997 07:45:18 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!natasha.rmii.com!news1.rmi.net!not-for-mail From: blanche@rmi.net (Blanche Cohen) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: x86 solaris and modem speed Date: 31 May 1997 07:35:40 GMT Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Lines: 20 Message-ID: <5mokcc$f6n$1@news1.rmi.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: shell.rmi.net Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7104 Version C-Kermit 6.0.192, for Solaris 2.5.1 x86 - pretty slick! Considering that making PPP work on this thing is a nightmare, Kermit has definitely become a life saver! However, a modem speed problem. I have a Hayes accura 288B, which I assume translates to "hayes-high-speed" and then set the speed to 115200, since the default is 9600. Everything on my side looks good. But when I connect and attempt to download a file, the connection speed is 9600! Is this a problem on the other side (which is only running 5.0) or something I can change? Makes downloading 3 MB files rather time consuming, even when I change the packet length to 1024 instead of the default 90. thanks -- Unsolicited Email of a commercial nature delivered to this address is subject to a $500 charge. Emailing such items, whether automatically or manually, constitutes acceptance of and agreement to this charge. For more info: http://rainbow.rmii.com/~blanche/email.html From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Sat May 31 12:14:10 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA11737 for ; Sat, 31 May 1997 12:14:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA05086 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sat, 31 May 1997 12:14:10 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!worldnet.att.net!cbgw2.lucent.com!nntphub.cb.lucent.com!news From: Hong Hsu Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Can I launch netscape browser via kermit connection? Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 12:14:17 -0400 Organization: Lucent Technologies, Inc. Mass Lines: 18 Message-ID: <33904E59.BA6@lucent.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ftfhi.mv.lucent.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (X11; U; SunOS 5.5 sun4m) Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7105 I have a couple of simple question for Kermit 95 v1.1.11. I have a PC running NT 4.0 and connected with a 28.8k modem at home. I like to dial-up to an account at my office. The system of my office running Solaris 2.5 operating system. In order to file tranfer, do I need to install some software on remote side? Assume Kermit 95 1.1.11 is installed on my PC. After the connection, can I launch a netscape browser at home? It seems Kermit 1.1.11 is more than just a TTY connection. Thank you very much. Hong e-mail honghsu@lucent.com From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Sat May 31 14:09:51 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA26448 for ; Sat, 31 May 1997 14:09:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA11583 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sat, 31 May 1997 14:09:50 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc,comp.unix.solaris Subject: Re: Disconnect and [D]TR Problems Date: 31 May 1997 18:09:49 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 58 Distribution: inet Message-ID: <5mpphd$b9t$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7106 comp.unix.solaris:122273 In article , George H. Bosworth wrote: : I use Kermit 6.0.192 on Solaris 2.5 with a Supra FAXModem 288. : : After logging out from a remote connection, the modem sends NO : CARRIER, and I Cntrl-\-c out, and quit Kermit. Quickly the TR (DTR) : light comes on on the modem. : When you log out from the remote, it hangs up the phone. Your modem sees the connection is hung up and reports NO CARRIER. It is also supposed to turn off its CD signal so Solaris will know the connection is closed, return an error to C-Kermit, so C-Kermit can pop back to its prompt automatically. : How can I: : : 1. Disconnect more cleanly : 2. Turn off the TR light during the exiting. : The HANGUP command turns off DTR for a period of time (usually 1/2 second) and then turns it back on. This is proper behavior. In this case, it doesn't matter since the connection is already hung up. : /users/georgeb 245 % more .kermit <-- You mean .kermrc? : ... ^^^^^^^ : set quiet on : set line /dev/term/b ; Modem device : set modem type supra ; Is Supra FAXmodem 288 : set modem hangup-method rs232-signal ; One of 2 options : All your settings appear to be OK. In particular, you do not seem to have given a SET CARRIER OFF command, which would have explained the behavior that you report. Modem settings: : at&v : ACTIVE PROFILE: : B1 E1 L2 M1 N1 Q0 T V1 W0 X4 Y0 %C3 %E0 %G1 -K0 &C1 &D2 ... : ^^^ This shows that the modem is correctly configured to turn off CD when carrier is dropped. So why isn't Kermit noticing when the call is disconnected? The most logical explanation would be a nonstandard modem cable that loops DTR back to CD. If that's not it, then I'm stumped. Solaris has System-V-like tty drivers, which are supposed to return an error to the application when CD drops and CLOCAL is not set -- which it is not (C-Kermit sets this while dialing, unsets it after the call is completed). This is in contrast to SunOS, which is known not to return an error when a call is hung up and so SunOS C-Kermit never pops back to its prompt automatically on a serial connection. I don't have access to a Solaris system that has a serial port connected to a dialout modem, so I can't troubleshoot this one myself. Can anybody else out there shed any additional light? - Frank From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Sat May 31 14:24:05 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA28280 for ; Sat, 31 May 1997 14:24:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA12267 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sat, 31 May 1997 14:24:04 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: x86 solaris and modem speed Date: 31 May 1997 18:24:01 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 48 Message-ID: <5mpqc1$bv9$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu> References: <5mokcc$f6n$1@news1.rmi.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7107 In article <5mokcc$f6n$1@news1.rmi.net>, Blanche Cohen wrote: : Version C-Kermit 6.0.192, for Solaris 2.5.1 x86 - pretty slick! : Considering that making PPP work on this thing is a nightmare, : Kermit has definitely become a life saver! : : However, a modem speed problem. I have a Hayes accura 288B, which : I assume translates to "hayes-high-speed" ... : Correct... : .. and then set the speed to 115200, since the default is 9600. : Everything on my side looks good. But when I connect and attempt to : download a file, the connection speed is 9600! : So that means the two modems have negotiated a V.32 connection. It was the best they could agree on, either because that is the highest protocol supported by the remote modem, or the highest protocol the two modems had in common, or because the line quality was bad. Or because your modem or the other modem has been instructed to force a V.32 connection (C-Kermit does not do this). : Is this a problem on the other side : (which is only running 5.0) or something I can change? : It has nothing to do with Kermit. Kermit configures the modem minimally in order to make the call. The init string used is: ATQ0X4N1Y0S37=0S82=128\015 ^^ ^^^^^ N1 means "When originating, permit negotiation of a common communication standard at the highest associated line speed supported by both modems. Begin negotiations from the DCE line speed specified in S37..." And S37=0 means "Speed of last AT command issued", in your case 115200. So it seems almost certain that the dropdown in DCE speed is due to the answering modem, or to the connection, but not due to C-Kermit or how you are using it. : Makes downloading 3 MB files rather time consuming, even when I change : the packet length to 1024 instead of the default 90. : You can do a lot better than this. Read about how to optmize file transfer in Chapter 12 of "Using C-Kermit", 2nd edition: http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/ck60manual.html - Frank From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Sat May 31 14:28:23 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA28758 for ; Sat, 31 May 1997 14:28:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA12528 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sat, 31 May 1997 14:28:22 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Can I launch netscape browser via kermit connection? Date: 31 May 1997 18:28:22 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 30 Message-ID: <5mpqk6$c7e$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu> References: <33904E59.BA6@lucent.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7108 In article <33904E59.BA6@lucent.com>, Hong Hsu wrote: : I have a couple of simple question for Kermit 95 v1.1.11. : : I have a PC running NT 4.0 and connected with a 28.8k modem at : home. I like to dial-up to an account at my office. The system of my : office running Solaris 2.5 operating system. : : In order to file tranfer, do I need to install some software on : remote side? Assume Kermit 95 1.1.11 is installed on my PC. : You need the Solaris version of C-Kermit 6.0 on your system at work: http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/ck60.html : After the connection, can I launch a netscape browser at home? : It seems Kermit 1.1.11 is more than just a TTY connection. : Kermit 95 can be a serial communications program or a Telnet client. If you only a have a direct modem connection to you host, then no, you can't use Netscape or other TCP applications on this connection. If have made a SLIP or PPP connection to your host using Windows 95 or NT dialup networking (DUN or RAS), then you can use TCP applications like Netscape on it AND you can use Kermit 95 as your Telnet client, and for that matter as your Telnet application within Netscape. Kermit 95 itself does not make SLIP or PPP connections, however; it only uses one that you have already made with DUN or RAS. This is true of any Windows 95 or NT TCP application. - Frank From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Sat May 31 14:55:18 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA04051 for ; Sat, 31 May 1997 14:55:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA14085 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sat, 31 May 1997 14:55:17 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc,comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: Transmit drops the last 10-14 characters Date: 31 May 1997 18:55:16 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 67 Message-ID: <5mps6k$do2$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu> References: <338498B1.41C6@raleigh.ibm.com> <5m2brb$5l3$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu> <338FC0D6.69AAE64D@mindspring.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7109 comp.os.linux.misc:196675 In article <338FC0D6.69AAE64D@mindspring.com>, David Greeson wrote: (Discussing a problem using Linux C-Kermit to transmit bytes to a microprocessor, but the last few bytes are always lost...) : .... : > : set file type binary (so it will transfer a byte at a time) : > : set flow xon : > : : > : Then I set the uP to receive the ascii file and type crtl-\c : > : C-kermit> transmit foo.bar : > : : > : The uP receives the whole file except for the last 10-14 : > : characters. The com port has a 16550A uart. : : The uP is using XON/XOFF for flow control and has a 16 byte : rcv/xmit fifos. Using port diags on the uP, I do not see : the last 13 bytes of the file. Also the port has not : been overrun'd. I'm downloading s-records and each line : has a checksum which is verified. : ... : After the transmit finished, I typed "c" to connect and I : could type one character and see that the uP port received : the character. Also, if I set the uart type on the PC to : 16450 (setserial /dev/cua1 16450), only the last byte is : missing. : This reinforces my theory about a device driver bug; the last UART buffer's worth is not being flushed out when the device is closed. : I'm not sure what else to try or how to verify if its a kernel : problem. : Get the Kermit source code: ftp://kermit.columbia.edu/kermit/archives/cku192.tar.gz uncompress, untar. Edit the file ckutio.c. Find the ttres() routine (the one that restores the modes and settings of the tty device prior to closing it). A few lines from the top of this routine: #ifdef NETCONN if (netconn) return (0); /* Network connection, do nothing */ #endif /* NETCONN */ sleep(1); /* <--- Add this line */ Save the file, then "make linux". Try your application again. Does it work? If so, this means means that tcsetattr() destroys any pending output, which I would call a bug. If this change did not fix your application, then look for the ttclos() routine in the same source file (ckutio.c). A few lines from the top of ttclos(): if (ttfdflg) /* If we inherited ttyfd from */ return(0); /* another process, don't close it. */ sleep(1); /* <--- Add this line */ Save the file, "make linux" again, repeat the experiment. If this change fixes the problem, it means that close() does not wait for output to drain, which I also would consider a bug. Please let me know what you find. - Frank From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Sun Jun 1 14:54:18 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA12671 for ; Sun, 1 Jun 1997 14:54:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA05877 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sun, 1 Jun 1997 14:54:16 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!feeder.chicago.cic.net!chi-news.cic.net!data.ramona.vix.com!nnrp1.crl.com!not-for-mail From: Etop Udoh Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Kermit for Windows 3.1 or NT Date: 1 Jun 1997 18:47:41 GMT Organization: CRL Dialup Internet Access (415) 705-6060 [Login: guest] Lines: 9 Message-ID: <5msg4d$67c$1@nnrp1.crl.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: crl2.crl.com Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7111 I'm looking for kermit for Windows 3.1 or NT...... -- =========================================================================== | Etop Udoh | Southern Polytechnic State University [89-##] | | P.O. Box 4234 | Iowa State University [84-87] | | Marietta, Ga 30061-4234 | <<< Eudoh@crl.com] >>> <<< Eudoh@sct.edu >>> | | "....D E N Y E V E R Y T H I N G - T R U S T N O O N E...." | |=========================================================================| From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Sun Jun 1 14:59:30 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA13296 for ; Sun, 1 Jun 1997 14:59:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA06144 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sun, 1 Jun 1997 14:59:29 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Kermit for Windows 3.1 or NT Date: 1 Jun 1997 18:59:29 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 10 Message-ID: <5msgqh$5vu$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu> References: <5msg4d$67c$1@nnrp1.crl.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7112 In article <5msg4d$67c$1@nnrp1.crl.com>, Etop Udoh wrote: : I'm looking for kermit for Windows 3.1: : http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/mskermit.html : or NT...... : http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/k95.html - Frank From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Mon Jun 2 15:31:17 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA18733 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 1997 15:31:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA21058 for kermit.misc@watsun; Mon, 2 Jun 1997 15:31:16 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!europa.clark.net!feed1.news.erols.com!news.ecn.uoknor.edu!munnari.OZ.AU!news.mel.connect.com.au!news.per.connect.com.au!news.wantree.com.au!not-for-mail From: Bruce Cook Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Can I launch netscape browser via kermit connection? Date: 03 Jun 1997 03:25:31 -0800 Organization: The Bicycle Factory Lines: 31 Message-ID: References: <33904E59.BA6@lucent.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: per1-54.wantree.com.au X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 Cache-Post-Path: cletus.kintailrd!unknown@donal.kintailrd Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7113 Hong Hsu writes: > I have a couple of simple question for Kermit 95 v1.1.11. > > I have a PC running NT 4.0 and connected with a 28.8k modem at > home. I like to dial-up to an account at my office. The system of my > office running Solaris 2.5 operating system. > > In order to file tranfer, do I need to install some software on > remote side? Assume Kermit 95 1.1.11 is installed on my PC. > > After the connection, can I launch a netscape browser at home? > It seems Kermit 1.1.11 is more than just a TTY connection. Kermit does not impliment a TCP/IP protocol link however, and therefore you can't use TCP applications on your computer to talk over a kermit link. One thing that would give you browsing, and download facilities, would be to set lynx up on the SUN, with kermit enabled. You could browse the net using the sun Lynx, and download files straight to your kermit on your PC. Otherwise, work out how to set up a PPP link. -- ...BRU Bruce Cook, Synonet Corp. E-Mail: bcook@wantree.com.au Phone: +061 15 999 330 From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Mon Jun 2 16:44:46 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA05938 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 1997 16:44:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA25647 for kermit.misc@watsun; Mon, 2 Jun 1997 16:44:44 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!spool.mu.edu!howland.erols.net!worldnet.att.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!www.nntp.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.com!news.primenet.com!mix.com!sluggy From: billy@mix.com Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc,comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: Transmit drops the last 10-14 characters Date: 2 Jun 1997 13:35:00 -0700 Organization: Billy's Place Lines: 14 Message-ID: <5mvapk$lov@nntp02.primenet.com> References: <338498B1.41C6@raleigh.ibm.com> <5m2brb$5l3$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu> <338FC0D6.69AAE64D@mindspring.com> <5mps6k$do2$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu> X-Posted-By: billy@206.165.5.102 (billy) Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7114 comp.os.linux.misc:196936 Frank da Cruz writes: > #ifdef NETCONN > if (netconn) return (0); /* Network connection, do nothing */ > #endif /* NETCONN */ > sleep(1); /* <--- Add this line */ I don't know if it's possible in Unix/Linux but in the RT-11 (PDP-11) Kermit I used a write with a completion routine for this - the write gets queued then when it's actually done the completion routine (in the os) executes and clears a wait flag after which the device can be closed or the program can proceed elsewhere. Billy Y.. From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Mon Jun 2 19:03:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA02696 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 1997 19:03:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA04387 for kermit.misc@watsun; Mon, 2 Jun 1997 19:03:05 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.eecs.umich.edu!news.radio.cz!europa.clark.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!howland.erols.net!news-peer.gsl.net!portc01.blue.aol.com!audrey02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: newgoddess@aol.com (Newgoddess) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Is Ethernet connection possible w/ver.3.13? Date: 2 Jun 1997 21:30:05 GMT Lines: 4 Message-ID: <19970602213000.RAA27439@ladder02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder02.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7115 We are currently using Kermit 3.13 as a direct connect to our SCO box. We want an NT 4.0 network but still need to access the SCO box. Can 3.13 be reconfigured to work over an ethernet connection and if so how? Thank you. I don't believe there is a network card in the SCO box. From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Mon Jun 2 19:17:10 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA04797 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 1997 19:17:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA05378 for kermit.misc@watsun; Mon, 2 Jun 1997 19:17:10 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Is Ethernet connection possible w/ver.3.13? Date: 2 Jun 1997 23:17:08 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 15 Message-ID: <5mvk9k$580$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu> References: <19970602213000.RAA27439@ladder02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7116 In article <19970602213000.RAA27439@ladder02.news.aol.com>, Newgoddess wrote: : We are currently using Kermit 3.13 as a direct connect to our SCO box. We : want an NT 4.0 network but still need to access the SCO box. Can 3.13 be : reconfigured to work over an ethernet connection and if so how? Thank : you. I don't believe there is a network card in the SCO box. : For Windows 95 or NT, you need to use Kermit 95: http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/k95.html It is a fully native 32-bit Windows 95 and NT application that uses 32-bit Winsock to make TCP/IP (Telnet and Rlogin) connections. - Frank From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Tue Jun 3 04:21:10 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA29957 for ; Tue, 3 Jun 1997 04:21:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA06498 for kermit.misc@watsun; Tue, 3 Jun 1997 04:21:08 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.eecs.umich.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!EU.net!Norway.EU.net!uninett.no!news.uni-c.dk!news.uni-c.dk!not-for-mail From: "Leif Arildsen" Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: K95 and APC Date: 3 Jun 1997 08:07:59 GMT Organization: News Server at UNI-C, Danish Computing Centre for Research and Education. Lines: 9 Message-ID: <01bc6ff5$3c62a660$5a4958c1@ailarhj> NNTP-Posting-Host: bugatti.alco.dk X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1161 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7117 Does anyone know, if there is a way to stop k95's flipping from terminal screen to command screen and back, when executing apc calls. -- Leif Arildsen (lar@activ.dk) Activ Informatik a/s Voldbjergvej 12 DK-8240 Risskov DENMARK From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Tue Jun 3 09:39:05 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA03586 for ; Tue, 3 Jun 1997 09:39:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA24136 for kermit.misc@watsun; Tue, 3 Jun 1997 09:39:04 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: K95 and APC Date: 3 Jun 1997 13:39:02 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 16 Message-ID: <5n16pm$ni6$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu> References: <01bc6ff5$3c62a660$5a4958c1@ailarhj> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7118 In article <01bc6ff5$3c62a660$5a4958c1@ailarhj>, Leif Arildsen wrote: : Does anyone know, if there is a way to stop k95's flipping : from terminal screen to command screen and back, when : executing apc calls. : There is no way in the current version, because the Command Screen and the Terminal screen share the same window. An APC enters the command parser, and thus the Command screen. In the forthcoming GUI release these will be two separate windows with no flipping. If you are using APC only for file transfer, there are other methods available that do not flip. - Frank From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Wed Jun 4 15:05:44 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA14789 for ; Wed, 4 Jun 1997 15:05:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA00868 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 4 Jun 1997 15:05:43 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!newsfeed.direct.ca!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!csn!nntp-xfer-1.csn.net!carbon!hermes.cair.du.edu!odin.cair.du.edu!blanche From: blanche@odin.cair.du.edu (Blanche Cohen) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: modem speed Date: 4 Jun 1997 17:32:39 GMT Organization: University of Denver Lines: 22 Message-ID: <5n48rn$ph3@hermes.cair.du.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: odin.cair.du.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7119 My "regular" ISP (which I think I will drop, real soon) hasn't forwarded mail outside its own box for almost a week. So I post it here...if a duplicate shows up later, sorry. Version C-Kermit 6.0.192, for Solaris 2.5.1 x86 - pretty slick! Considering that making PPP work on this thing is a nightmare, Kermit has definitely become a life saver! However, a modem speed problem. I have a Hayes accura 288B, which I assume translates to "hayes-high-speed" and then set the speed to 115200, since the default is 9600. Everything on my side looks good. But when I connect and attempt to download a file, the connection speed is 9600! Is this a problem on the other side (which is only running 5.0) or something I can change? Makes downloading 3 MB files rather time consuming, even when I change the packet length to 1024 instead of the default 90. thanks -- If you send me unsolicited commercial electronic mail, I will charge you $500 per item for proof-reading and other handling charges. From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Wed Jun 4 20:20:13 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA03273 for ; Wed, 4 Jun 1997 20:20:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA22663 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 4 Jun 1997 20:20:12 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!news-xfer.cybernet.dk!news.onramp.net!news-in.iadfw.net!news.gymnet.com!LSNT1!lsbsdi6.lightspeed.net!news-ana-7.sprintlink.net!news-ana-24.sprintlink.net!news-west.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!www.nntp.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.com!news.primenet.com!mix.com!sluggy From: billy@mix.com Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc,comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: Transmit drops the last 10-14 characters Date: 2 Jun 1997 13:35:00 -0700 Organization: Billy's Place Lines: 15 Message-ID: <092126D4B1E7B83D.62046B77ECBFA4AC.4D300C0DF78044F6@library-proxy.airnews.net> X-Orig-Message-ID: <5mvapk$lov@nntp02.primenet.com> References: <338498B1.41C6@raleigh.ibm.com> <5m2brb$5l3$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu> <338FC0D6.69AAE64D@mindspring.com> <5mps6k$do2$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu> NNTP-Proxy-Relay: library.airnews.net NNTP-Posting-Host: biceps.gymnet.com X-Posted-By: billy@206.165.5.102 (billy) Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7120 comp.os.linux.misc:197833 Frank da Cruz writes: > #ifdef NETCONN > if (netconn) return (0); /* Network connection, do nothing */ > #endif /* NETCONN */ > sleep(1); /* <--- Add this line */ I don't know if it's possible in Unix/Linux but in the RT-11 (PDP-11) Kermit I used a write with a completion routine for this - the write gets queued then when it's actually done the completion routine (in the os) executes and clears a wait flag after which the device can be closed or the program can proceed elsewhere. Billy Y.. From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Wed Jun 4 23:13:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA28433 for ; Wed, 4 Jun 1997 23:13:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA03760 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 4 Jun 1997 23:13:07 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!psinntp!news.idt.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.dfw.net!news.onramp.net!news-in.iadfw.net!news.gymnet.com!LSNT1!lsbsdi6.lightspeed.net!news-ana-7.sprintlink.net!news-ana-24.sprintlink.net!news-west.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!howland.erols.net!psinntp!news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc,comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: Transmit drops the last 10-14 characters Date: 31 May 1997 18:55:16 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 68 Message-ID: <29987D592985B0D4.869F72B0460517F0.9AFA0E544A526AF7@library-proxy.airnews.net> X-Orig-Message-ID: <5mps6k$do2$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu> References: <338498B1.41C6@raleigh.ibm.com> <5m2brb$5l3$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu> <338FC0D6.69AAE64D@mindspring.com> NNTP-Proxy-Relay: library.airnews.net NNTP-Posting-Host: biceps.gymnet.com Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7121 comp.os.linux.misc:197901 In article <338FC0D6.69AAE64D@mindspring.com>, David Greeson wrote: (Discussing a problem using Linux C-Kermit to transmit bytes to a microprocessor, but the last few bytes are always lost...) : .... : > : set file type binary (so it will transfer a byte at a time) : > : set flow xon : > : : > : Then I set the uP to receive the ascii file and type crtl-\c : > : C-kermit> transmit foo.bar : > : : > : The uP receives the whole file except for the last 10-14 : > : characters. The com port has a 16550A uart. : : The uP is using XON/XOFF for flow control and has a 16 byte : rcv/xmit fifos. Using port diags on the uP, I do not see : the last 13 bytes of the file. Also the port has not : been overrun'd. I'm downloading s-records and each line : has a checksum which is verified. : ... : After the transmit finished, I typed "c" to connect and I : could type one character and see that the uP port received : the character. Also, if I set the uart type on the PC to : 16450 (setserial /dev/cua1 16450), only the last byte is : missing. : This reinforces my theory about a device driver bug; the last UART buffer's worth is not being flushed out when the device is closed. : I'm not sure what else to try or how to verify if its a kernel : problem. : Get the Kermit source code: ftp://kermit.columbia.edu/kermit/archives/cku192.tar.gz uncompress, untar. Edit the file ckutio.c. Find the ttres() routine (the one that restores the modes and settings of the tty device prior to closing it). A few lines from the top of this routine: #ifdef NETCONN if (netconn) return (0); /* Network connection, do nothing */ #endif /* NETCONN */ sleep(1); /* <--- Add this line */ Save the file, then "make linux". Try your application again. Does it work? If so, this means means that tcsetattr() destroys any pending output, which I would call a bug. If this change did not fix your application, then look for the ttclos() routine in the same source file (ckutio.c). A few lines from the top of ttclos(): if (ttfdflg) /* If we inherited ttyfd from */ return(0); /* another process, don't close it. */ sleep(1); /* <--- Add this line */ Save the file, "make linux" again, repeat the experiment. If this change fixes the problem, it means that close() does not wait for output to drain, which I also would consider a bug. Please let me know what you find. - Frank From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Thu Jun 5 00:48:10 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA13316 for ; Thu, 5 Jun 1997 00:48:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA08243 for kermit.misc@watsun; Thu, 5 Jun 1997 00:48:06 -0400 (EDT) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.eecs.umich.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in3.uu.net!132.158.82.102!hearye.mlb.semi.harris.com!usenet.ufl.edu!draco.nova.edu!kwong From: kwong@ncs.nova.edu (James Kwong) Subject: Upload file attributes problem (bug)??? Message-ID: Sender: news@draco.nova.edu (Usenet Administrator) Organization: Nova Southeastern University Date: Sun, 1 Jun 1997 22:02:07 GMT Lines: 2123 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7122 HELP! Problem: -------- Using Kermit Protocol in Hyperterminal (v1.1 or v3.0, NT4.0 WkSt SvcPk3) to upload a PC file created on 6/1/2038 to a UNIX machine (Solaris 2.4, Ckermit v6.0) will create a file dated 2/1/1970. (To duplicate the problem, simply use the 'date' command to set your PC date, create a file and then upload it.) However, using Kermit Protocol in MS-DOS Kermit (v3.14, DOS 6.22) to upload a file created on 6/1/2038 to the same Solaris 2.4 machine has no problem. The file will create with the current date, which is 6/1/1997. Questions: ---------- Could this be a problem with the Hyperterminal implementation of the Kermit protocol ? Is there a way to solve this problem on the ckermit 6.0 side ? If so, can anybody help or give me some directions where or which source file to look at? For me, I can simply touch the file after I upload, but that may not be acceptable by some end-users who do not check their PC clock date but blame it on Kermit. At the end of this post, I have included the output of the 'stat' command on the two files and the debug log on the two files when I upload. Hope that helps. -- James. Following is the stat command on the two files: (Pay attention to the second last line, i.e. Modify date) File: "hyp30.txt" Size: 18 Allocated Blocks: 8 Filetype: Regular File Mode: (0600/-rw-------) Uid: (10728/ kwong) Gid: ( 10/ staff) Device: 0,0 Inode: 275 Links: 1 Access: Sun Jun 1 17:07:02 1997(00000.00:03:50) Modify: Sun Feb 1 00:00:07 1970(09982.16:10:45) Change: Sun Jun 1 16:53:13 1997(00000.00:17:39) File: "km314.txt" Size: 17 Allocated Blocks: 8 Filetype: Regular File Mode: (0600/-rw-------) Uid: (10728/ kwong) Gid: ( 10/ staff) Device: 0,0 Inode: 230 Links: 1 Access: Sun Jun 1 16:40:34 1997(00000.00:31:05) Modify: Sun Jun 1 16:40:34 1997(00000.00:31:05) Change: Sun Jun 1 16:40:34 1997(00000.00:31:05) Debug logs for Hyperterminal and MS-DOS Kermit: (If you don't want to look thru the whole log file, search for the word 'Attributes', I think that is where the necessary information begins.) --------------------- HYPERTERMINAL DEBUG LOG START HERE --------------------- Debug Log [C-Kermit 6.0.192, 6 Sep 96] Solaris 2.x ztime: ATTSV[Sun Jun 1 16:53:04 1997 ] Sun Jun 1 16:53:04 1997 prescan arg:i prescan arg:r prescan arg:a sysinit calling priv_ini sysinit jchdlr: SIG_DFL ATTSV conbgt process group=5059 non-POSIX conbgt terminal process group=5059 conbgt process group test=0 SVR4ORPOSIX jc test... sysconf(_SC_JOB_CONTROL)[jc]=1 conbgt jc=1 conbgt jcshell=1 conbgt isatty test=1 conbgt backgrd=0 congm getting modes fxdinit fdispla=2 fxdinit tgetent[vt100]=1 connoi getiobs ok ttgspd ttyfd=-1 ttgspd cfgetospeed 1 ATTSV=15 ttgspd code=15 ttgspd speed=38400 inibufs s=90500 inibufs r=90500 inibufs size 1=181040 inibufs size z=181040 inibufs size 2=181040 inibufs bigsbsiz=90515 inibufs bigrbsiz=90515 prescan arg:p prescan arg:d prescan arg:i prescan arg:r prescan arg:a main argc after prescan()=7 ATTSV conbgt process group=5059 non-POSIX conbgt terminal process group=5059 conbgt process group test=0 SVR4ORPOSIX jc test... sysconf(_SC_JOB_CONTROL)[jc]=1 conbgt jc=1 conbgt jcshell=1 conbgt isatty test=1 conbgt backgrd=0 conint backgrd=0 conint jc=1 conint foreground catching signals, jc=1 conint SIGSTSTP=472048 addmac nam[ibm-linemode]=12 addmac def[set parity mark, set dupl half, set handsh xon, set flow none]=61 addmac macro def[ibm-linemode] addmac table size[ibm-linemode]=0 addmac position[ibm-linemode]=0 addmac nam[fatal]=5 addmac def[if def \%1 echo \%1, if not = \v(local) 0 hangup, stop 1]=56 addmac macro def[fatal] addmac table size[fatal]=1 addmac position[fatal]=0 addmac nam[fast]=4 addmac def[set win 20, set rec pack 4096, set prefix minimal]=49 addmac macro def[fast] addmac table size[fast]=2 addmac position[fast]=0 addmac nam[cautious]=8 addmac def[set win 4, set rec pack 1000, set prefixing cautious]=52 addmac macro def[cautious] addmac table size[cautious]=3 addmac position[cautious]=0 addmac nam[robust]=6 addmac def[set win 1, set rec pack 90, set prefixing all]=45 addmac macro def[robust] addmac table size[robust]=4 addmac position[robust]=4 addmmac line[_assign _for\v(cmdlevel) { _getargs,]=36 addmmac line[define \\\%1 \feval(\%2),:_..top,if \%5 \\\%1 \%3 goto _..bot,]=62 addmmac line[\%6,:_..inc,incr \\\%1 \%4,goto _..top,:_..bot,_putargs},]=57 addmmac line[def break goto _..bot, def continue goto _..inc,]=48 addmmac line[do _for\v(cmdlevel) \%1 \%2 \%3 \%4 { \%5 },_assign _for\v(cmdlevel)]=68 addmmac lines=5 addmmac loop exit=0 addmmac length[_forx]=271 addmmac constructed string[_assign _for\v(cmdlevel) { _getargs,define \\\%1 \feval(\%2),:_..top,if \%5 \\\%1 \%3 goto _..bot,\%6,:_..inc,incr \\\%1 \%4,goto _..top,:_..bot,_putargs},def break goto _..bot, def continue goto _..inc,do _for\v(cmdlevel) \%1 \%2 \%3 \%4 { \%5 },_assign _for\v(cmdlevel)]=271 addmac nam[_forx]=5 addmac def[_assign _for\v(cmdlevel) { _getargs,define \\\%1 \feval(\%2),:_..top,if \%5 \\\%1 \%3 goto _..bot,\%6,:_..inc,incr \\\%1 \%4,goto _..top,:_..bot,_putargs},def break goto _..bot, def continue goto _..inc,do _for\v(cmdlevel) \%1 \%2 \%3 \%4 { \%5 },_assign _for\v(cmdlevel)]=271 addmac macro def[_forx] addmac table size[_forx]=5 addmac position[_forx]=0 addmmac line[_assign _if\v(cmdlevel) {_getargs,\%1,_putargs},]=48 addmmac line[do _if\v(cmdlevel),_assign _if\v(cmdlevel)]=42 addmmac lines=2 addmmac loop exit=0 addmmac length[_xif]=90 addmmac constructed string[_assign _if\v(cmdlevel) {_getargs,\%1,_putargs},do _if\v(cmdlevel),_assign _if\v(cmdlevel)]=90 addmac nam[_xif]=4 addmac def[_assign _if\v(cmdlevel) {_getargs,\%1,_putargs},do _if\v(cmdlevel),_assign _if\v(cmdlevel)]=90 addmac macro def[_xif] addmac table size[_xif]=6 addmac position[_xif]=1 addmmac line[_assign _whi\v(cmdlevel) {_getargs,]=35 addmmac line[:_..inc,\%1,\%2,goto _..inc,:_..bot,_putargs},]=46 addmmac line[_def break goto _..bot, _def continue goto _..inc,]=50 addmmac line[do _whi\v(cmdlevel),_assign _whi\v(cmdlevel)]=44 addmmac lines=4 addmmac loop exit=0 addmmac length[_while]=175 addmmac constructed string[_assign _whi\v(cmdlevel) {_getargs,:_..inc,\%1,\%2,goto _..inc,:_..bot,_putargs},_def break goto _..bot, _def continue goto _..inc,do _whi\v(cmdlevel),_assign _whi\v(cmdlevel)]=175 addmac nam[_while]=6 addmac def[_assign _whi\v(cmdlevel) {_getargs,:_..inc,\%1,\%2,goto _..inc,:_..bot,_putargs},_def break goto _..bot, _def continue goto _..inc,do _whi\v(cmdlevel),_assign _whi\v(cmdlevel)]=175 addmac macro def[_while] addmac table size[_while]=7 addmac position[_while]=1 addmmac line[_assign _sw_\v(cmdlevel) {_getargs,]=35 addmmac line[_forward \%1,\%2,:_..bot,_putargs},_def break goto _..bot,]=58 addmmac line[do _sw_\v(cmdlevel),_assign _sw_\v(cmdlevel)]=44 addmmac lines=3 addmmac loop exit=0 addmmac length[_switx]=137 addmmac constructed string[_assign _sw_\v(cmdlevel) {_getargs,_forward \%1,\%2,:_..bot,_putargs},_def break goto _..bot,do _sw_\v(cmdlevel),_assign _sw_\v(cmdlevel)]=137 addmac nam[_switx]=6 addmac def[_assign _sw_\v(cmdlevel) {_getargs,_forward \%1,\%2,:_..bot,_putargs},_def break goto _..bot,do _sw_\v(cmdlevel),_assign _sw_\v(cmdlevel)]=137 addmac macro def[_switx] addmac table size[_switx]=8 addmac position[_switx]=1 xxstring[10]=2 chknum[10] addmac nam[\&_[0]]=6 addmac def[(null pointer)]=0 xxstring[0]=1 chknum[0] delmac nam[&_[0]] xxstring[0]=1 chknum[0] delmac def[(null pointer)] delmac mlook[&_[0]]=-1 addmac nam[\&_[1]]=6 addmac def[(null pointer)]=0 xxstring[1]=1 chknum[1] delmac nam[&_[1]] xxstring[1]=1 chknum[1] delmac def[(null pointer)] delmac mlook[&_[1]]=-1 addmac nam[\&_[2]]=6 addmac def[(null pointer)]=0 xxstring[2]=1 chknum[2] delmac nam[&_[2]] xxstring[2]=1 chknum[2] delmac def[(null pointer)] delmac mlook[&_[2]]=-1 addmac nam[\&_[3]]=6 addmac def[(null pointer)]=0 xxstring[3]=1 chknum[3] delmac nam[&_[3]] xxstring[3]=1 chknum[3] delmac def[(null pointer)] delmac mlook[&_[3]]=-1 addmac nam[\&_[4]]=6 addmac def[(null pointer)]=0 xxstring[4]=1 chknum[4] delmac nam[&_[4]] xxstring[4]=1 chknum[4] delmac def[(null pointer)] delmac mlook[&_[4]]=-1 addmac nam[\&_[5]]=6 addmac def[(null pointer)]=0 xxstring[5]=1 chknum[5] delmac nam[&_[5]] xxstring[5]=1 chknum[5] delmac def[(null pointer)] delmac mlook[&_[5]]=-1 addmac nam[\&_[6]]=6 addmac def[(null pointer)]=0 xxstring[6]=1 chknum[6] delmac nam[&_[6]] xxstring[6]=1 chknum[6] delmac def[(null pointer)] delmac mlook[&_[6]]=-1 addmac nam[\&_[7]]=6 addmac def[(null pointer)]=0 xxstring[7]=1 chknum[7] delmac nam[&_[7]] xxstring[7]=1 chknum[7] delmac def[(null pointer)] delmac mlook[&_[7]]=-1 addmac nam[\&_[8]]=6 addmac def[(null pointer)]=0 xxstring[8]=1 chknum[8] delmac nam[&_[8]] xxstring[8]=1 chknum[8] delmac def[(null pointer)] delmac mlook[&_[8]]=-1 addmac nam[\&_[9]]=6 addmac def[(null pointer)]=0 xxstring[9]=1 chknum[9] delmac nam[&_[9]] xxstring[9]=1 chknum[9] delmac def[(null pointer)] delmac mlook[&_[9]]=-1 xxstring[7]=1 chknum[7] addmac nam[\&@[0]]=6 addmac def[wermit]=6 xxstring[0]=1 chknum[0] delmac nam[&@[0]] xxstring[0]=1 chknum[0] delmac def[(null pointer)] delmac mlook[&@[0]]=-1 addmac nam[\&@[1]]=6 addmac def[-p]=2 xxstring[1]=1 chknum[1] delmac nam[&@[1]] xxstring[1]=1 chknum[1] delmac def[(null pointer)] delmac mlook[&@[1]]=-1 addmac nam[\&@[2]]=6 addmac def[n]=1 xxstring[2]=1 chknum[2] delmac nam[&@[2]] xxstring[2]=1 chknum[2] delmac def[(null pointer)] delmac mlook[&@[2]]=-1 addmac nam[\&@[3]]=6 addmac def[-d]=2 xxstring[3]=1 chknum[3] delmac nam[&@[3]] xxstring[3]=1 chknum[3] delmac def[(null pointer)] delmac mlook[&@[3]]=-1 addmac nam[\&@[4]]=6 addmac def[-ir]=3 xxstring[4]=1 chknum[4] delmac nam[&@[4]] xxstring[4]=1 chknum[4] delmac def[(null pointer)] delmac mlook[&@[4]]=-1 addmac nam[\&@[5]]=6 addmac def[-a]=2 xxstring[5]=1 chknum[5] delmac nam[&@[5]] xxstring[5]=1 chknum[5] delmac def[(null pointer)] delmac mlook[&@[5]]=-1 addmac nam[\&@[6]]=6 addmac def[hyp30.txt]=9 xxstring[6]=1 chknum[6] delmac nam[&@[6]] xxstring[6]=1 chknum[6] delmac def[(null pointer)] delmac mlook[&@[6]]=-1 ini file is[/home/kwong/.kermrc] main executing init file=-1 main exits init file=-1 main 2 cfilef=0 main argc=7 cmdlin[wermit]=7 cmdlin cfilef=0 xargv[-p]=6 doarg entry[p]=6 doarg arg:p xargv[-d]=4 doarg entry[d]=4 doarg arg:d xargv[-ir]=3 doarg entry[ir]=3 doarg arg:i doarg arg:r xargv[-a]=2 doarg entry[a]=2 doarg arg:a action=118 isdir stat[hyp30.txt]=-1 isdir errno=2 length=9 isdir stat[hyp30.txt]=-1 isdir errno=2 i=0 zchko access ok:[.]=0 ATTSV conbgt process group=5059 non-POSIX conbgt terminal process group=5059 conbgt process group test=0 SVR4ORPOSIX jc test... sysconf(_SC_JOB_CONTROL)[jc]=1 conbgt jc=1 conbgt jcshell=1 conbgt isatty test=1 conbgt backgrd=0 conint backgrd=0 conint jc=1 conint foreground catching signals, jc=1 conint SIGSTSTP=472048 xxproto entry justone=0 ttopen telnetfd=0 ttopen entry modem[/dev/tty]=0 ttyfd=-1 lcl=-1 ttopen MAXNAMLEN defined ttopen BSD4 *NOT* defined ttopen BSD42 *NOT* defined ttopen MYREAD defined ttopen fdflag=0 ttopen ttyfd[/dev/tty]=4 ttname=CTTNAM[/dev/tty]=0 ttopen setting ttyfd = 0 ttopen ioctl TCGETA ttold.c_lflag=35387 ttgspd ttyfd=0 ttgspd cfgetospeed 2 ATTSV=15 ttgspd code=15 ttgspd speed=38400 ttopen ttspeed=38400 ttopen, ttyfd=0 lcl=0 lock file[]=0 proto ttopen local[/dev/tty]=0 ttpkt parity=0 ttpkt xflow=1 ttpkt speed=-1 ttpkt ttpmsk=255 ttpkt netconn=0 tthflow ATTSV RTS/CTS OFF tthflow ATTSV RTSXOFF OFF=-1 tthflow ATTSV DTR/CD OFF tthflow ATTSV DTRXOFF OFF=-1 connoi resetc fsize=-1 proto calling wart, justone=0 input sstate=118 nakstate=0 sndtyp:^@ tinit bestlen=0 tinit setting justone=0 tinit tcharset=0 tinit fcharset=0 chktimo timo=8 chktimo flag=0 chktimo spmax=90 chktimo urpsiz=90 ttgspd ttyfd=0 ttgspd cfgetospeed 2 ATTSV=15 ttgspd code=15 ttgspd speed=38400 chktimo plen=90 makebuf=1 makebuf bufsiz=90515 makebuf MAXWS=32 mksbuf makebuf return=90515 getsbuf, packet=0 getsbuf, sbufnum=1 tinit getsbuf=0 SEND BUFFERS: buffer inuse address length data type seq flag retries 0 1 131576090515 0 0 0 [(null pointer)] free: 0, winlo: 0 makebuf=1 makebuf bufsiz=90515 makebuf MAXWS=32 mkrbuf makebuf return=90515 input sstate=0 nakstate=1 sndtyp:^@ entering rpack, pktnum=0 getrbuf rbufnum=1 getrbuf wslots=1 getrbuf dum002=4321 getrbuf dum003=1111 getrbuf new rbufnum=0 rpack getrbuf=0 ttinl max=90514 ttinl timo=8 ttinl alarm=0 ttinl start:^A ttinl eol=13 SVORPOSIX myfillbuf=16 myfillbuf read=16 ttinl length=13 ttinl EOP length=13 ttinl i=15 parchk n=15 parchk start=1 ttinl got[- S~% @-#Y1~(C]=15 rpack bctl=1 rpack chklen=1 rpack block check OK=0 gtimer=8 input recv[~% @-#Y1~(]=83 RECEIVE BUFFERS: buffer inuse address length data type seq flag retries 0 1 140628090515 0 S 0 0 [- S~% @-#Y1~(] free: 0, winlo: 0 input rsn=winlo=0 input about to flush ttflui netflui ttflui ttyfd=0 ttflui ATTSV input returning type:S ztime: ATTSV[Sun Jun 1 16:53:12 1997 ] entering spar[~% @-#Y1~(] chktimo timo=5 chktimo flag=0 chktimo spmax=94 chktimo urpsiz=90 ttgspd ttyfd=0 ttgspd cfgetospeed 2 ATTSV=15 ttgspd code=15 ttgspd speed=38400 chktimo plen=94 spar 8bq rq:Y spar 8bq sq:Y spar 8bq ebq:& spar 8bq rqf=1 spar capas=8 spar lscapu=0 spar lscapr=1 spar ebqflg=0 spar swcapr=1 spar swcapu=0 spar lscapu=0 spar y=10 spar lpcapu=0 spar slow-start spsiz=94 spar lp spmax=94 chktimo timo=5 chktimo flag=0 chktimo spmax=94 chktimo urpsiz=90 ttgspd ttyfd=0 ttgspd cfgetospeed 2 ATTSV=15 ttgspd code=15 ttgspd speed=38400 chktimo plen=94 spar window=8 spar no windows=1 spar: data[~% @-#Y1~(]=10 spsiz =94 timint=5 npad =0 padch =0 seol =13 ctlq =35 ebq =38 ebqflg=0 bctr =1 rptq =126 rptflg=1 lscapu=0 atcapu=1 lpcapu=0 swcapu=0 wslotn=1 whatru=0 chktimo timo=15 chktimo flag=0 chktimo spmax=94 chktimo urpsiz=90 ttgspd ttyfd=0 ttgspd cfgetospeed 2 ATTSV=15 ttgspd code=15 ttgspd speed=38400 chktimo plen=94 rpar 8bq sq:Y rpar 8bq ebq:& rpar[z/ @-#Y1~^! z0___F"U1] rpar: data[z/ @-#Y1~^! z0___F"U1]=21 rpsiz =90 rtimo =8 mypadn=0 mypadc=0 eol =13 ctlq =35 sq =89 ebq =38 ebqflg=0 bctr =1 rptq =126 rptflg=1 capas =9 bits =94 lscapu=0 atcapu=1 lpcapu=0 swcapu=0 wslotr=1 rpsiz(extended)=90 ack1[z/ @-#Y1~^! z0___F"U1] ackns[z/ @-#Y1~^! z0___F"U1]=0 ackns k=0 freesbuf=0 getsbuf, packet=0 getsbuf, sbufnum=1 spack n=0 spack data[]=1315767 spack len=21 mydata=1315763 sseqtbl[n]=0 gtimer=8 ttol n=27 ttol s[8 Yz/ @-#Y1~^! z0___F"U1G ttol try=1 ttol ok=27 spack ttol returns=27 SEND BUFFERS: buffer inuse address length data type seq flag retries 0 1 131576090515 27 Y 0 0 [8 Yz/ @-#Y1~^! z0___F"U1G free: 0, winlo: 0 spack about to call screen with mydata=[8 Yz/ @-#Y1~^! z0___F"U1G ackns winlo=0 ackns n=0 freerbuf, slot=0 freerbuf, packet=0 freerbuf, new rbufnum=1 freesbuf=0 resetc fsize=-1 input sstate=0 nakstate=1 sndtyp:Y entering rpack, pktnum=0 getrbuf rbufnum=1 getrbuf wslots=1 getrbuf dum002=4321 getrbuf dum003=1111 getrbuf new rbufnum=0 rpack getrbuf=0 ttinl max=90514 ttinl timo=8 ttinl alarm=0 ttinl start:^A ttinl eol=13 SVORPOSIX myfillbuf=11 myfillbuf read=11 ttinl length=8 ttinl EOP length=8 ttinl i=10 ttinl got[(!Ftest2#]=10 rpack bctl=1 rpack chklen=1 rpack block check OK=1 gtimer=0 input recv[test2]=70 RECEIVE BUFFERS: buffer inuse address length data type seq flag retries 0 1 140628090515 0 F 1 0 [(!Ftest2] free: 0, winlo: 1 input rsn=winlo=1 input about to flush ttflui netflui ttflui ttyfd=0 ttflui ATTSV input returning type:F rcvfil[test2] rcvfil cmarg2[hyp30.txt] rcvfil substituting cmarg2[hyp30.txt] zstrip before[hyp30.txt] zstrip after tilde-stripping[hyp30.txt] zstrip after[hyp30.txt] rcvfil zstrip[hyp30.txt] zrtol original name=1225056 zrtol new name[hyp30.txt] rcvfil as[hyp30.txt] isdir stat[hyp30.txt]=-1 isdir errno=2 rcvfil dirflg=0 zchki stat fails[hyp30.txt]=2 rcvfil ofn1x=0 rcvfil ofn1[hyp30.txt] rcvfil ofn2[(NULL)] rcvfil: n[hyp30.txt] gtimer=0 isabsolute[hyp30.txt]=9 isabsolute returns[]=0 zgtdir CWDBL=1024 getpkt fmask=255 getpkt new rt=47 getpkt eof/eot[/tmp/test/hyp30.txt]=19 encstr fits OK, size=19 ack1[/tmp/test/hyp30.txt] ackns[/tmp/test/hyp30.txt]=1 ackns k=0 freesbuf=1 sseqtbl[n]=-1 getsbuf, packet=1 getsbuf, sbufnum=1 spack n=1 spack data[/tmp/test/hyp30.txt]=1315767 spack len=19 mydata=1315763 sseqtbl[n]=0 gtimer=0 ttol n=25 ttol s[6!Y/tmp/test/hyp30.txt2 ttol try=1 ttol ok=25 spack ttol returns=25 SEND BUFFERS: buffer inuse address length data type seq flag retries 0 1 131576090515 25 Y 1 0 [6!Y/tmp/test/hyp30.txt2 free: 0, winlo: 1 spack about to call screen with mydata=[6!Y/tmp/test/hyp30.txt2 ackns winlo=1 ackns n=1 freerbuf, slot=0 freerbuf, packet=1 freerbuf, new rbufnum=1 freesbuf=1 window=1 makebuf=1 makebuf bufsiz=90515 makebuf MAXWS=32 mksbuf makebuf return=90515 makebuf=1 makebuf bufsiz=90515 makebuf MAXWS=32 mkrbuf makebuf return=90515 SEND BUFFERS: buffer inuse address length data type seq flag retries 0 0 131576090515 0 -1 0 [6!Y/tmp/test/hyp30.txt2 free: 1, winlo: 2 RECEIVE BUFFERS: buffer inuse address length data type seq flag retries 0 0 140628090515 0 -1 0 [] free: 1, winlo: 2 input sstate=0 nakstate=1 sndtyp:Y entering rpack, pktnum=0 getrbuf rbufnum=1 getrbuf wslots=1 getrbuf dum002=4321 getrbuf dum003=1111 getrbuf new rbufnum=0 rpack getrbuf=0 ttinl max=90514 ttinl timo=5 ttinl alarm=0 ttinl start:^A ttinl eol=13 SVORPOSIX myfillbuf=36 myfillbuf read=36 ttinl length=33 ttinl EOP length=33 ttinl i=35 ttinl got[A"A!!01"18#119700201 00:00:07."U83]=35 rpack bctl=1 rpack chklen=1 rpack block check OK=2 gtimer=0 input recv[!!01"18#119700201 00:00:07."U8]=65 RECEIVE BUFFERS: buffer inuse address length data type seq flag retries 0 1 140628090515 0 A 2 0 [A"A!!01"18#119700201 00:00:07."U8] free: 0, winlo: 2 input rsn=winlo=2 input about to flush ttflui netflui ttflui ttyfd=0 ttflui ATTSV input returning type:A gattr length[18]=18 gattr fsize[18] gattr return[]=0 ack1[] ackns[]=2 ackns k=0 freesbuf=2 sseqtbl[n]=-1 getsbuf, packet=2 getsbuf, sbufnum=1 spack n=2 spack data[/tmp/test/hyp30.txt2 spack len=0 mydata=1315763 sseqtbl[n]=0 gtimer=0 ttol n=6 ttol s[#"Y@ ttol try=1 ttol ok=6 spack ttol returns=6 SEND BUFFERS: buffer inuse address length data type seq flag retries 0 1 131576090515 6 Y 2 0 [#"Y@ free: 0, winlo: 2 spack about to call screen with mydata=[#"Y@ ackns winlo=2 ackns n=2 freerbuf, slot=0 freerbuf, packet=2 freerbuf, new rbufnum=1 freesbuf=2 input sstate=0 nakstate=1 sndtyp:Y entering rpack, pktnum=0 getrbuf rbufnum=1 getrbuf wslots=1 getrbuf dum002=4321 getrbuf dum003=1111 getrbuf new rbufnum=0 rpack getrbuf=0 ttinl max=90514 ttinl timo=5 ttinl alarm=0 ttinl start:^A ttinl eol=13 SVORPOSIX myfillbuf=26 myfillbuf read=26 ttinl length=23 ttinl EOP length=23 ttinl i=25 ttinl got[7#D"date 6/1/2038" #M#JO]=25 rpack bctl=1 rpack chklen=1 rpack block check OK=3 gtimer=1 input recv["date 6/1/2038" #M#J]=68 RECEIVE BUFFERS: buffer inuse address length data type seq flag retries 0 1 140628090515 0 D 3 0 [7#D"date 6/1/2038" #M#J] free: 0, winlo: 3 input rsn=winlo=3 input about to flush ttflui netflui ttflui ttyfd=0 ttflui ATTSV input returning type:D opena f[hyp30.txt] opena discard=0 Attributes for incoming file [hyp30.txt] length in K=0 file type[]=0 creation date[19700201 00:00:07]=17 creator[]=0 account[]=0 area[]=0 password[]=0 blksize=-1 access[]=0 encoding[]=0 disposition[]=0 lprotection[]=0 gprotection[]=0 systemid[U8]=2 recfm[]=0 sysparam[]=0 length=18 reply[] opena xflg=0 opena remfile=0 opena remappd=0 opena disp=0 opena dispos=0 opena [file]=mode: [hyp30.txt]=0 openo: name[hyp30.txt] zopeno[hyp30.txt]=3 zopeno fcb disp=0 zopeno fcb type=1 zopeno fcb char=0 zopeno[hyp30.txt]=3 zopeno fopen arg[w] zopeno ok openo ok, name[hyp30.txt] zgtdir CWDBL=1024 ackns[]=3 ackns k=0 freesbuf=3 sseqtbl[n]=-1 getsbuf, packet=3 getsbuf, sbufnum=1 spack n=3 spack data[@ spack len=0 mydata=1315763 sseqtbl[n]=0 gtimer=1 ttol n=6 ttol s[##YA ttol try=1 ttol ok=6 spack ttol returns=6 SEND BUFFERS: buffer inuse address length data type seq flag retries 0 1 131576090515 6 Y 3 0 [##YA free: 0, winlo: 3 spack about to call screen with mydata=[##YA ackns winlo=3 ackns n=3 freerbuf, slot=0 freerbuf, packet=3 freerbuf, new rbufnum=1 freesbuf=3 input sstate=0 nakstate=1 sndtyp:Y entering rpack, pktnum=0 getrbuf rbufnum=1 getrbuf wslots=1 getrbuf dum002=4321 getrbuf dum003=1111 getrbuf new rbufnum=0 rpack getrbuf=0 ttinl max=90514 ttinl timo=5 ttinl alarm=0 ttinl start:^A ttinl eol=13 SVORPOSIX myfillbuf=6 myfillbuf read=6 ttinl length=3 ttinl EOP length=3 ttinl i=5 ttinl got[#$ZC]=5 rpack bctl=1 rpack chklen=1 rpack block check OK=4 gtimer=1 input recv[]=90 RECEIVE BUFFERS: buffer inuse address length data type seq flag retries 0 1 140628090515 0 Z 4 0 [#$Z] free: 0, winlo: 4 input rsn=winlo=4 input about to flush ttflui netflui ttflui ttyfd=0 ttflui ATTSV input returning type:Z reof fncact[hyp30.txt]=2 reof discard=0 reof cxseen=0 reof czseen=0 reof rdatap[] reof success=0 clsof disp=0 zoutdump chars=18 zoutdump write ok=18 zclose success=1 Closed zstime[hyp30.txt] zstime[19700201 00:00:07]=17 zstrdt[19700201 00:00:07]=17 zstime date check 1[19700201 00:00:07]=17 zstime date check 2[19700201 00:00:07]=17 zstime date check 3[19700201 00:00:07]=17 zstime so far so good zstime year[1970]=1970 zstime: tm=2696407 zstime: A-pkt date ok [19700201 00:00:07]=17 zstime: sb.st_atime=865198393 zstime 0: modtime set for file[hyp30.txt] reof returns=1 ackns[]=4 ackns k=0 freesbuf=4 sseqtbl[n]=-1 getsbuf, packet=4 getsbuf, sbufnum=1 spack n=4 spack data[A spack len=0 mydata=1315763 sseqtbl[n]=0 gtimer=1 ttol n=6 ttol s[#$YB ttol try=1 ttol ok=6 spack ttol returns=6 SEND BUFFERS: buffer inuse address length data type seq flag retries 0 1 131576090515 6 Y 4 0 [#$YB free: 0, winlo: 4 spack about to call screen with mydata=[#$YB ackns winlo=4 ackns n=4 freerbuf, slot=0 freerbuf, packet=4 freerbuf, new rbufnum=1 freesbuf=4 input sstate=0 nakstate=1 sndtyp:Y entering rpack, pktnum=0 getrbuf rbufnum=1 getrbuf wslots=1 getrbuf dum002=4321 getrbuf dum003=1111 getrbuf new rbufnum=0 rpack getrbuf=0 ttinl max=90514 ttinl timo=5 ttinl alarm=0 ttinl start:^A ttinl eol=13 SVORPOSIX myfillbuf=6 myfillbuf read=6 ttinl length=3 ttinl EOP length=3 ttinl i=5 ttinl got[#%B,]=5 rpack bctl=1 rpack chklen=1 rpack block check OK=5 gtimer=1 input recv[]=66 RECEIVE BUFFERS: buffer inuse address length data type seq flag retries 0 1 140628090515 0 B 5 0 [#%B] free: 0, winlo: 5 RTT RECV=0 RTT stddev2=8000 RTT delay =500 RTT rcvtimo=30 input rsn=winlo=5 input about to flush ttflui netflui ttflui ttyfd=0 ttflui ATTSV input returning type:B ackns[]=5 ackns k=0 freesbuf=5 sseqtbl[n]=-1 getsbuf, packet=5 getsbuf, sbufnum=1 spack n=5 spack data[B spack len=0 mydata=1315763 sseqtbl[n]=0 gtimer=1 ttol n=6 ttol s[#%YC ttol try=1 ttol ok=6 spack ttol returns=6 SEND BUFFERS: buffer inuse address length data type seq flag retries 0 1 131576090515 6 Y 5 0 [#%YC free: 0, winlo: 5 spack about to call screen with mydata=[#%YC ackns winlo=5 ackns n=5 freerbuf, slot=0 freerbuf, packet=5 freerbuf, new rbufnum=1 freesbuf=5 gtimer=1 ztime: ATTSV[Sun Jun 1 16:53:13 1997 ] msleep SELECT 1=500 msleep SELECT 2=500 msleep SVR4 select=0 ttres tty modes restore=0 doexit exitstat=0 doexit what=0 ttclos ttyfd=0 ttclos done conres cgmf=1 conres isatty ok conres restoring ioctl C-Kermit EXIT status=0 --------------------- HYPERTERMINAL DEBUG LOG END HERE --------------------- --------------------- MSDOS KERMIT 3.14 DEBUG LOG START HERE --------------- Debug Log [C-Kermit 6.0.192, 6 Sep 96] Solaris 2.x ztime: ATTSV[Sun Jun 1 16:40:28 1997 ] Sun Jun 1 16:40:28 1997 prescan arg:i prescan arg:r prescan arg:a sysinit calling priv_ini sysinit jchdlr: SIG_DFL ATTSV conbgt process group=4749 non-POSIX conbgt terminal process group=4749 conbgt process group test=0 SVR4ORPOSIX jc test... sysconf(_SC_JOB_CONTROL)[jc]=1 conbgt jc=1 conbgt jcshell=1 conbgt isatty test=1 conbgt backgrd=0 congm getting modes fxdinit fdispla=2 fxdinit tgetent[vt100]=1 connoi getiobs ok ttgspd ttyfd=-1 ttgspd cfgetospeed 1 ATTSV=15 ttgspd code=15 ttgspd speed=38400 inibufs s=90500 inibufs r=90500 inibufs size 1=181040 inibufs size z=181040 inibufs size 2=181040 inibufs bigsbsiz=90515 inibufs bigrbsiz=90515 prescan arg:p prescan arg:d prescan arg:i prescan arg:r prescan arg:a main argc after prescan()=7 ATTSV conbgt process group=4749 non-POSIX conbgt terminal process group=4749 conbgt process group test=0 SVR4ORPOSIX jc test... sysconf(_SC_JOB_CONTROL)[jc]=1 conbgt jc=1 conbgt jcshell=1 conbgt isatty test=1 conbgt backgrd=0 conint backgrd=0 conint jc=1 conint foreground catching signals, jc=1 conint SIGSTSTP=472048 addmac nam[ibm-linemode]=12 addmac def[set parity mark, set dupl half, set handsh xon, set flow none]=61 addmac macro def[ibm-linemode] addmac table size[ibm-linemode]=0 addmac position[ibm-linemode]=0 addmac nam[fatal]=5 addmac def[if def \%1 echo \%1, if not = \v(local) 0 hangup, stop 1]=56 addmac macro def[fatal] addmac table size[fatal]=1 addmac position[fatal]=0 addmac nam[fast]=4 addmac def[set win 20, set rec pack 4096, set prefix minimal]=49 addmac macro def[fast] addmac table size[fast]=2 addmac position[fast]=0 addmac nam[cautious]=8 addmac def[set win 4, set rec pack 1000, set prefixing cautious]=52 addmac macro def[cautious] addmac table size[cautious]=3 addmac position[cautious]=0 addmac nam[robust]=6 addmac def[set win 1, set rec pack 90, set prefixing all]=45 addmac macro def[robust] addmac table size[robust]=4 addmac position[robust]=4 addmmac line[_assign _for\v(cmdlevel) { _getargs,]=36 addmmac line[define \\\%1 \feval(\%2),:_..top,if \%5 \\\%1 \%3 goto _..bot,]=62 addmmac line[\%6,:_..inc,incr \\\%1 \%4,goto _..top,:_..bot,_putargs},]=57 addmmac line[def break goto _..bot, def continue goto _..inc,]=48 addmmac line[do _for\v(cmdlevel) \%1 \%2 \%3 \%4 { \%5 },_assign _for\v(cmdlevel)]=68 addmmac lines=5 addmmac loop exit=0 addmmac length[_forx]=271 addmmac constructed string[_assign _for\v(cmdlevel) { _getargs,define \\\%1 \feval(\%2),:_..top,if \%5 \\\%1 \%3 goto _..bot,\%6,:_..inc,incr \\\%1 \%4,goto _..top,:_..bot,_putargs},def break goto _..bot, def continue goto _..inc,do _for\v(cmdlevel) \%1 \%2 \%3 \%4 { \%5 },_assign _for\v(cmdlevel)]=271 addmac nam[_forx]=5 addmac def[_assign _for\v(cmdlevel) { _getargs,define \\\%1 \feval(\%2),:_..top,if \%5 \\\%1 \%3 goto _..bot,\%6,:_..inc,incr \\\%1 \%4,goto _..top,:_..bot,_putargs},def break goto _..bot, def continue goto _..inc,do _for\v(cmdlevel) \%1 \%2 \%3 \%4 { \%5 },_assign _for\v(cmdlevel)]=271 addmac macro def[_forx] addmac table size[_forx]=5 addmac position[_forx]=0 addmmac line[_assign _if\v(cmdlevel) {_getargs,\%1,_putargs},]=48 addmmac line[do _if\v(cmdlevel),_assign _if\v(cmdlevel)]=42 addmmac lines=2 addmmac loop exit=0 addmmac length[_xif]=90 addmmac constructed string[_assign _if\v(cmdlevel) {_getargs,\%1,_putargs},do _if\v(cmdlevel),_assign _if\v(cmdlevel)]=90 addmac nam[_xif]=4 addmac def[_assign _if\v(cmdlevel) {_getargs,\%1,_putargs},do _if\v(cmdlevel),_assign _if\v(cmdlevel)]=90 addmac macro def[_xif] addmac table size[_xif]=6 addmac position[_xif]=1 addmmac line[_assign _whi\v(cmdlevel) {_getargs,]=35 addmmac line[:_..inc,\%1,\%2,goto _..inc,:_..bot,_putargs},]=46 addmmac line[_def break goto _..bot, _def continue goto _..inc,]=50 addmmac line[do _whi\v(cmdlevel),_assign _whi\v(cmdlevel)]=44 addmmac lines=4 addmmac loop exit=0 addmmac length[_while]=175 addmmac constructed string[_assign _whi\v(cmdlevel) {_getargs,:_..inc,\%1,\%2,goto _..inc,:_..bot,_putargs},_def break goto _..bot, _def continue goto _..inc,do _whi\v(cmdlevel),_assign _whi\v(cmdlevel)]=175 addmac nam[_while]=6 addmac def[_assign _whi\v(cmdlevel) {_getargs,:_..inc,\%1,\%2,goto _..inc,:_..bot,_putargs},_def break goto _..bot, _def continue goto _..inc,do _whi\v(cmdlevel),_assign _whi\v(cmdlevel)]=175 addmac macro def[_while] addmac table size[_while]=7 addmac position[_while]=1 addmmac line[_assign _sw_\v(cmdlevel) {_getargs,]=35 addmmac line[_forward \%1,\%2,:_..bot,_putargs},_def break goto _..bot,]=58 addmmac line[do _sw_\v(cmdlevel),_assign _sw_\v(cmdlevel)]=44 addmmac lines=3 addmmac loop exit=0 addmmac length[_switx]=137 addmmac constructed string[_assign _sw_\v(cmdlevel) {_getargs,_forward \%1,\%2,:_..bot,_putargs},_def break goto _..bot,do _sw_\v(cmdlevel),_assign _sw_\v(cmdlevel)]=137 addmac nam[_switx]=6 addmac def[_assign _sw_\v(cmdlevel) {_getargs,_forward \%1,\%2,:_..bot,_putargs},_def break goto _..bot,do _sw_\v(cmdlevel),_assign _sw_\v(cmdlevel)]=137 addmac macro def[_switx] addmac table size[_switx]=8 addmac position[_switx]=1 xxstring[10]=2 chknum[10] addmac nam[\&_[0]]=6 addmac def[(null pointer)]=0 xxstring[0]=1 chknum[0] delmac nam[&_[0]] xxstring[0]=1 chknum[0] delmac def[(null pointer)] delmac mlook[&_[0]]=-1 addmac nam[\&_[1]]=6 addmac def[(null pointer)]=0 xxstring[1]=1 chknum[1] delmac nam[&_[1]] xxstring[1]=1 chknum[1] delmac def[(null pointer)] delmac mlook[&_[1]]=-1 addmac nam[\&_[2]]=6 addmac def[(null pointer)]=0 xxstring[2]=1 chknum[2] delmac nam[&_[2]] xxstring[2]=1 chknum[2] delmac def[(null pointer)] delmac mlook[&_[2]]=-1 addmac nam[\&_[3]]=6 addmac def[(null pointer)]=0 xxstring[3]=1 chknum[3] delmac nam[&_[3]] xxstring[3]=1 chknum[3] delmac def[(null pointer)] delmac mlook[&_[3]]=-1 addmac nam[\&_[4]]=6 addmac def[(null pointer)]=0 xxstring[4]=1 chknum[4] delmac nam[&_[4]] xxstring[4]=1 chknum[4] delmac def[(null pointer)] delmac mlook[&_[4]]=-1 addmac nam[\&_[5]]=6 addmac def[(null pointer)]=0 xxstring[5]=1 chknum[5] delmac nam[&_[5]] xxstring[5]=1 chknum[5] delmac def[(null pointer)] delmac mlook[&_[5]]=-1 addmac nam[\&_[6]]=6 addmac def[(null pointer)]=0 xxstring[6]=1 chknum[6] delmac nam[&_[6]] xxstring[6]=1 chknum[6] delmac def[(null pointer)] delmac mlook[&_[6]]=-1 addmac nam[\&_[7]]=6 addmac def[(null pointer)]=0 xxstring[7]=1 chknum[7] delmac nam[&_[7]] xxstring[7]=1 chknum[7] delmac def[(null pointer)] delmac mlook[&_[7]]=-1 addmac nam[\&_[8]]=6 addmac def[(null pointer)]=0 xxstring[8]=1 chknum[8] delmac nam[&_[8]] xxstring[8]=1 chknum[8] delmac def[(null pointer)] delmac mlook[&_[8]]=-1 addmac nam[\&_[9]]=6 addmac def[(null pointer)]=0 xxstring[9]=1 chknum[9] delmac nam[&_[9]] xxstring[9]=1 chknum[9] delmac def[(null pointer)] delmac mlook[&_[9]]=-1 xxstring[7]=1 chknum[7] addmac nam[\&@[0]]=6 addmac def[wermit]=6 xxstring[0]=1 chknum[0] delmac nam[&@[0]] xxstring[0]=1 chknum[0] delmac def[(null pointer)] delmac mlook[&@[0]]=-1 addmac nam[\&@[1]]=6 addmac def[-p]=2 xxstring[1]=1 chknum[1] delmac nam[&@[1]] xxstring[1]=1 chknum[1] delmac def[(null pointer)] delmac mlook[&@[1]]=-1 addmac nam[\&@[2]]=6 addmac def[n]=1 xxstring[2]=1 chknum[2] delmac nam[&@[2]] xxstring[2]=1 chknum[2] delmac def[(null pointer)] delmac mlook[&@[2]]=-1 addmac nam[\&@[3]]=6 addmac def[-d]=2 xxstring[3]=1 chknum[3] delmac nam[&@[3]] xxstring[3]=1 chknum[3] delmac def[(null pointer)] delmac mlook[&@[3]]=-1 addmac nam[\&@[4]]=6 addmac def[-ir]=3 xxstring[4]=1 chknum[4] delmac nam[&@[4]] xxstring[4]=1 chknum[4] delmac def[(null pointer)] delmac mlook[&@[4]]=-1 addmac nam[\&@[5]]=6 addmac def[-a]=2 xxstring[5]=1 chknum[5] delmac nam[&@[5]] xxstring[5]=1 chknum[5] delmac def[(null pointer)] delmac mlook[&@[5]]=-1 addmac nam[\&@[6]]=6 addmac def[km314.txt]=9 xxstring[6]=1 chknum[6] delmac nam[&@[6]] xxstring[6]=1 chknum[6] delmac def[(null pointer)] delmac mlook[&@[6]]=-1 ini file is[/home/kwong/.kermrc] main executing init file=-1 main exits init file=-1 main 2 cfilef=0 main argc=7 cmdlin[wermit]=7 cmdlin cfilef=0 xargv[-p]=6 doarg entry[p]=6 doarg arg:p xargv[-d]=4 doarg entry[d]=4 doarg arg:d xargv[-ir]=3 doarg entry[ir]=3 doarg arg:i doarg arg:r xargv[-a]=2 doarg entry[a]=2 doarg arg:a action=118 isdir stat[km314.txt]=-1 isdir errno=2 length=9 isdir stat[km314.txt]=-1 isdir errno=2 i=0 zchko access ok:[.]=0 ATTSV conbgt process group=4749 non-POSIX conbgt terminal process group=4749 conbgt process group test=0 SVR4ORPOSIX jc test... sysconf(_SC_JOB_CONTROL)[jc]=1 conbgt jc=1 conbgt jcshell=1 conbgt isatty test=1 conbgt backgrd=0 conint backgrd=0 conint jc=1 conint foreground catching signals, jc=1 conint SIGSTSTP=472048 xxproto entry justone=0 ttopen telnetfd=0 ttopen entry modem[/dev/tty]=0 ttyfd=-1 lcl=-1 ttopen MAXNAMLEN defined ttopen BSD4 *NOT* defined ttopen BSD42 *NOT* defined ttopen MYREAD defined ttopen fdflag=0 ttopen ttyfd[/dev/tty]=4 ttname=CTTNAM[/dev/tty]=0 ttopen setting ttyfd = 0 ttopen ioctl TCGETA ttold.c_lflag=35387 ttgspd ttyfd=0 ttgspd cfgetospeed 2 ATTSV=15 ttgspd code=15 ttgspd speed=38400 ttopen ttspeed=38400 ttopen, ttyfd=0 lcl=0 lock file[]=0 proto ttopen local[/dev/tty]=0 ttpkt parity=0 ttpkt xflow=1 ttpkt speed=-1 ttpkt ttpmsk=255 ttpkt netconn=0 tthflow ATTSV RTS/CTS OFF tthflow ATTSV RTSXOFF OFF=-1 tthflow ATTSV DTR/CD OFF tthflow ATTSV DTRXOFF OFF=-1 connoi resetc fsize=-1 proto calling wart, justone=0 input sstate=118 nakstate=0 sndtyp:^@ tinit bestlen=0 tinit setting justone=0 tinit tcharset=0 tinit fcharset=0 chktimo timo=8 chktimo flag=0 chktimo spmax=90 chktimo urpsiz=90 ttgspd ttyfd=0 ttgspd cfgetospeed 2 ATTSV=15 ttgspd code=15 ttgspd speed=38400 chktimo plen=90 makebuf=1 makebuf bufsiz=90515 makebuf MAXWS=32 mksbuf makebuf return=90515 getsbuf, packet=0 getsbuf, sbufnum=1 tinit getsbuf=0 SEND BUFFERS: buffer inuse address length data type seq flag retries 0 1 131576090515 0 0 0 [(null pointer)] free: 0, winlo: 0 makebuf=1 makebuf bufsiz=90515 makebuf MAXWS=32 mkrbuf makebuf return=90515 input sstate=0 nakstate=1 sndtyp:^@ entering rpack, pktnum=0 getrbuf rbufnum=1 getrbuf wslots=1 getrbuf dum002=4321 getrbuf dum003=1111 getrbuf new rbufnum=0 rpack getrbuf=0 ttinl max=90514 ttinl timo=8 ttinl alarm=0 ttinl start:^A ttinl eol=13 SVORPOSIX myfillbuf=24 myfillbuf read=24 ttinl length=21 ttinl EOP length=21 ttinl i=23 parchk n=23 parchk start=1 ttinl got[5 S~( @-#Y3~^$5% ___DF]=23 rpack bctl=1 rpack chklen=1 rpack block check OK=0 gtimer=6 input recv[~( @-#Y3~^$5% ___D]=83 RECEIVE BUFFERS: buffer inuse address length data type seq flag retries 0 1 140628090515 0 S 0 0 [5 S~( @-#Y3~^$5% ___D] free: 0, winlo: 0 input rsn=winlo=0 input about to flush ttflui netflui ttflui ttyfd=0 ttflui ATTSV input returning type:S ztime: ATTSV[Sun Jun 1 16:40:34 1997 ] entering spar[~( @-#Y3~^$5% ___D] chktimo timo=8 chktimo flag=0 chktimo spmax=94 chktimo urpsiz=90 ttgspd ttyfd=0 ttgspd cfgetospeed 2 ATTSV=15 ttgspd code=15 ttgspd speed=38400 chktimo plen=94 spar 8bq rq:Y spar 8bq sq:Y spar 8bq ebq:& spar 8bq rqf=1 spar capas=62 spar lscapu=0 spar lscapr=1 spar ebqflg=0 spar swcapr=1 spar swcapu=1 spar lscapu=0 spar y=10 spar lpcapu=1 spar lp len=2000 spar slow-start spsiz=244 spar lp spmax=2000 chktimo timo=8 chktimo flag=0 chktimo spmax=2000 chktimo urpsiz=90 ttgspd ttyfd=0 ttgspd cfgetospeed 2 ATTSV=15 ttgspd code=15 ttgspd speed=38400 chktimo plen=2000 spar window=4 spar window after adjustment=4 spar: data[~( @-#Y3~^$5% ___D]=18 spsiz =244 timint=8 npad =0 padch =0 seol =13 ctlq =35 ebq =38 ebqflg=0 bctr =3 rptq =126 rptflg=1 lscapu=0 atcapu=1 lpcapu=1 swcapu=1 wslotn=1 whatru=36 chktimo timo=15 chktimo flag=0 chktimo spmax=2000 chktimo urpsiz=90 ttgspd ttyfd=0 ttgspd cfgetospeed 2 ATTSV=15 ttgspd code=15 ttgspd speed=38400 chktimo plen=2000 rpar 8bq sq:Y rpar 8bq ebq:& rpar[z/ @-#Y3~^! z0___F"U1] rpar: data[z/ @-#Y3~^! z0___F"U1]=21 rpsiz =90 rtimo =8 mypadn=0 mypadc=0 eol =13 ctlq =35 sq =89 ebq =38 ebqflg=0 bctr =3 rptq =126 rptflg=1 capas =9 bits =94 lscapu=0 atcapu=1 lpcapu=1 swcapu=1 wslotr=1 rpsiz(extended)=90 ack1[z/ @-#Y3~^! z0___F"U1] ackns[z/ @-#Y3~^! z0___F"U1]=0 ackns k=0 freesbuf=0 getsbuf, packet=0 getsbuf, sbufnum=1 spack n=0 spack data[]=1315767 spack len=21 mydata=1315763 sseqtbl[n]=0 gtimer=6 ttol n=27 ttol s[8 Yz/ @-#Y3~^! z0___F"U1I ttol try=1 ttol ok=27 spack ttol returns=27 SEND BUFFERS: buffer inuse address length data type seq flag retries 0 1 131576090515 27 Y 0 0 [8 Yz/ @-#Y3~^! z0___F"U1I free: 0, winlo: 0 spack about to call screen with mydata=[8 Yz/ @-#Y3~^! z0___F"U1I ackns winlo=0 ackns n=0 freerbuf, slot=0 freerbuf, packet=0 freerbuf, new rbufnum=1 freesbuf=0 resetc fsize=-1 input sstate=0 nakstate=1 sndtyp:Y entering rpack, pktnum=0 getrbuf rbufnum=1 getrbuf wslots=1 getrbuf dum002=4321 getrbuf dum003=1111 getrbuf new rbufnum=0 rpack getrbuf=0 ttinl max=90514 ttinl timo=8 ttinl alarm=0 ttinl start:^A ttinl eol=13 SVORPOSIX myfillbuf=13 myfillbuf read=13 ttinl length=10 ttinl EOP length=10 ttinl i=12 ttinl got[*!FTEST2)Q-]=12 rpack bctl=3 rpack chklen=3 rpack block check OK=1 gtimer=0 input recv[TEST2]=70 RECEIVE BUFFERS: buffer inuse address length data type seq flag retries 0 1 140628090515 0 F 1 0 [*!FTEST2] free: 0, winlo: 1 input rsn=winlo=1 input about to flush ttflui netflui ttflui ttyfd=0 ttflui ATTSV input returning type:F rcvfil[TEST2] rcvfil cmarg2[km314.txt] rcvfil substituting cmarg2[km314.txt] zstrip before[km314.txt] zstrip after tilde-stripping[km314.txt] zstrip after[km314.txt] rcvfil zstrip[km314.txt] zrtol original name=1225056 zrtol new name[km314.txt] rcvfil as[km314.txt] isdir stat[km314.txt]=-1 isdir errno=2 rcvfil dirflg=0 zchki stat fails[km314.txt]=2 rcvfil ofn1x=0 rcvfil ofn1[km314.txt] rcvfil ofn2[(NULL)] rcvfil: n[km314.txt] gtimer=0 isabsolute[km314.txt]=9 isabsolute returns[]=0 zgtdir CWDBL=1024 getpkt fmask=255 getpkt new rt=47 getpkt eof/eot[/tmp/test/km314.txt]=19 encstr fits OK, size=19 ack1[/tmp/test/km314.txt] ackns[/tmp/test/km314.txt]=1 ackns k=0 freesbuf=1 sseqtbl[n]=-1 getsbuf, packet=1 getsbuf, sbufnum=1 spack n=1 spack data[/tmp/test/km314.txt]=1315767 spack len=19 mydata=1315763 sseqtbl[n]=0 gtimer=0 ttol n=27 ttol s[8!Y/tmp/test/km314.txt&Y' ttol try=1 ttol ok=27 spack ttol returns=27 SEND BUFFERS: buffer inuse address length data type seq flag retries 0 1 131576090515 27 Y 1 0 [8!Y/tmp/test/km314.txt&Y' free: 0, winlo: 1 spack about to call screen with mydata=[8!Y/tmp/test/km314.txt&Y' ackns winlo=1 ackns n=1 freerbuf, slot=0 freerbuf, packet=1 freerbuf, new rbufnum=1 freesbuf=1 window=1 makebuf=1 makebuf bufsiz=90515 makebuf MAXWS=32 mksbuf makebuf return=90515 makebuf=1 makebuf bufsiz=90515 makebuf MAXWS=32 mkrbuf makebuf return=90515 SEND BUFFERS: buffer inuse address length data type seq flag retries 0 0 131576090515 0 -1 0 [8!Y/tmp/test/km314.txt&Y' free: 1, winlo: 2 RECEIVE BUFFERS: buffer inuse address length data type seq flag retries 0 0 140628090515 0 -1 0 [] free: 1, winlo: 2 input sstate=0 nakstate=1 sndtyp:Y entering rpack, pktnum=0 getrbuf rbufnum=1 getrbuf wslots=1 getrbuf dum002=4321 getrbuf dum003=1111 getrbuf new rbufnum=0 rpack getrbuf=0 ttinl max=90514 ttinl timo=8 ttinl alarm=0 ttinl start:^A ttinl eol=13 SVORPOSIX myfillbuf=48 myfillbuf read=48 ttinl length=45 ttinl EOP length=45 ttinl i=47 ttinl got[M"A1"18!!1#120380601 03:31:18."U8"#AMJ*!A@ )EG]=47 rpack bctl=3 rpack chklen=3 rpack block check OK=2 gtimer=0 input recv[1"18!!1#120380601 03:31:18."U8"#AMJ*!A@ ]=65 RECEIVE BUFFERS: buffer inuse address length data type seq flag retries 0 1 140628090515 0 A 2 0 [M"A1"18!!1#120380601 03:31:18."U8"#AMJ*!A@ ] free: 0, winlo: 2 input rsn=winlo=2 input about to flush ttflui netflui ttflui ttyfd=0 ttflui ATTSV input returning type:A gattr length[18]=18 gattr file type[AMJ]=3 gattr binary=1 gattr attribute A = text gattr encoding=1 gattr fsize[18] gattr return[]=0 ack1[] ackns[]=2 ackns k=0 freesbuf=2 sseqtbl[n]=-1 getsbuf, packet=2 getsbuf, sbufnum=1 spack n=2 spack data[/tmp/test/km314.txt&Y' spack len=0 mydata=1315763 sseqtbl[n]=0 gtimer=0 ttol n=8 ttol s[%"Y.5! ttol try=1 ttol ok=8 spack ttol returns=8 SEND BUFFERS: buffer inuse address length data type seq flag retries 0 1 131576090515 8 Y 2 0 [%"Y.5! free: 0, winlo: 2 spack about to call screen with mydata=[%"Y.5! ackns winlo=2 ackns n=2 freerbuf, slot=0 freerbuf, packet=2 freerbuf, new rbufnum=1 freesbuf=2 input sstate=0 nakstate=1 sndtyp:Y entering rpack, pktnum=0 getrbuf rbufnum=1 getrbuf wslots=1 getrbuf dum002=4321 getrbuf dum003=1111 getrbuf new rbufnum=0 rpack getrbuf=0 ttinl max=90514 ttinl timo=8 ttinl alarm=0 ttinl start:^A ttinl eol=13 SVORPOSIX myfillbuf=3 myfillbuf read=3 ttinl length=25 SVORPOSIX myfillbuf=25 myfillbuf read=25 ttinl EOP length=25 ttinl i=27 ttinl got[9#D"date 6/1/2038" #M#J'P;]=27 rpack bctl=3 rpack chklen=3 rpack block check OK=3 gtimer=0 input recv["date 6/1/2038" #M#J]=68 RECEIVE BUFFERS: buffer inuse address length data type seq flag retries 0 1 140628090515 0 D 3 0 [9#D"date 6/1/2038" #M#J] free: 0, winlo: 3 input rsn=winlo=3 input about to flush ttflui netflui ttflui ttyfd=0 ttflui ATTSV input returning type:D opena f[km314.txt] opena discard=0 Attributes for incoming file [km314.txt] length in K=1 file type[AMJ]=3 creation date[20380601 03:31:18]=17 creator[]=0 account[]=0 area[]=0 password[]=0 blksize=-1 access[]=0 encoding[A]=1 disposition[]=0 lprotection[]=0 gprotection[]=0 systemid[U8]=2 recfm[]=0 sysparam[]=0 length=18 reply[] opena xflg=0 opena remfile=0 opena remappd=0 opena disp=0 opena dispos=0 opena [file]=mode: [km314.txt]=0 openo: name[km314.txt] zopeno[km314.txt]=3 zopeno fcb disp=0 zopeno fcb type=0 zopeno fcb char=0 zopeno[km314.txt]=3 zopeno fopen arg[w] zopeno ok openo ok, name[km314.txt] zgtdir CWDBL=1024 opena charset[A]=1 ackns[]=3 ackns k=0 freesbuf=3 sseqtbl[n]=-1 getsbuf, packet=3 getsbuf, sbufnum=1 spack n=3 spack data[.5! spack len=0 mydata=1315763 sseqtbl[n]=0 gtimer=0 ttol n=8 ttol s[%#Y/R9 ttol try=1 ttol ok=8 spack ttol returns=8 SEND BUFFERS: buffer inuse address length data type seq flag retries 0 1 131576090515 8 Y 3 0 [%#Y/R9 free: 0, winlo: 3 spack about to call screen with mydata=[%#Y/R9 ackns winlo=3 ackns n=3 freerbuf, slot=0 freerbuf, packet=3 freerbuf, new rbufnum=1 freesbuf=3 input sstate=0 nakstate=1 sndtyp:Y entering rpack, pktnum=0 getrbuf rbufnum=1 getrbuf wslots=1 getrbuf dum002=4321 getrbuf dum003=1111 getrbuf new rbufnum=0 rpack getrbuf=0 ttinl max=90514 ttinl timo=8 ttinl alarm=0 ttinl start:^A ttinl eol=13 SVORPOSIX myfillbuf=8 myfillbuf read=8 ttinl length=5 ttinl EOP length=5 ttinl i=7 ttinl got[%$Z(,*]=7 rpack bctl=3 rpack chklen=3 rpack block check OK=4 gtimer=0 input recv[]=90 RECEIVE BUFFERS: buffer inuse address length data type seq flag retries 0 1 140628090515 0 Z 4 0 [%$Z] free: 0, winlo: 4 input rsn=winlo=4 input about to flush ttflui netflui ttflui ttyfd=0 ttflui ATTSV input returning type:Z reof fncact[km314.txt]=2 reof discard=0 reof cxseen=0 reof czseen=0 reof rdatap[] reof success=0 clsof disp=0 zoutdump chars=17 zoutdump write ok=17 zclose success=1 Closed zstime[km314.txt] zstime[20380601 03:31:18]=17 zstrdt[20380601 03:31:18]=17 zstime date check 1[20380601 03:31:18]=17 zstime date check 2[20380601 03:31:18]=17 zstime date check 3[20380601 03:31:18]=17 zstime so far so good zstime year[2038]=2038 zstime: zstrdt fails=0 reof returns=1 ackns[]=4 ackns k=0 freesbuf=4 sseqtbl[n]=-1 getsbuf, packet=4 getsbuf, sbufnum=1 spack n=4 spack data[/R9 spack len=0 mydata=1315763 sseqtbl[n]=0 gtimer=0 ttol n=8 ttol s[%$Y+&1 ttol try=1 ttol ok=8 spack ttol returns=8 SEND BUFFERS: buffer inuse address length data type seq flag retries 0 1 131576090515 8 Y 4 0 [%$Y+&1 free: 0, winlo: 4 spack about to call screen with mydata=[%$Y+&1 ackns winlo=4 ackns n=4 freerbuf, slot=0 freerbuf, packet=4 freerbuf, new rbufnum=1 freesbuf=4 input sstate=0 nakstate=1 sndtyp:Y entering rpack, pktnum=0 getrbuf rbufnum=1 getrbuf wslots=1 getrbuf dum002=4321 getrbuf dum003=1111 getrbuf new rbufnum=0 rpack getrbuf=0 ttinl max=90514 ttinl timo=8 ttinl alarm=0 ttinl start:^A ttinl eol=13 SVORPOSIX myfillbuf=8 myfillbuf read=8 ttinl length=5 ttinl EOP length=5 ttinl i=7 ttinl got[%%B 8;]=7 rpack bctl=3 rpack chklen=3 rpack block check OK=5 gtimer=1 input recv[]=66 RECEIVE BUFFERS: buffer inuse address length data type seq flag retries 0 1 140628090515 0 B 5 0 [%%B] free: 0, winlo: 5 RTT RECV=1 RTT stddev2=8000 RTT delay =1000 RTT rcvtimo=48 input rsn=winlo=5 input about to flush ttflui netflui ttflui ttyfd=0 ttflui ATTSV input returning type:B ackns[]=5 ackns k=0 freesbuf=5 sseqtbl[n]=-1 getsbuf, packet=5 getsbuf, sbufnum=1 spack n=5 spack data[+&1 spack len=0 mydata=1315763 sseqtbl[n]=0 gtimer=1 ttol n=8 ttol s[%%Y*A) ttol try=1 ttol ok=8 spack ttol returns=8 SEND BUFFERS: buffer inuse address length data type seq flag retries 0 1 131576090515 8 Y 5 0 [%%Y*A) free: 0, winlo: 5 spack about to call screen with mydata=[%%Y*A) ackns winlo=5 ackns n=5 freerbuf, slot=0 freerbuf, packet=5 freerbuf, new rbufnum=1 freesbuf=5 gtimer=1 ztime: ATTSV[Sun Jun 1 16:40:35 1997 ] msleep SELECT 1=500 msleep SELECT 2=500 msleep SVR4 select=0 ttres tty modes restore=0 doexit exitstat=0 doexit what=0 ttclos ttyfd=0 ttclos done conres cgmf=1 conres isatty ok conres restoring ioctl C-Kermit EXIT status=0 --------------------- MSDOS KERMIT 3.14 DEBUG LOG END HERE --------------- -- +---------------------------------+----------------------------------------+ | Unix System Administrator | James Kwong 954-262-4906 | | Nova Southeastern University | kwong@solar.acast.nova.edu | +---------------------------------+----------------------------------------+ From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Thu Jun 5 11:25:58 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA19280 for ; Thu, 5 Jun 1997 11:25:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA13402 for kermit.misc@watsun; Thu, 5 Jun 1997 11:25:57 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Upload file attributes problem (bug)??? Date: 5 Jun 1997 15:25:52 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 57 Message-ID: <5n6lq0$d2m$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7123 : HELP! : Please don't post 47K debug logs to the newsgroup -- that's what kermit-support@columbia.edu is for. : Problem: : -------- : Using Kermit Protocol in Hyperterminal (v1.1 or v3.0, NT4.0 WkSt SvcPk3) to : upload a PC file created on 6/1/2038 to a UNIX machine (Solaris 2.4, Ckermit : v6.0) will create a file dated 2/1/1970. : (To duplicate the problem, simply use the 'date' command to set your PC : date, create a file and then upload it.) : : However, using Kermit Protocol in MS-DOS Kermit (v3.14, DOS 6.22) to upload : a file created on 6/1/2038 to the same Solaris 2.4 machine has no problem. : The file will create with the current date, which is 6/1/1997. : So then Hyperterminal is busted. Case closed. : Is there a way to solve this problem on the ckermit 6.0 side ? : No. : For me, I can simply touch the file after I upload, but that may not be : acceptable by some end-users who do not check their PC clock date but : blame it on Kermit. : : At the end of this post, I have included the output of the 'stat' command : on the two files and the debug log on the two files when I upload. Hope : that helps. : It helps us diagnose the problem, but not the other readers of this newsgroup. When you upload with Hyperterminal: Attributes for incoming file [hyp30.txt] length in K=0 file type[]=0 creation date[19700201 00:00:07]=17 When you upload with MS-DOS Kermit: Attributes for incoming file [km314.txt] length in K=1 file type[AMJ]=3 creation date[20380601 03:31:18]=17 Hyperterminal tells C-Kermit the file date is 1970. It also gets most of the other attributes wrong. C-Kermit is behaving exactly as it should, and the only way it can. You can work around the problem by telling C-Kermit to "set attributes off" when receiving files from Hyperterminal. Moral: if you want to use Kermit protocol, use real Kermit software, which is written by people who care enough about it to get it right. - Frank From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Thu Jun 5 15:31:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA20083 for ; Thu, 5 Jun 1997 15:31:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA28960 for kermit.misc@watsun; Thu, 5 Jun 1997 15:31:13 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!newsfeed.direct.ca!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!nntp.sprintmail.com!nntp.sprintmail.com!news@sprintmail.com From: as;lkdfj@asoirueswoiur.com;; Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Mailloop Upgrade Release Date: 5 Jun 1997 19:03:15 GMT Organization: Sprint Internet Passport Lines: 63 Message-ID: <5n72hj$v@newsfep3.sprintmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: sdn-ts-001caglenp14.dialsprint.net Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7124 Mailloop v3.0 is an industrial strength bulk mailer. Mailloop v3.0 is a bulk mailing program for the internet. It can take a single message and broadcast it to either a listing of e-mail addresses or to a listing of newsgroups. Creates custom newsgroup lists by filtering NNTP servers. Creates custom e-mail lists by extracting them from newsgroups. Can also extract e-mail addresses or newsgroup names from other protocols. Built-in NNTP, SMTP, POP, FTP, HTTP, EXEC, CGI, WHOIS and FINGER clients. Anti-cancelbot feature. Automatically processes remove requests. Includes extensive on-line help. The most powerful bulk mailer available. Requires Windows 95 or NT 3.51+ and internet access. The "Program" Mailloop is only available in English. For more info goto: http://205.199.4.219 http://205.199.4.219 Using it is easy: 1) Create a message ( http://205.199.4.219/editor.htm ) ...by using the pull down menus or ...by using any editor 2) Create a newsgroups list ( http://205.199.4.219/news3.htm ) ...by filtering an NNTP server or ...by importing from any text file or ...by manually creating with any editor or ...by extracting from any FTP file or ...by extracting from any HTTP file 3) Create an e-mail list ( http://205.199.4.219/em3.htm ) ...by extracting from newsgroups or ...by importing from any text file or ...by manually creating with any editor or ...by extracting from a WHOIS response or ...by extracting from a fingering response or ...by extracting from a UNIX response or ...by extracting from any FTP file or ...by extracting from any HTTP file or 4) Broadcast the message ...to the e-mail list or ( http://205.199.4.219/embc.htm ) ...to the newsgroup list ( http://205.199.4.219/ngbc.htm ) 5) Then process the remove requests ...by using the mailbox processor ( http://205.199.4.219/pop.htm ) 6) If you want you can use the Newsletter Sever ...The Newsletter Sever will allow you to have an topic-specific newsletter that other can subscribe and unsubscribe to. ...Customizing this server response files ( http://205.199.4.219/response.htm ) ...Creating a new newsletter ( http://205.199.4.219/create.htm ) ...Creating and Updating a newsletter the actual newsletter ( http://205.199.4.219/update.htm ) For more info visit http://205.199.4.219 http://205.199.4.219 From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Thu Jun 5 15:35:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA21928 for ; Thu, 5 Jun 1997 15:35:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA29159 for kermit.misc@watsun; Thu, 5 Jun 1997 15:35:06 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.he.net!newsserver.pacific.net.sg!not-for-mail From: hotjava@pacific.net.sg (Petho) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: MS Kermit For DOS Setup for TCP/IP Date: Thu, 05 Jun 1997 05:12:27 GMT Organization: Subscriber, Pacific Internet, Singapore Lines: 99 Message-ID: <339647d5.364150@news.pacific.net.sg> Reply-To: hotjava@pacific.net.sg NNTP-Posting-Host: dyn84ppp110.pacific.net.sg X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.1/32.230 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7125 Hi, I'm currently having trouble trying to connect to a Unix system from MS Kermit under DOS using Novell's IPXODI. Has anyone done this before ? I've tried the example from the setup.doc from Kermit but still could not telnet to the Unix Host. The following is my NET.CFG setting ================================================================ Link Driver 3C5X9 INT 5 PORT 300 FRAME Ethernet_802.3 FRAME Ethernet_II Protocol IPX 8137 Ethernet_II Protocol IP 0800 Ethernet_II Protocol ARP 0806 Ethernet_II Protocol RARP 8035 Ethernet_II Netware DOS Requester PB buffers=6 TRUE COMMIT = ON PREFERRED WORKGROUP = CDUSERS WORKGROUP NET = 0000AAA1:FFFFFFFFFFFF FIRST NETWORK DRIVE = F NETWARE PROTOCOL = PNW,BIND PREFERRED SERVER = ASCOMTECH2 HANDLE NET ERRORS = OFF LOAD LOW CONN = ON LOAD IPXNCP = ON AUTO RECONNECT = ON BIND RECONNECT = ON AUTO RETRY = 20 SHOW DOTS = ON SIGNATURE LEVEL = 0 USE DEFAULTS = OFF VLM = CONN.VLM VLM = IPXNCP.VLM VLM = TRAN.VLM VLM = SECURITY.VLM VLM = NDS.VLM VLM = BIND.VLM VLM = NWP.VLM VLM = FIO.VLM VLM = GENERAL.VLM VLM = REDIR.VLM VLM = PRINT.VLM VLM = NETX.VLM VLM = AUTO.VLM TRANSPORT PROVIDER IPX Protocol KERMIT Bind 3C5X9 Protocol TCPIP PATH LANG_CFG C:\NET\LANG PATH SCRIPT C:\NET\SCRIPT PATH PROFILE C:\NET\PROFILE PATH LWP_CFG C:\NET\HSTACC PATH TCP_CFG C:\NET\TCP ip_address 193.41.140.200 Link Support Buffers 6 1600 MemPool 4096 I was currently using Lan Workplace to connect to the unix. My STARTNET.BAT contains the following : lh lsl.com lh 3c5x9.com lh ipxodi.com rem vlm.exe In the MSCUSTOM.INI, i've also updated the information (e.g. enabling the broadcast address, defining the IP address as 193.41.140.200, etc). But when I enter the kermit command : telnet 193.41.140.106, i always see the error message : Resolving address of host 193.41.140.106 Unable to ARP resolve 193.41.140.106 Unable to contact the host. The Host may be down or a gateway may be needed. I've tried pinging the host and it works. Please Advice. Thanks in advance. Peter. Petho Email:hotjava@pacific.net.sg "Everybody lives and dies but NOT everybody who has died lived" From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Thu Jun 5 16:14:17 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA29777 for ; Thu, 5 Jun 1997 16:14:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA01461 for kermit.misc@watsun; Thu, 5 Jun 1997 16:14:15 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news-in-east.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!207.20.0.4!newsfeed2.aimnet.com!news1.aplatform.com!nntp.mainstreet.net!bug.rahul.net!rahul.net!a2i!dold.a2i!dold From: dold@01.usenet.us.com Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: MS Kermit For DOS Setup for TCP/IP Date: 5 Jun 1997 19:38:04 GMT Organization: a2i network Lines: 36 Message-ID: <5n74is$es5@bug.rahul.net> References: <339647d5.364150@news.pacific.net.sg> Reply-To: dold@network.rahul.net NNTP-Posting-Host: foxtrot.rahul.net NNTP-Posting-User: dold X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] X-Comment: Encoded From: line allows replies that preserve original subject Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7126 Petho (hotjava@pacific.net.sg) wrote: : I'm currently having trouble trying to connect to a Unix system from : MS Kermit under DOS using Novell's IPXODI. : Has anyone done this before ? I've tried the example from the : setup.doc from Kermit but still could not telnet to the Unix Host. I use it every day. MSKermit 3.14 : The following is my NET.CFG setting : ================================================================ : Link Driver 3C5X9 : INT 5 : PORT 300 : FRAME Ethernet_802.3 : FRAME Ethernet_II Mine adds a line Frame Ethernet_SNAP and does not have the line Protocol IPX 8137 Ethernet_II : Protocol IPX 8137 Ethernet_II : Protocol IP 0800 Ethernet_II : Protocol ARP 0806 Ethernet_II : Protocol RARP 8035 Ethernet_II I also do not mention Kermit elsewhere in Net.cfg : TRANSPORT PROVIDER IPX : Protocol KERMIT : Bind 3C5X9 And I specify my TCP address in my kermit.ini, rather than here. : ip_address 193.41.140.200 -- --- Clarence A Dold - dold@network.rahul.net - Pope Valley & Napa CA. From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Fri Jun 6 10:45:30 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA20360 for ; Fri, 6 Jun 1997 10:45:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA25453 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 6 Jun 1997 10:45:25 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!europa.clark.net!disgorge.news.demon.net!demon!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!caliber.demon.co.uk!caliber.demon.co.uk!barry From: Barry Cowles Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Kermit Problems With Serial Port Date: Fri, 6 Jun 1997 12:02:34 +0100 Distribution: world Message-ID: <$myWVCAK5+lzEwYe@caliber.demon.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: caliber.demon.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: caliber.demon.co.uk [158.152.229.105] MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Newsreader: Turnpike Trial Version 3.03a Lines: 10 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7127 Hi Don't know if anyone can help here but, I am connecting to SCO xenix from a Windows 95 box via C-Kermit and mskermit 315. Generally the connection seems O.K. but I am getting a message to the effect that at the 95 end that it is unable to find the hardware and is using the bios instead. Does anybody know what might be causing this. Many thanks. -- Barry Cowles From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Fri Jun 6 10:56:34 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA22041 for ; Fri, 6 Jun 1997 10:56:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA26047 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 6 Jun 1997 10:56:33 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.gsl.net!portc01.blue.aol.com!audrey02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: rjames4706@aol.com (RJames4706) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: 314kermit for windows Date: 6 Jun 1997 11:35:17 GMT Lines: 8 Message-ID: <19970606113501.HAA18508@ladder02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder02.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7128 I have installed Kermit(Windows) to dial into my server at work. Currently I use a DOS version of Kermit which works fine but I need to use the Windows version now. My problem is on the Windows version I connect to the server okay, but when I type a number or letter it does not display until I type the next number or letter when both display. This causes immediate problems once I'm in the program. Any Help would be greatly appreciated. Rob From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Fri Jun 6 11:04:19 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA23898 for ; Fri, 6 Jun 1997 11:04:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA26642 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 6 Jun 1997 11:04:18 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Kermit Problems With Serial Port Date: 6 Jun 1997 15:04:13 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 19 Message-ID: <5n98td$q0e$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu> References: <$myWVCAK5+lzEwYe@caliber.demon.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7129 In article <$myWVCAK5+lzEwYe@caliber.demon.co.uk>, Barry Cowles wrote: : Don't know if anyone can help here but, I am connecting to SCO : xenix from a Windows 95 box via C-Kermit and mskermit 315. : Generally the connection seems O.K. but I am getting a message : to the effect that at the 95 end that it is unable to find the : hardware and is using the bios instead. Does anybody know what : might be causing this. : MS-DOS Kermit is not supported on Windows 95. We have a completely different Kermit program for Windows 95 (and Windows NT, and OS/2) -- Kermit 95: http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/k95.html It works on both serial and Winsock connections (Telnet and Rlogin), and it is better suited for connections to SCO systems since it supports SCOANSI terminal emulation. - Frank From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Fri Jun 6 11:06:28 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA24276 for ; Fri, 6 Jun 1997 11:06:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA26749 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 6 Jun 1997 11:06:27 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: 314kermit for windows Date: 6 Jun 1997 15:06:16 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 22 Message-ID: <5n9918$q3p$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu> References: <19970606113501.HAA18508@ladder02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7130 In article <19970606113501.HAA18508@ladder02.news.aol.com>, RJames4706 wrote: : I have installed Kermit(Windows) to dial into my server at work. : What is the name and version number of the Kermit program? Which version of Windows are you talking about? : Currently I use a DOS version of Kermit which works fine but I need to use : the Windows version now. My problem is on the Windows version I connect : to the server okay, but when I type a number or letter it does not : display until I type the next number or letter when both display. This : causes immediate problems once I'm in the program. Any Help would be : greatly appreciated. : MS-DOS Kermit 3.14 is the Kermit software for Windows 3.x. Kermit 95 is the Kermit software for Windows 95, Windows NT, and OS/2. Make sure you are using the appropriate software and you have read the accompanying documentation: http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/ - Frank From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Fri Jun 6 14:51:41 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA13694 for ; Fri, 6 Jun 1997 14:51:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA10806 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 6 Jun 1997 14:51:40 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.wolsi.com!news.aros.net!news.cs.utah.edu!cc.usu.edu!jrd From: jrd@cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Kermit Problems With Serial Port Message-ID: <1997Jun6.115314.98992@cc.usu.edu> Date: 6 Jun 97 11:53:14 MDT References: <$myWVCAK5+lzEwYe@caliber.demon.co.uk> Distribution: world Organization: Utah State University Lines: 17 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7131 In article <$myWVCAK5+lzEwYe@caliber.demon.co.uk>, Barry Cowles writes: > Hi > Don't know if anyone can help here but, I am connecting to SCO > xenix from a Windows 95 box via C-Kermit and mskermit 315. > Generally the connection seems O.K. but I am getting a message > to the effect that at the 95 end that it is unable to find the > hardware and is using the bios instead. Does anybody know what > might be causing this. > Many thanks. > -- > Barry Cowles -------- Win95 takes over the real serial port hardware and presents fakes to programs in the DOS box. I suspect you do not have the real serial ports configured under Win95, or something else owns the port you want. Joe D. From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Fri Jun 6 14:54:51 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA14119 for ; Fri, 6 Jun 1997 14:54:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA11014 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 6 Jun 1997 14:54:50 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsout1.alt.net!news1.alt.net!news.aros.net!news.cs.utah.edu!cc.usu.edu!jrd From: jrd@cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: MS Kermit For DOS Setup for TCP/IP Message-ID: <1997Jun6.084156.98983@cc.usu.edu> Date: 6 Jun 97 08:41:56 MDT References: <339647d5.364150@news.pacific.net.sg> Organization: Utah State University Lines: 13 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7132 In article <339647d5.364150@news.pacific.net.sg>, hotjava@pacific.net.sg (Petho) writes: > Hi, > I'm currently having trouble trying to connect to a Unix system from > MS Kermit under DOS using Novell's IPXODI. ---------- You are loading Novell's TCP/IP stack, apparently, at the same time as you are trying to use MS-DOS Kermit's TCP/IP stack, and that's fatal. Only one protocol stack of a given kind (say TCP/IP) can run over a given lan adapter. To unload Novell's stack say TCPIP UNLOAD; to load it again say TCPIP. Also, there is no need to have a BIND section if there are no choices of boards to be made (no alternatives). No harm having it though. Joe D. From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Fri Jun 6 19:17:42 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA05883 for ; Fri, 6 Jun 1997 19:17:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA29440 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 6 Jun 1997 19:17:41 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.eecs.umich.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!feed1.news.erols.com!disgorge.news.demon.net!demon!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!defsdoor.demon.co.uk!not-for-mail From: andy@defsdoor.demon.co.uk (Andrew Porter) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Kermit Problems With Serial Port Date: Fri, 06 Jun 1997 22:21:51 GMT Message-ID: <865635464.9157.0.nnrp-3.c2de30ae@news.demon.co.uk> References: <$myWVCAK5+lzEwYe@caliber.demon.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: defsdoor.demon.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: defsdoor.demon.co.uk [194.222.48.174] X-Newsreader: Forte Agent .99b.112 Lines: 30 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7133 On Fri, 6 Jun 1997 12:02:34 +0100, Barry Cowles wrote: >Hi > Don't know if anyone can help here but, I am connecting to SCO > xenix from a Windows 95 box via C-Kermit and mskermit 315. > Generally the connection seems O.K. but I am getting a message > to the effect that at the 95 end that it is unable to find the > hardware and is using the bios instead. Does anybody know what > might be causing this. >Many thanks. >-- >Barry Cowles Windows 95 has 'nicked' the port. If you exit kermit and start it again the port will be yours for the taking. Its a royal pain in the arse, but I get around it by checking the\v(port) variable and if it isn't com? (whatever I chose) then I quit straight out. Its strange, but - for me anyway - Windows 95 takes the port away for every alternate external use of it. Aren't Microsoft great ? Andrew Porter http://www.defsdoor.demon.co.uk From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Sat Jun 7 21:36:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA02280 for ; Sat, 7 Jun 1997 21:36:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA25451 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sat, 7 Jun 1997 21:36:07 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <33946D59.4093@compuserve.com> Date: Tue, 03 Jun 1997 12:15:37 -0700 From: Tak Organization: Pennine Medical Systems X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01E-CIS (Win95; I; 16bit) MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: kermit 3.11 win95 to dos 6.22 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Path: news.columbia.edu!psinntp!howland.erols.net!feeder.chicago.cic.net!compuserve.com!nih2naab.prod2.compuserve.com!ntdwwaaw.compuserve.com Lines: 3 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7136 can anyone help sending files between dos 6.22 and win95 dos thanks Tak From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Sun Jun 8 05:10:32 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA12655 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 1997 05:10:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA19110 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sun, 8 Jun 1997 05:10:31 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news-in-east.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!200.255.253.242!news.embratel.net.br!srv4-poa.nutecnet.com.br!newsadm From: adfey@nutecnet.com.br (aff) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: How setup kemit to printer files in the remote terminal ???? Date: Sat, 07 Jun 1997 12:53:40 GMT Organization: NutecNet Lines: 21 Message-ID: <5nboqg$hfd@srv4-poa.nutecnet.com.br> Reply-To: adfey@nutecnet.com.br NNTP-Posting-Host: 200.248.184.157 X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7138 Hi all In my linux box I setup dumb terminal with kermit 3.15 (dos) and it's working very well (terminal emulation, transfering files, etc...). Now I'm trying printer files in the printer in the dumb terminal side (dos with kermit 3.15). If possible please send me scripts examples for this job or point to me get the correct informations. Any help would be appreciated (Any critique to my article or mail would be appreciated too !!!) "Please don't flame. I'm an poor newbie Pentium 133 Mhz, 16 MB, CD ROM 4X SB16 Linux 2.0.27 Slackware 3.1 (96) Boot Disk hda (w95), hdb1 (dos) and hdb2,3 (LINUX) From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Sun Jun 8 12:40:09 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA05497 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 1997 12:40:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA13181 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sun, 8 Jun 1997 12:40:08 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: kermit 3.11 win95 to dos 6.22 Date: 8 Jun 1997 16:40:07 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 20 Message-ID: <5nen97$crr$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu> References: <33946D59.4093@compuserve.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7139 In article <33946D59.4093@compuserve.com>, Tak wrote: : can anyone help sending files between dos 6.22 and win95 dos : In DOS, use MS-DOS Kermit 3.14: http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/mskermit.html In Windows 95, use Kermit 95: http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/ Read the documentation for each program for instructions. The easiest way to do this is to start the connection from MS-DOS Kermit on the DOS PC. You can make a direct serial connection, a dialup connection, or a TCP/IP Telnet connection. On the Windows 95 PC, use Kermit 95's host mode -- it provides a login screen and a menu allowing file transfer within a restricted set of directories. - Frank From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Sun Jun 8 12:44:23 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA06052 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 1997 12:44:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA13400 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sun, 8 Jun 1997 12:44:22 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: How setup kemit to printer files in the remote terminal ???? Date: 8 Jun 1997 16:44:19 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 25 Message-ID: <5nenh3$d2m$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu> References: <5nboqg$hfd@srv4-poa.nutecnet.com.br> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7140 In article <5nboqg$hfd@srv4-poa.nutecnet.com.br>, aff wrote: : In my linux box I setup dumb terminal with kermit 3.15 (dos) and it's : working very well (terminal emulation, transfering files, etc...). : : Now I'm trying printer files in the printer in the dumb terminal side : (dos with kermit 3.15). : Are you running MS-DOS *on* the Linux PC, or on another PC that is connected to Linux? If you are running MS-DOS Kermit on the Linux PC, then you must be using a DOS emulator under Linux. In that case, whether you can print from Kermit depends on whether the DOS emulator give Kermit access to the Linux printer. : If possible please send me scripts examples for this job or point to : me get the correct informations. : This question is far too general. Exactly what do you want to print? Files on the Linux system? Files on the system you are connecting to with Kermit? To get started, look in MS-DOS Kermit's UTILS subdirectory for a collection of printer-related materials. - Frank From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Mon Jun 9 12:56:22 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA28450 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 1997 12:56:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA21285 for kermit.misc@watsun; Mon, 9 Jun 1997 12:56:21 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeeds.sol.net!newspump.sol.net!posts.execpc.com!usenet From: manning@execpc.com (Steve Manning) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: k95 native windows update? Date: Mon, 09 Jun 1997 16:51:34 GMT Organization: Exec-PC BBS Internet - Milwaukee, WI Lines: 35 Message-ID: <339c3340.5825352@news.execpc.com> References: <5h3rba$dla$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> Reply-To: manning@execpc.com NNTP-Posting-Host: ictitherium.mdm.mke.execpc.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.01/32.397 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7141 fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) wrote: >In article , >Thomas A. Horsley wrote: >: I see no one has asked for a while when the native windows version of k95 >: will show up, so I figured I'd go ahead and take the plunge this time :-). >: >Not to pick nits, but K95 has always been a 100% native 32-bit Windows 95 >and NT application. The fact that it runs in a console window does not mean >it is not native. If it was not a native application, it would not run in >multiple threads, use 32-bit Winsock, understand long filenames, access the >system through 32-bit APIs and drivers, etc. > >So to be precise, we are talking about the conversion of an already fully >native console program to a full-GUI (graphical user interface) application >of the sort that most Windows users expect to see. > >: I dimly recall that March was once mentioned as a possible time frame, >: and since March has just about run out, I thought I'd ask how its going. >: >: So: Hows it going? >To answer your question -- it doesn't look as if it will be ready in March, >or even April. Given the incredible number of roadblocks we run into at >every turn, we have given up on setting tentative release dates. But yes, >we are working on it full time, and the end is in sight. > >- Frank I'll confess to raging curiosity as to how the GUI product is coming along since this was posted in late March. Any *brief* updates you'd care to share with us, Frank? Steve Manning Mega Marts Milwaukee, WI From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Mon Jun 9 13:02:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA29936 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 1997 13:02:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA21610 for kermit.misc@watsun; Mon, 9 Jun 1997 13:02:06 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: k95 native windows update? Date: 9 Jun 1997 17:01:59 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 14 Message-ID: <5nhcu7$l2u$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu> References: <5h3rba$dla$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> <339c3340.5825352@news.execpc.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7142 In article <339c3340.5825352@news.execpc.com>, Steve Manning wrote: :::: [queries on K95 GUI progress...] : : I'll confess to raging curiosity as to how the GUI product is coming : along since this was posted in late March. Any *brief* updates you'd : care to share with us, Frank? : Several major components of the GUI version have recently been completed, and rather than make everybody wait until the rest of the compenents are done, we're going to release One More Console Veresion, most likely this week. Watch this space for the announcement. - Frank From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Wed Jun 11 15:49:22 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA22056 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 1997 15:49:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA02979 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 11 Jun 1997 15:49:20 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news-feed1.tiac.net!posterchild!ciaraldi From: ciaraldi@tiac.net (Michael Ciaraldi) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Problem Building HP-UX 9 C-Kermit Date: 11 Jun 1997 19:34:32 GMT Organization: The Internet Access Company, Inc. Lines: 28 Message-ID: <5nmuk8$r4r@news-central.tiac.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: sunspot.tiac.net Keywords: HP-UX select Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7145 I downloaded the source from Columbia and compiled it with GCC with the command "make hpux90gcc". This compiled and linked without error. However, when I run it does not work correctly. I can start kermit, set the line and speed, then connect. Anything I type on my keyboard does not go out the serial port, but things that come into the serial port from the other system appear on my screen OK. As I mentioned, the old version of Kermit works fine in this situation. Any ideas? I do have one clue: I wrote a program a few weeks ago that used select() and it does not seem to work properly either. In this case the program is waiting on a socket using a select(). If one character gets sent to the socket the select() returns. I then read the character and do the select() again, and it always returns as if there were data in the socket. But when it reads the socket there are no characters available. BTW, I am properly initializing the flags each time I call the select(). I suspect that there is a bug in select() in this version of HP-UX. thanks, Mike Ciaraldi ciaraldi@ciaraldi.com (preferred) or ciaraldi@tiac.net From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Wed Jun 11 17:17:44 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA08946 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 1997 17:17:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA08160 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 11 Jun 1997 17:17:43 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc,comp.sys.hp.hpux Subject: Re: Problem Building HP-UX 9 C-Kermit Date: 11 Jun 1997 21:17:28 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 46 Message-ID: <5nn4l8$7us$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu> References: <5nmuk8$r4r@news-central.tiac.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Keywords: HP-UX select Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7146 comp.sys.hp.hpux:68294 In article <5nmuk8$r4r@news-central.tiac.net>, Michael Ciaraldi wrote: : I downloaded the source from Columbia and compiled it with GCC : with the command "make hpux90gcc". : This compiled and linked without error. : : However, when I run it does not work correctly. : I can start kermit, set the line and speed, then connect. : Anything I type on my keyboard does not go out the serial port, : but things that come into the serial port from the other system : appear on my screen OK. As I mentioned, the old version of : Kermit works fine in this situation. : : Any ideas? : Just a guess: you are trying to run this version of Kermit on HP-UX 10.10 or 10.20. In that case you used the wrong makefile entry -- you must use one of the hpux100* entries. >From ckuker.bwr, item 3.2.4: Beginning in 10.10, libcurses is linked to libxcurses, the new UNIX95 (X/Open) version of curses, which has some serious bugs; some routines, when called, would hang and never return, some would dump core. Evidently libxcurses contains a select() routine, and whenever C-Kermit calls what it thinks is the regular (sockets) select(), it gets the curses one, causing a segmentation fault. There is a patch for this from HP, PHCO_8086, "s700_800 10.10 libcurses patch", "shared lib curses program hangs on 10.10", "10.10 enhanced X/Open curses core dumps due to using wrong select call", 96/08/02 (you can tell if the patch is installed with "what /usr/lib/libxcurses.1"; the unpatched version is 76.20, the patched one is 76.20.1.2. It has been verified that C-Kermit works OK with the patched library, but results are not definite for HP-UX 10.20 or higher. To ensure that C-Kermit works even on non-patched HP-UX 10.10 systems, separate makefile entries are provided for HP-UX 10.00/10.01, 10.10, 10.20, etc, in which the entries for 10.10 and above link with libHcurses, which is "HP curses", the one that was used in 10.00/10.01. (end quote) More info about C-Kermit 6.0 at: http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/ck60.html - Frank From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Wed Jun 11 23:43:44 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA05268 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 1997 23:43:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA00361 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 11 Jun 1997 23:43:43 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news-feed1.tiac.net!posterchild!ciaraldi From: ciaraldi@tiac.net (Michael Ciaraldi) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Resend #2: Problem Building HP-UX 9 C-Kermit Date: 11 Jun 1997 19:51:38 GMT Organization: The Internet Access Company, Inc. Lines: 33 Message-ID: <5nmvka$sc0@news-central.tiac.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: sunspot.tiac.net Keywords: HP-UX select {Sorry, this message was partially truncated the first time I sent it. Here is the complete version.} yOrganization: Ciaraldi Cybernetics Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7148 I am running an HP 9000 PA-RISC workstation under HP-UX 9.07. The kermit that comes with it, C-Kermit 4E(072) works all right, but I wanted to get the newest version. I downloaded the source from Columbia and compiled it with GCC with the command "make hpux90gcc". This compiled and linked without error. However, when I run it does not work correctly. I can start kermit, set the line and speed, then connect. Anything I type on my keyboard does not go out the serial port, but things that come into the serial port from the other system appear on my screen OK. As I mentioned, the old version of Kermit works fine in this situation. Any ideas? I do have one clue: I wrote a program a few weeks ago that used select() and it does not seem to work properly either. In this case the program is waiting on a socket using a select(). If one character gets sent to the socket the select() returns. I then read the character and do the select() again, and it always returns as if there were data in the socket. But when it reads the socket there are no characters available. BTW, I am properly initializing the flags each time I call the select(). I suspect that there is a bug in select() in this version of HP-UX. thanks, Mike Ciaraldi ciaraldi@ciaraldi.com (preferred) or ciaraldi@tiac.net From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Thu Jun 12 05:08:33 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA25425 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 1997 05:08:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA16709 for kermit.misc@watsun; Thu, 12 Jun 1997 05:08:26 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!newsfeed.usit.net!newsfeed.telalink.net!telalink!usenet From: apkenned@telalink.net (Alan P. Kennedy, Sr) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: How to capture only text data with Kermit? Date: 11 Jun 1997 18:30:13 -0500 Organization: Infinet Lines: 18 Sender: apkenned@home.telalink.net Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: dial2-dyn4-81.bna.telalink.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7149 Hi, I have kermit/2 and ckermit-6, and need to find a way to capture text data without any escape sequences? I have read the manual but really don't see away to do this. With kermit/2 I can cut and paste but I much rather save everything to a session log than do this every time. I also want to collect the information that I enter in the session. Therefore trying download to a text file would not work either. Are there any other options that I'm missing? When I use the "log session" command it captures everything including terminal (vt) escape sequences. Thanks, Alan From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Thu Jun 12 09:03:57 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA17209 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 1997 09:03:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA29669 for kermit.misc@watsun; Thu, 12 Jun 1997 09:03:55 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Resend #2: Problem Building HP-UX 9 C-Kermit Date: 12 Jun 1997 13:03:39 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 36 Message-ID: <5nos3b$sv3$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu> References: <5nmvka$sc0@news-central.tiac.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Keywords: HP-UX select {Sorry, this message was partially truncated the first time I sent it. Here is the complete version.} Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7150 In article <5nmvka$sc0@news-central.tiac.net>, Michael Ciaraldi wrote: : I am running an HP 9000 PA-RISC workstation under HP-UX 9.07. : The kermit that comes with it, C-Kermit 4E(072) works all right, : but I wanted to get the newest version. : : I downloaded the source from Columbia and compiled it with GCC : with the command "make hpux90gcc". : This compiled and linked without error. : : However, when I run it does not work correctly. : I can start kermit, set the line and speed, then connect. : Anything I type on my keyboard does not go out the serial port, : but things that come into the serial port from the other system : appear on my screen OK. As I mentioned, the old version of : Kermit works fine in this situation. : OK, so it's not 10.10 or later... C-Kermit 6.0.192 has been built with gcc and tested successfully on 9.07, but not by me personally. However, I have built and tested it on 9.05 with the HP compiler. : Any ideas? : Probably some peculiarity of your system's setup -- conflicting libraries and/or header files or somesuch. Maybe you installed a new version of HP-UX or the HP compilers or gcc without running fixincludes? In any case, try the prebuilt binaries from here: http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/ck60ubin.html Or try building at your place with the HP compiler (yes, I know the regular one is not optimized) instead of gcc. - Frank From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Thu Jun 12 09:06:02 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA17556 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 1997 09:06:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA29762 for kermit.misc@watsun; Thu, 12 Jun 1997 09:06:01 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: How to capture only text data with Kermit? Date: 12 Jun 1997 13:05:37 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 22 Message-ID: <5nos71$t1v$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7151 In article , Alan P. Kennedy, Sr wrote: : I have kermit/2 and ckermit-6, and need to find a way to capture text : data without any escape sequences? I have read the manual but really : don't see away to do this. : : With kermit/2 I can cut and paste but I much rather save everything to : a session log than do this every time. I also want to collect the : information that I enter in the session. Therefore trying download to a : text file would not work either. Are there any other options that I'm : missing? : : When I use the "log session" command it captures everything including : terminal (vt) escape sequences. : In Kermit/2 (i.e. Kermit 95 for OS/2): SET PRINTER And then use Alt-O to activate "copy screen lines to printer". - Frank From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Thu Jun 12 11:05:23 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA11466 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 1997 11:05:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA07198 for kermit.misc@watsun; Thu, 12 Jun 1997 11:05:22 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Announcing Kermit 95 1.1.12 for Windows 95, Windows NT, and OS/2 Date: 12 Jun 1997 15:05:16 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 51 Message-ID: <5np37c$70r$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7152 Kermit 95 1.1.12 is now available as a patch to registered users of previous Kermit 95 releases for Windows 95, Windows NT, and OS/2. This is a major new release of Kermit 95, but no, it is not the long-awaited full-GUI release, but it is a big step on the way. It replaces version 1.1.11 of 8 February 1997. The new features of version 1.1.12 include: . Microsoft Telephony (TAPI) support . Support for 10-digit and other special dialing methods . Support for 132 columns and other screen sizes in Windows 95 . File transfer pipes and filters . Web browser interface ("URL hot spots") . Greek character-set translation in file transfer and terminal emulation . Lots more The full announcement appears on comp.protocols.kermit.announce. HOW TO GET IT Kermit 95 1.1.12 is available as a patch to version 1.1.11 or earlier. Current registered users of Kermit 95 can download the 1.1.11 upgrade patch from our BBS or from our Web site: http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/k95patch.html or with ftp: ftp://kermit.columbia.edu/kermit/k95/patches/ All the new features are documented in the updated UPDATES.TXT file that comes in the patch, and in the updated BUGS.TXT file. Academic site or bulk licensees that have customized their DIALINF.DAT files will need to send them in so we can convert them to the new format, since the regular patch will fail (since it only knows what the original DIALINF.DAT contained, not your customized version). Contact us by email about this at: kermit-support@columbia.edu This is the final major release of Kermit 95 before the conversion to full GUI is complete later this year. There might be minor corrective patches between now and then, but nothing more. If you have any difficulty with the patches or the new version, please report them by email to the address above. Frank da Cruz & Christine M. Gianone Managers, The Kermit Project Columbia University New York City From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Fri Jun 13 09:36:44 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA25614 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 1997 09:36:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA09977 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 13 Jun 1997 09:36:43 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!psinntp!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news1.best.com!nntp1.ba.best.com!shell3.ba.best.com!shark7 From: shark7@best.com (Timothy Stark) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Where are graphics terminals? Date: 13 Jun 1997 13:11:15 GMT Organization: BEST Internet Communications, Inc. Lines: 16 Message-ID: <5nrgtj$mll$1@nntp1.ba.best.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: shell3.ba.best.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7154 Hi Folks: In the past, I used PC Kermit that have graphics emulations like Tek and others. Today I found out that Kermit 95 does not have them when I read your announcement about new Kermit 95. What happened to graphics emulations?! -- Tim Stark -- Timothy Stark <>< Inet: shark7@best.com, TimStark@AOL.com Arlington, Va. TTY: (703) 418-1483 FAX: (703) 418-1484 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. Amen." -- John 3:16 (King James Version Bible) From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Fri Jun 13 09:43:39 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA26777 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 1997 09:43:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA10297 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 13 Jun 1997 09:43:38 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: C-Kermit binary needed for ESIX Date: 13 Jun 1997 13:43:27 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 11 Message-ID: <5nripv$a1m$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7155 Someone is asking for a C-Kermit binary for "ESSIX R4.0.4" on an a 486 PC. They probably mean ESIX, but who knows. Can anybody out there build one? The source code is at: http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/ck60.html ftp://kermit.columbia.edu/kermit/archives/cku192.tar.{Z,gz} Please let me know. Thanks! - Frank From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Fri Jun 13 10:10:58 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA02133 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 1997 10:10:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA11787 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 13 Jun 1997 10:10:58 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Where are graphics terminals? Date: 13 Jun 1997 14:10:40 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 22 Message-ID: <5nrkd0$bg8$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu> References: <5nrgtj$mll$1@nntp1.ba.best.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7156 In article <5nrgtj$mll$1@nntp1.ba.best.com>, Timothy Stark wrote: : In the past, I used PC Kermit that have graphics emulations like Tek and : others. Today I found out that Kermit 95 does not have them when I read : your announcement about new Kermit 95. What happened to graphics : emulations?! : Contrary to widespread belief, Kermit 95 is not MS-DOS Kermit repackaged for 32-bit Windows and OS/2. It is an entirely separate program that does not share even one line of code with MS-DOS Kermit. As noted in the Web page: http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/k95.html Kermit 95 is -- for the present -- a console application and therefore prohibited from drawing graphics. So no graphic terminal emulations (Tek, Sixel, etc) until after the conversion to full GUI is complete. Sorry, these things take time. - Frank From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Fri Jun 13 13:14:35 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA10982 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 1997 13:14:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA22273 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 13 Jun 1997 13:14:34 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!howland.erols.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newspeer.santaclara.agis.net!agis!nntp.mainstreet.net!bug.rahul.net!rahul.net!a2i!dold.a2i!dold From: dold@10.usenet.us.com Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: C-Kermit binary needed for ESIX Date: 13 Jun 1997 16:58:42 GMT Organization: a2i network Lines: 20 Message-ID: <5nru82$sai@bug.rahul.net> References: <5nripv$a1m$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu> Reply-To: dold@network.rahul.net NNTP-Posting-Host: foxtrot.rahul.net NNTP-Posting-User: dold X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] X-Comment: Encoded From: line allows replies that preserve original subject Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7157 Frank da Cruz (fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu) wrote: : Someone is asking for a C-Kermit binary for "ESSIX R4.0.4" on an a 486 PC. : They probably mean ESIX, but who knows. Can anybody out there build one? : The source code is at: : http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/ck60.html : ftp://kermit.columbia.edu/kermit/archives/cku192.tar.{Z,gz} I thought I sent you a copy for filing... Maybe not, since I didn't build it on an ESIX machine. I don't have a compiler on the ESIX 4.0.4 box, but I compiled with ESIX switches on a Unixware box, and the binary seems to be fine on ESIX. It is used every day for file downloads to multiple PC's. -- --- Clarence A Dold - dold@network.rahul.net - Pope Valley & Napa CA. From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Fri Jun 13 15:56:37 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA13384 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 1997 15:56:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA02472 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 13 Jun 1997 15:56:36 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!hamblin.math.byu.edu!acs2.byu.edu!news.cuny.edu!news-pen-15.sprintlink.net!news.nysernet.net!208.5.234.3!news.netsense.net!news-pen-4.sprintlink.net!news-east.sprintlink.net!news-dc-26.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!newsfeed.internetmci.com!ncar!noao!math.arizona.edu!news.Arizona.EDU!not-for-mail From: dsew@packrat.aml.arizona.edu (David Sewell) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Announcing Kermit 95 1.1.12 for Windows 95, Windows NT, and OS/2 Date: 12 Jun 1997 19:14:45 GMT Organization: Department of Geosciences, University of Arizona Lines: 81 Message-ID: <5nphr5$mui$1@news.ccit.arizona.edu> References: <5np317$6qv$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: packrat.aml.arizona.edu X-Newsposter: trn 4.0-test56 (2 Mar 97) Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7159 In article <5np317$6qv$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu>, Frank da Cruz wrote: >Kermit 95 1.1.12 is now available as a patch to registered users of previous >Kermit 95 releases for Windows 95, Windows NT, and OS/2. This is a major new >release of Kermit 95, but no, it is not the long-awaited full-GUI release, but >it is a big step on the way. It replaces version 1.1.11 of 8 February 1997. The OS/2 patch wouldn't replace my .EXE files, so after running it I'm still getting version 1.1.11. I'll append the PATCH.ERR file that was generated. Any suggestions on how to proceed would be appreciated. (The program is a registered copy.) Thanks, David Sewell, U of Arizona Geosciences ===== ======= = == ======= =========== [file PATCH.ERR] ENTRY: cko32i12.dll warning wpt0036: Old File not found. However, a file of the same name was found. No update done since file contents do not match. ENTRY: cko32i20.dll warning wpt0036: Old File not found. However, a file of the same name was found. No update done since file contents do not match. ENTRY: cko32rt.dll warning wpt0036: Old File not found. However, a file of the same name was found. No update done since file contents do not match. ENTRY: k2clip.exe warning wpt0036: Old File not found. However, a file of the same name was found. No update done since file contents do not match. ENTRY: k2dc.exe warning wpt0036: Old File not found. However, a file of the same name was found. No update done since file contents do not match. ENTRY: k2reg.exe warning wpt0036: Old File not found. However, a file of the same name was found. No update done since file contents do not match. ENTRY: p2.dll warning wpt0036: Old File not found. However, a file of the same name was found. No update done since file contents do not match. ENTRY: rlogin.exe warning wpt0036: Old File not found. However, a file of the same name was found. No update done since file contents do not match. ENTRY: setup.exe warning wpt0015: Old File does not exist ENTRY: telnet.exe warning wpt0036: Old File not found. However, a file of the same name was found. No update done since file contents do not match. ENTRY: telnetpm.exe warning wpt0036: Old File not found. However, a file of the same name was found. No update done since file contents do not match. ENTRY: k2.exe warning wpt0036: Old File not found. However, a file of the same name was found. No update done since file contents do not match. ENTRY: k2dial.exe warning wpt0036: Old File not found. However, a file of the same name was found. No update done since file contents do not match. From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Sat Jun 14 09:30:52 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA02342 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 1997 09:30:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA27188 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sat, 14 Jun 1997 09:30:52 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.eecs.umich.edu!denws02.mw.mediaone.net!news.mw.highway1.com!cancer.vividnet.com!news1.netusa.net!feed1.news.erols.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!sierra.net!bug.rahul.net!rahul.net!a2i!dold.a2i!dold From: dold@93.usenet.us.com Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: I can't find the Digital Age article Date: 13 Jun 1997 17:01:13 GMT Organization: a2i network Lines: 11 Message-ID: <5nrucp$seg@bug.rahul.net> Reply-To: dold@network.rahul.net NNTP-Posting-Host: foxtrot.rahul.net NNTP-Posting-User: dold X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] X-Comment: Encoded From: line allows replies that preserve original subject Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7160 I know there is an article about Kermit in the May issue of Digital Age, but I can't locate a print copy. I've visited the online version, but I can't locate the proper article, only feature articles (of which, Kermit should certainly be ;-) -- --- Clarence A Dold - dold@network.rahul.net - Pope Valley & Napa CA. From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Sun Jun 15 17:13:55 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA14810 for ; Sun, 15 Jun 1997 17:13:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA10125 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sun, 15 Jun 1997 17:13:54 -0400 (EDT) From: dold@83.usenet.us.com Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Announcing Kermit 95 1.1.12 for Windows 95, Windows NT, and OS/2 Date: 15 Jun 1997 21:00:39 GMT Organization: a2i network Lines: 23 Message-ID: <5o1l5n$89d@bug.rahul.net> References: <5np317$6qv$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu> <5nphr5$mui$1@news.ccit.arizona.edu> Reply-To: dold@network.rahul.net NNTP-Posting-Host: foxtrot.rahul.net NNTP-Posting-User: dold X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] X-Comment: Encoded From: line allows replies that preserve original subject Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!newsfeed.direct.ca!HSNX.wco.com!news.west.net!news.flex.com!bug.rahul.net!rahul.net!a2i!dold.a2i!dold Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7163 : In article <5np317$6qv$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu>, : Frank da Cruz wrote: : >Kermit 95 1.1.12 is now available as a patch to registered users of : >Kermit 95 releases for Windows 95, Windows NT, and OS/2. This is a : >release of Kermit 95, but no, it is not the long-awaited full-GUI : >it is a big step on the way. It replaces version 1.1.11 of 8 David Sewell (dsew@packrat.aml.arizona.edu) wrote: : The OS/2 patch wouldn't replace my .EXE files, so after running it : I'm still getting version 1.1.11. I'll append the PATCH.ERR file that : was generated. Any suggestions on how to proceed would be appreciated. : (The program is a registered copy.) Mine didn't install either. The patch log tells me that several old files do not match, including K95.exe. It would be nice if the newly released version were available as a release, rather than a sequence of patches with unknown dependencies. When the GUI comes out, please make it a proper release. -- --- Clarence A Dold - dold@network.rahul.net - Pope Valley & Napa CA. From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Mon Jun 16 08:49:19 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA01120 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 08:49:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA17885 for kermit.misc@watsun; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 08:49:18 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-ge.switch.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!ubnnews.unisource.ch!newssrv.ita.tip.net!i2unix!cesi!meregalli From: meregalli@cesi.it (Alberto Meregalli (DIF)) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Spurious GOLD key on MS-Kermit 3.14 Message-ID: <1997Jun16.120504.1295@cesi> Date: 16 Jun 97 12:05:04 +0200 Organization: Centro Elettrotecnico Sperimentale Italiano, Milano, Italy Lines: 14 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7164 I use MSKermit 3.14 as a terminal emulator in Windows 3.1. I use also WPGGOLD because I need to emulate VT320. The protocol is LAT. I often jump across windows and sometime -- I can't tell how often, but it's not too seldom -- after jumping to a MSK window it sees a spurious GOLD key and behaves consequently. I couldn't see a mention of that in the documentation of MS-Kermit, both the book and the beware file. Has anybody seen that? How could I prevent it? regards --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Alberto Meregalli, DIF tel. +39 2 2125 249 CESI, Centro Elettrotecnico Sperimentale Italiano fax +39 2 2125 520 Via Rubattino, 54 - I 20134 Milano E-mail: meregalli@cesi.it From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Mon Jun 16 10:48:52 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA21205 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 10:48:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA24716 for kermit.misc@watsun; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 10:48:51 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: I can't find the Digital Age article Date: 16 Jun 1997 14:48:47 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 19 Message-ID: <5o3jof$o2c$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu> References: <5nrucp$seg@bug.rahul.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7165 In article <5nrucp$seg@bug.rahul.net>, wrote: : I know there is an article about Kermit in the May issue of Digital Age, but : I can't locate a print copy. : : I've visited the online version, but I can't locate the proper article, : only feature articles (of which, Kermit should certainly be ;-) : They didn't put this article online, so we can't link to it from our website, and they don't allow wholesale reproduction of it without permission (because this is the business of reprint companies), but "fair use" quotation is allowed by law and, in fact, a quote from the poster is included in the new C-Kermit 6.0 reviews section of our website: http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/ck60reviews.html which also includes excerpts from the six-page feature article on C-Kermit by Jim Dennis in the current (July 1997) issue of Sys Admin magazine. - Frank From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Mon Jun 16 10:53:42 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA22185 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 10:53:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA24950 for kermit.misc@watsun; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 10:53:40 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Announcing Kermit 95 1.1.12 for Windows 95, Windows NT, and OS/2 Date: 16 Jun 1997 14:53:34 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 26 Message-ID: <5o3k1e$obf$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu> References: <5np317$6qv$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu> <5nphr5$mui$1@news.ccit.arizona.edu> <5o1l5n$89d@bug.rahul.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7166 In article <5o1l5n$89d@bug.rahul.net>, wrote: : : In article <5np317$6qv$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu>, : : Frank da Cruz wrote: : : >Kermit 95 1.1.12 is now available as a patch to registered users of : : >Kermit 95 releases for Windows 95, Windows NT, and OS/2. This is a : : >release of Kermit 95, but no, it is not the long-awaited full-GUI : : >it is a big step on the way. It replaces version 1.1.11 of 8 : : David Sewell (dsew@packrat.aml.arizona.edu) wrote: : : The OS/2 patch wouldn't replace my .EXE files, so after running it : : I'm still getting version 1.1.11. I'll append the PATCH.ERR file that : : was generated. Any suggestions on how to proceed would be appreciated. : : (The program is a registered copy.) : : Mine didn't install either. : The patch log tells me that several old files do not match, including : K95.exe. : It would be nice if the newly released version were available as a release, : rather than a sequence of patches with unknown dependencies. : When the GUI comes out, please make it a proper release. : If anybody has troubles with the patch process, we are here to help -- like it said in the announcement. The fastest way to get help is to send email to kermit-support@columbia.edu. - Frank From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Mon Jun 16 14:39:13 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA12060 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 14:39:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA09123 for kermit.misc@watsun; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 14:39:12 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!europa.clark.net!newsfeed2.aimnet.com!news1.aplatform.com!nntp.mainstreet.net!bug.rahul.net!rahul.net!a2i!dold.a2i!dold From: dold@83.usenet.us.com Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Announcing Kermit 95 1.1.12 for Windows 95, Windows NT, and OS/2 Date: 16 Jun 1997 18:33:05 GMT Organization: a2i network Lines: 24 Message-ID: <5o40t1$a3n@bug.rahul.net> References: <5np317$6qv$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu> <5nphr5$mui$1@news.ccit.arizona.edu> <5o1l5n$89d@bug.rahul.net> <5o3k1e$obf$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu> Reply-To: dold@network.rahul.net NNTP-Posting-Host: foxtrot.rahul.net NNTP-Posting-User: dold X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] X-Comment: Encoded From: line allows replies that preserve original subject Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7167 Frank da Cruz (fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu) wrote: : If anybody has troubles with the patch process, we are here to help -- like : it said in the announcement. The fastest way to get help is to send email : to kermit-support@columbia.edu. Hey, no need to send email ;-) My posting, on a Sunday, was answered on Sunday via email from Jeff. While we bandied about the patch mechanism, I noticed that my previous patch to 1.11 had apparently failed, leaving the K95.exe at 1.1.8 I applied the 1.1.8-1.1.12 patch successfully. So, when I CTRL-click on a URL name in a K-95 window, I spawn a copy of my Web Browser, pointed to that page. If I click a second URL, it spawns a second copy of a browser. Would it be optional to invoke the new page on the existing browser? -- --- Clarence A Dold - dold@network.rahul.net - Pope Valley & Napa CA. From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Mon Jun 16 14:47:31 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA13557 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 14:47:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA13964 for kermit.misc@watsun; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 14:47:30 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Announcing Kermit 95 1.1.12 for Windows 95, Windows NT, and OS/2 Date: 16 Jun 1997 18:47:30 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 15 Message-ID: <5o41o2$dka$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu> References: <5np317$6qv$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu> <5o1l5n$89d@bug.rahul.net> <5o3k1e$obf$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu> <5o40t1$a3n@bug.rahul.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7168 In article <5o40t1$a3n@bug.rahul.net>, wrote: : ... : So, when I CTRL-click on a URL name in a K-95 window, I spawn a copy of : my Web Browser, pointed to that page. : If I click a second URL, it spawns a second copy of a browser. Would : it be optional to invoke the new page on the existing browser? : Not currently -- that's how we wanted to do it in the first place, but that would require knowing the API for every release of every browser on every platform, so for now we just start a new browser. It's not as dumb an approach as it might seem, however, since multiple browsers share the same memory for pure code in Windows 95, Windows NT, and OS/2. But yes, we do plan to revisit this question subsequent releases. - Frank From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Mon Jun 16 18:12:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA22969 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 18:12:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA26797 for kermit.misc@watsun; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 18:12:06 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!worldnet.att.net!newsadm From: Tom.Horsley@worldnet.att.net (Thomas A. Horsley) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Announcing Kermit 95 1.1.12 for Windows 95, Windows NT, and OS/2 Date: 16 Jun 1997 18:07:06 -0400 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Lines: 25 Sender: tom@SPIKE.cc.columbia.edu Message-ID: References: <5np317$6qv$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu> <5o1l5n$89d@bug.rahul.net> <5o3k1e$obf$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu> <5o40t1$a3n@bug.rahul.net> <5o41o2$dka$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.146.80.150 X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7169 >Not currently -- that's how we wanted to do it in the first place, but that >would require knowing the API for every release of every browser on every >platform, so for now we just start a new browser. It's not as dumb an >approach as it might seem, however, since multiple browsers share the same >memory for pure code in Windows 95, Windows NT, and OS/2. But yes, we do >plan to revisit this question subsequent releases. Not true - a browser independent API is already defined by Microsoft (but admittedly doesn't work on pre 4.0 versions of NT). For example, this little program will invoke a browser if it has to or just tell the existing browser to jump to the given URL, and it don't know 'nuthin about any browser: #include #include #include int __cdecl main(int argc, char **argv) { if (argc == 2) { ShellExecute(0, 0, argv[1], 0, 0, SW_NORMAL); } else { fputs("Please call with a single argument (a URL)\n", stderr); exit(2); } return 0; } From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Mon Jun 16 21:23:52 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA18508 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 21:23:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA10292 for kermit.misc@watsun; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 21:23:51 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!howland.erols.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news-in-east.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!199.45.255.100!coop.net!cs.umd.edu!hecate.umd.edu!haven.umd.edu!purdue!mozo.cc.purdue.edu!asphodel.ecn.purdue.edu!laird From: laird@asphodel.ecn.purdue.edu (Kyler Laird) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Announcing Kermit 95 1.1.12 for Windows 95, Windows NT, and OS/2 Date: 16 Jun 1997 23:42:07 GMT Organization: Purdue University Lines: 20 Message-ID: <5o4j0f$ivo@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> References: <5np317$6qv$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu> <5o1l5n$89d@bug.rahul.net> <5o3k1e$obf$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu> <5o40t1$a3n@bug.rahul.net> <5o41o2$dka$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: asphodel.ecn.purdue.edu X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.0 (NOV) Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7170 fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) writes: >: If I click a second URL, it spawns a second copy of a browser. Would >: it be optional to invoke the new page on the existing browser? >: >Not currently -- that's how we wanted to do it in the first place, but that >would require knowing the API for every release of every browser on every >platform, ...or simply getting users to write their own interfaces. All you need to do is write a simple program which either starts up a new browser with the given URL or directs the current browser to the given URL. Then just call that program instead of the browser. I did this for a hack of NN which I could trigger from XMosaic. --kyler From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Tue Jun 17 10:58:55 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA07844 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 1997 10:58:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA24366 for kermit.misc@watsun; Tue, 17 Jun 1997 10:58:46 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Announcing Kermit 95 1.1.12 for Windows 95, Windows NT, and OS/2 Date: 17 Jun 1997 14:58:43 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 38 Message-ID: <5o68n3$npc$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu> References: <5np317$6qv$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu> <5o40t1$a3n@bug.rahul.net> <5o41o2$dka$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu> <5o4j0f$ivo@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7171 In article <5o4j0f$ivo@mozo.cc.purdue.edu>, Kyler Laird wrote: : fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) writes: : >: If I click a second URL, it spawns a second copy of a : >: browser. Would it be optional to invoke the new page : >: on the existing browser? : >: : >Not currently -- that's how we wanted to do it in the : >first place, but that would require knowing the API for : >every release of every browser on every platform, : : ...or simply getting users to write their own interfaces. : All you need to do is write a simple program which either : starts up a new browser with the given URL or directs the : current browser to the given URL. : : Then just call that program instead of the browser. I : did this for a hack of NN which I could trigger from : XMosaic. : A "user exit"? That would be good if all of our users were programmers and had programming tools at their disposal. But it begs the larger question of "Kermit APIs" in general. Like I said, we'll revisit the browser issue in future releases. Yesterday, Tom Horsley suggested a "universal API" for invoking a browser, but it would take a lot of testing and verification to see how universal it really was: Windows 95 original, "B", SR2; Windows NT 3.51 and 4.0 (on Intel, Alpha, and Power PC); OS/2 2.0, 2.1, 3.0, 4.0. Each of these in combination with every release of every browser -- nothing is ever that easy. As for "user exits", DDE, OCX, and so on -- that's another question that's been on our list for some time. We can't do everything at once. - Frank From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Tue Jun 17 12:14:48 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA24027 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 1997 12:14:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA28587 for kermit.misc@watsun; Tue, 17 Jun 1997 12:14:48 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!203.108.7.42!uunet1.feed.news.ozemail.net!OzEmail-In!news From: "Steve Rance" Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: How to set up Kermit 6 - Server Side TCP/IP ? Date: Tue, 17 Jun 1997 16:30:42 +1000 Organization: OzEmail Ltd - Australia Lines: 18 Message-ID: <5o5aqa$48f@reader1.reader.news.ozemail.net> References: <5o5a76$792@reader1.reader.news.ozemail.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 203.108.32.97 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.0544.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE Engine V4.71.0544.0 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7172 News wrote in article <5o5a76$792@reader1.reader.news.ozemail.net>... |Hi, | |Can someone tell me how to set up kermit 6 to act as a server using |TCP/IP. |I am running this on a SGI (IRIX 5.3) and have read all the doco I can. | |I can only presume the information I require is in the printed |documentation. | | |Regards Steve Rance : mailto:stever@ozemail.com.au | | | From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Tue Jun 17 12:26:53 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA26062 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 1997 12:26:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA29226 for kermit.misc@watsun; Tue, 17 Jun 1997 12:26:52 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: How to set up Kermit 6 - Server Side TCP/IP ? Date: 17 Jun 1997 16:26:49 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 20 Message-ID: <5o6ds9$sh8$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu> References: <5o5a76$792@reader1.reader.news.ozemail.net> <5o5aqa$48f@reader1.reader.news.ozemail.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7173 In article <5o5aqa$48f@reader1.reader.news.ozemail.net>, Steve Rance wrote: : News wrote in article <5o5a76$792@reader1.reader.news.ozemail.net>... : |Can someone tell me how to set up kermit 6 to act as a server using : |TCP/IP. I am running this on a SGI (IRIX 5.3) and have read all the : |doco I can. I can only presume the information I require is in the : |printed documentation. : Yes, you should purchase the manual: http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/ck60manual.html The information is on pages 127-128, and in other pertinent sections (how to set up and configure a server, etc). The manual can be ordered in Australia by calling (03) 9245 7111. The ISBN is 1-55558-164-1. To answer your question briefly: "set host *" waits for a connection to come in. This is best done from a script. - Frank From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Tue Jun 17 12:32:03 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA28002 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 1997 12:32:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA29552 for kermit.misc@watsun; Tue, 17 Jun 1997 12:32:01 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!newsfeed.direct.ca!news.he.net!news.pagesat.net!decwrl!purdue!mozo.cc.purdue.edu!asphodel.ecn.purdue.edu!laird From: laird@asphodel.ecn.purdue.edu (Kyler Laird) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Announcing Kermit 95 1.1.12 for Windows 95, Windows NT, and OS/2 Date: 17 Jun 1997 16:15:36 GMT Organization: Purdue University Lines: 21 Message-ID: <5o6d78$hjf@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> References: <5np317$6qv$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu> <5o40t1$a3n@bug.rahul.net> <5o41o2$dka$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu> <5o4j0f$ivo@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> <5o68n3$npc$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: asphodel.ecn.purdue.edu X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.0 (NOV) Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7174 fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) writes: >: Then just call that program instead of the browser. I >: did this for a hack of NN which I could trigger from >: XMosaic. >A "user exit"? That would be good if all of our users were >programmers and had programming tools at their disposal. ...or if all users could use some large resource (let's call it "the Web") to download such tools created by other users. >As for "user exits", DDE, OCX, and so on -- that's another >question that's been on our list for some time. We can't >do everything at once. Understood. Someday, when I find a reason to upgrade from C-Kermit 5A(191), I might poke around in this, too. --kyler From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Tue Jun 17 17:57:35 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA05967 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 1997 17:57:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA20214 for kermit.misc@watsun; Tue, 17 Jun 1997 17:57:34 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.eli.net!news.burgoyne.com!news From: Brian W Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Divide Overflow and Colors Date: Tue, 17 Jun 1997 14:00:04 -0600 Organization: Burgoyne Computers Inc. Lines: 10 Message-ID: <33A6ECC4.640ED0F8@spillman.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: gw.spillman.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b5 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7175 I have a PC (pentium-166 & win95) wanting to connect serially to a Unix application. I had a terminfo that worked great with MS-kermit 3.13. The MS-kermit 3.13 causes a "divide overflow". I downloaded 3.15 which fixed the divide overflow problem but the colors are really dark and dim. Is there anyway to restore the old terminal emulation functionality from 3.13 to 3.15? Thanks in advance, bweston@spillman.com From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Tue Jun 17 17:59:53 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA06273 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 1997 17:59:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA20277 for kermit.misc@watsun; Tue, 17 Jun 1997 17:59:52 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Divide Overflow and Colors Date: 17 Jun 1997 21:59:47 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 15 Message-ID: <5o71cj$jpj$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu> References: <33A6ECC4.640ED0F8@spillman.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7176 In article <33A6ECC4.640ED0F8@spillman.com>, Brian W wrote: : I have a PC (pentium-166 & win95) wanting to connect serially to a Unix : application. I had a terminfo that worked great with MS-kermit 3.13. : The MS-kermit 3.13 causes a "divide overflow". I downloaded 3.15 which : fixed the divide overflow problem but the colors are really dark and : dim. Is there anyway to restore the old terminal emulation : functionality from 3.13 to 3.15? : MS-DOS Kermit is not supported under Windows 95 or NT. Kermit 95 is the supported and recommended Kermit software for those platforms: http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/k95.html - Frank From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Tue Jun 17 19:44:04 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA22840 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 1997 19:44:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA26912 for kermit.misc@watsun; Tue, 17 Jun 1997 19:44:03 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!worldnet.att.net!newsadm From: Tom.Horsley@worldnet.att.net (Thomas A. Horsley) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Announcing Kermit 95 1.1.12 for Windows 95, Windows NT, and OS/2 Date: 17 Jun 1997 18:50:07 -0400 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Lines: 13 Sender: tom@SPIKE.cc.columbia.edu Message-ID: References: <5np317$6qv$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu> <5o40t1$a3n@bug.rahul.net> <5o41o2$dka$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu> <5o4j0f$ivo@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> <5o68n3$npc$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.146.102.188 X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7177 >Like I said, we'll revisit the browser issue in future >releases. Yesterday, Tom Horsley suggested a "universal >API" for invoking a browser, but it would take a lot of >testing and verification to see how universal it really >was: Windows 95 original, "B", SR2; Windows NT 3.51 and 4.0 >(on Intel, Alpha, and Power PC); OS/2 2.0, 2.1, 3.0, 4.0. The "shell extensions" (which is what the ShellExecute function is part of) are on all versions of Windows 95 and on NT 4.0 and later. They definitely didn't exist on NT 3.51. (Wait, you mean you don't trust Microsoft documentation to match reality? :-). OS/2 I know nothing about... From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Tue Jun 17 20:17:28 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA26414 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 1997 20:17:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA28791 for kermit.misc@watsun; Tue, 17 Jun 1997 20:17:28 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!arclight.uoregon.edu!enews.sgi.com!news.sgi.com!newsfeed.netscape.com!pixie.mcom.com!news From: David Richardson Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: having trouble receiving a file Date: Tue, 17 Jun 1997 04:37:13 -0700 Organization: Another Netscape Collabra Server User Lines: 27 Message-ID: <33A676E9.1980@netscape.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.1.147.99 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0GoldC (X11; U; SunOS 5.5 sun4m) Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7178 I have a script that is dialing a number, then outputting a key, then receiving a file. The remote site is seeing the key but I am not able to receive the file. If someone could look at this script and give me some ideal what I am doing wrong. I would appreciate it. set terminal autodownload on set terminal debug on set transfer display none set input echo on show terminal call usrobotics /dev/ttyc 9600 9,6666666 output \13 input 10 if fail end 1 No prompt! pause 5 output 66666\13 pause 10 if fail end 1 No Prepare system message!! output receive\13 Thanks David R. From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Wed Jun 18 10:50:37 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA16547 for ; Wed, 18 Jun 1997 10:50:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA08088 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 18 Jun 1997 10:50:35 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: having trouble receiving a file Date: 18 Jun 1997 14:50:21 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 37 Message-ID: <5o8sjd$7rl$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu> References: <33A676E9.1980@netscape.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7179 In article <33A676E9.1980@netscape.com>, David Richardson wrote: : I have a script that is dialing a number, then outputting a key, then : receiving a file. The remote site is seeing the key but I am not able to : receive the file. If someone could look at this script and give me some : ideal what I am doing wrong. I would appreciate it. : : set terminal autodownload on : set terminal debug on : set transfer display none : set input echo on : : show terminal : : call usrobotics /dev/ttyc 9600 9,6666666 : What if the call is not completed? You need an "if fail" here. : output \13 : input 10 : if fail end 1 No prompt! : pause 5 : output 66666\13 : : pause 10 : if fail end 1 No Prepare system message!! : output receive\13 : This sends "receive" and then a carriage return to the other side. Is that what you want? Are you trying to send a file or receive one? See the chapters on script programming in the manual, "Using C-Kermit", for numerous examples of how to do this: http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/ck60manual.html - Frank From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Wed Jun 18 10:54:47 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA17151 for ; Wed, 18 Jun 1997 10:54:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA08275 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 18 Jun 1997 10:54:46 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Announcing Kermit 95 1.1.12 for Windows 95, Windows NT, and OS/2 Date: 18 Jun 1997 14:54:40 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 26 Message-ID: <5o8srg$82h$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu> References: <5np317$6qv$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu> <5o4j0f$ivo@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> <5o68n3$npc$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7180 In article , Thomas A. Horsley wrote: : >Like I said, we'll revisit the browser issue in future : >releases. Yesterday, Tom Horsley suggested a "universal : >API" for invoking a browser, but it would take a lot of : >testing and verification to see how universal it really : >was: Windows 95 original, "B", SR2; Windows NT 3.51 and 4.0 : >(on Intel, Alpha, and Power PC); OS/2 2.0, 2.1, 3.0, 4.0. : : The "shell extensions" (which is what the ShellExecute : function is part of) are on all versions of Windows 95 and : on NT 4.0 and later. They definitely didn't exist on NT : 3.51. (Wait, you mean you don't trust Microsoft : documentation to match reality? :-). : No comment. So fine, it's available in Windows 95 and NT 4.0++. But that doesn't say anything about the browsers. How many browsers exist for these platforms? (We know about Netscape and IE, but there are many others, less well known, no?) How many different releases of each browser? Do they all allow themselves to be invoked in this way? If somebody has the answers to these questions, it might save us a lot of work. - Frank From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Wed Jun 18 15:14:32 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA11188 for ; Wed, 18 Jun 1997 15:14:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA23802 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 18 Jun 1997 15:14:31 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!hamblin.math.byu.edu!acs2.byu.edu!news.cuny.edu!news-pen-15.sprintlink.net!news.nysernet.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news-in-east.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!131.103.1.114!chi-news.cic.net!howland.erols.net!news.mathworks.com!camelot.ccs.neu.edu!not-for-mail From: Rich Pieri Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Announcing Kermit 95 1.1.12 for Windows 95, Windows NT, and OS/2 Date: 18 Jun 1997 11:11:52 -0400 Organization: Prescient Technologies, Inc. Lines: 32 Sender: ratinox@swec-fw-e0.swec.com Message-ID: References: <5np317$6qv$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu> <5o4j0f$ivo@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> <5o68n3$npc$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu> <5o8srg$82h$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: swec-fw-e0.swec.com X-No-Archive: yes X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.4.56/Emacs 19.34 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7181 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>>>> "FdC" == Frank da Cruz writes: FdC> Do they all allow themselves to be invoked in this way? If somebody FdC> has the answers to these questions, it might save us a lot of work. *EVERY* application installed on a Windows 95 or Windows/NT 4.0 machine is supposed to create the proper Shell Execute Registry entries so that you do not have to do any extra work. This is thoroughly and accurately documented by Microsoft. If the application installer does not create these keys then it is broken. By the by, the last version of Navigator that did not create shelex keys is 1.22, which predates both Windows 95 and Windows/NT 4.0. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 4.0 Business Edition Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBM6f6sJ6VRH7BJMxHAQGYkQP+P73QrqPiA0iAL93yhTdS00aM1XrhIA8Z Z1khjKxTCFdqrAiVxDdVDPHTjELhncx85++CYDb8tOBlUKYaDGKkj4GrKT1LuRNF z/IvFhS7O0QiwqnKfMyfO1vBRjjD7azcHAGkoTKEvSVfzqHP4HyqM5yYgagBuhvg N+voj9F1Cw8= =FDP+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Rich Pieri | Happy Fun Ball may stick to certain Prescient Technologies, Inc. | types of skin. A Stone & Webster Company | I speak for myself, not PTI or SWEC | From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Wed Jun 18 15:37:09 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA16905 for ; Wed, 18 Jun 1997 15:37:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA25294 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 18 Jun 1997 15:37:08 -0400 (EDT) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!uucp1.uu.net!world!wpns From: wpns@world.std.com (William Smith) Subject: K95 WWWebBrowser interface Message-ID: Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 10:31:18 GMT Lines: 16 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7182 I just installed the .12 update to Kermit95, and I'm not sure how I lved without the WWWebBrowser interface all these years, thanks! Would it be possible to clean up URLs slightly before passing them off to the browser (in the next release)? The major problem is that when people write URLs in mail or news they tend to put periods at the end, so you try to get things like http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/k95.html. Usually the ending period is so small and the error message is just misleading enough that it looks like the page is invalid... Thanks! -- Willie Smith wpns@world.std.com N1JBJ@amsat.org #define NII Information SuperCollider From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Wed Jun 18 19:45:27 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA03891 for ; Wed, 18 Jun 1997 19:45:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA10681 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 18 Jun 1997 19:45:26 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!news.msfc.nasa.gov!europa.clark.net!worldnet.att.net!newsadm From: Tom.Horsley@worldnet.att.net (Thomas A. Horsley) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Announcing Kermit 95 1.1.12 for Windows 95, Windows NT, and OS/2 Date: 18 Jun 1997 19:40:42 -0400 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Lines: 25 Sender: tom@SPIKE.cc.columbia.edu Message-ID: References: <5np317$6qv$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu> <5o4j0f$ivo@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> <5o68n3$npc$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu> <5o8srg$82h$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.146.67.225 X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7183 >How many different releases of each browser? Do they all allow themselves >to be invoked in this way? If somebody has the answers to these questions, >it might save us a lot of work. The way the shell extensions really work "under the hood" should mean that any browser can be successfully invoked. The ShellExecute function really winds up looking up information in the registry which describes how to invoke the browser and if it has a DDE interface so it can talk to an existing copy. Even if some browser doesn't support the DDE or OLE interfaces to allow an existing browser to be switched to a new URL remotely, the registry entries can still describe how to invoke a new copy with an argument passed in, so in the worst case, it would be able to do what kermit does today, but in the best case, it would use the existing browser (but it is hard to imagine anyone shipping a browser today that doesn't support the fancy interface, at least if they expect anyone to actually be willing to use it). The whole "shell extensions" stuff really just boils down to a fancier set of code that still does just about the same thing the original feature that "associated" a tool with a file extension did, only now it can recognize more complicated stuff than a simple file extension (like a leading "http://" instead of a trailing ".doc", etc.). -- See for information on Government by Performance From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Wed Jun 18 20:20:16 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA07140 for ; Wed, 18 Jun 1997 20:20:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA12578 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 18 Jun 1997 20:20:14 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!jaltman From: jaltman@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Jeffrey Altman) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Announcing Kermit 95 1.1.12 for Windows 95, Windows NT, and OS/2 Date: 19 Jun 1997 00:20:07 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 33 Message-ID: <5o9tvn$c90$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu> References: <5np317$6qv$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu> <5o8srg$82h$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7184 In article , Thomas A. Horsley wrote: : >How many different releases of each browser? Do they all allow themselves : >to be invoked in this way? If somebody has the answers to these questions, : >it might save us a lot of work. : There is no reason why you couldn't take the sample code you posted a few days ago and compile it into a program called ShellEx.Exe and then SET BROWSER ShellEx.Exe in your K95CUSTOM.INI file to get exactly the functionality that you are looking for. One of the benefits of the way that K95 currently works is that the user can guarantee which application is going to be started. For instance, on my system I keep both Internet Explorer and Netscape. There are some sights that look better in one than in the other. With K95, I can SET BROWSER which ever one I want to use depending upon what I am doing. That is not the case if we relied exclusively on the ShellExecute command. We appreciate your notifying us of the existance of the command and of explaining how it works. However, at least for the short term we will continue to implement the Hot links the way that they are. Especially given the easy method available for allowing any user to call ShellExecute on systems that support it. Jeffrey Altman * Sr.Software Designer * Kermit-95 for Win32 and OS/2 The Kermit Project * Columbia University 612 West 115th St #716 * New York, NY * 10025 * (212) 854-1344 http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/k95.html * kermit-support@columbia.edu From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Wed Jun 18 20:38:46 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA10432 for ; Wed, 18 Jun 1997 20:38:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA13806 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 18 Jun 1997 20:38:45 -0400 (EDT) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!europa.clark.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!uucp5.uu.net!world!wpns From: wpns@world.std.com (William Smith) Subject: Re: K95 WWWebBrowser interface Message-ID: Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA References: Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 15:40:03 GMT Lines: 16 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7185 [I wrote] >I just installed the .12 update to Kermit95, and I'm not sure how I >lved without the WWWebBrowser interface all these years, thanks! I just upgraded my work K95, and it doesn't seem to do the WWWebBrowser thang, the only differences I can think of is that home uses DUN, while work has a T1 and uses proxy access to http: Does not having a modem installed at all (at work) make a difference? I've reinstalled from scratch to no avail... Thanks! -- Willie Smith wpns@world.std.com N1JBJ@amsat.org #define NII Information SuperCollider From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Wed Jun 18 21:05:32 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA13031 for ; Wed, 18 Jun 1997 21:05:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA15290 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 18 Jun 1997 21:05:31 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!jaltman From: jaltman@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Jeffrey Altman) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: K95 WWWebBrowser interface Date: 19 Jun 1997 01:05:26 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 24 Message-ID: <5oa0km$eto$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7186 In article , William Smith wrote: : [I wrote] : >I just installed the .12 update to Kermit95, and I'm not sure how I : >lved without the WWWebBrowser interface all these years, thanks! : : I just upgraded my work K95, and it doesn't seem to do the : WWWebBrowser thang, the only differences I can think of is that home : uses DUN, while work has a T1 and uses proxy access to http: : : Does not having a modem installed at all (at work) make a difference? : I've reinstalled from scratch to no avail... : : Thanks! : Do you have a browser installed? What does SHOW BROWSER say? Jeffrey Altman * Sr.Software Designer * Kermit-95 for Win32 and OS/2 The Kermit Project * Columbia University 612 West 115th St #716 * New York, NY * 10025 * (212) 854-1344 http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/k95.html * kermit-support@columbia.edu From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Wed Jun 18 22:17:57 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA21932 for ; Wed, 18 Jun 1997 22:17:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA19734 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 18 Jun 1997 22:17:55 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!worldnet.att.net!newsadm From: Tom.Horsley@worldnet.att.net (Thomas A. Horsley) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Announcing Kermit 95 1.1.12 for Windows 95, Windows NT, and OS/2 Date: 18 Jun 1997 21:21:40 -0400 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Lines: 11 Sender: tom@SPIKE.cc.columbia.edu Message-ID: References: <5np317$6qv$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu> <5o8srg$82h$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu> <5o9tvn$c90$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.146.100.225 X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7187 >There is no reason why you couldn't take the sample code you posted a >few days ago and compile it into a program called ShellEx.Exe and then > SET BROWSER ShellEx.Exe >in your K95CUSTOM.INI file to get exactly the functionality that you >are looking for. It might be even niftier if you made the ShellEx.Exe file part of the distribution so folks who don't have a compiler could set it up that way (its hardly the sort of major software there could be any copyright problems with - I originally found it in a posting in one of the microsoft news groups). From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Thu Jun 19 14:13:49 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA11928 for ; Thu, 19 Jun 1997 14:13:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA12039 for kermit.misc@watsun; Thu, 19 Jun 1997 14:13:44 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!news-dc-10.sprintlink.net!news-dc-2.sprintlink.net!news-east.sprintlink.net!news-dc-26.sprintlink.net!news-pen-4.sprintlink.net!news-pen-15.sprintlink.net!news.nysernet.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!205.240.249.225!news.webIT.eds.com!news.ses.cio.eds.com!not-for-mail From: Steve Curtin Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Microcom HD/FAST with Kermit Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 10:51:19 -0400 Organization: EDS CIS Lines: 23 Message-ID: <33A7F5E7.6C82@sag.gmeds.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: edssa03.sag.gmeds.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4m) Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7189 I am trying to get Kermit to work with a Microcom HD/FAST V.34 Modem (Rack mount). The problem I'm encountering is that the HD/FAST doesn't respond with "OK" it responds with "VAL". I've tried changing the results codes to short (v0\v0), adding the modem to ckudia.c and recompiling (with wake_prompt set to "VAL") and anything else I could think of. I still get "DIAL Failure: Error initializing modem." I set logging to debug and saw that VAL was being returned, but it seems that "getok" dosen't recognize it. Is there something else I need to set? Is there a way to make the modem return "OK" or "0"? Any help is appreciated. -- Steve Curtin Engineering Systems Engineer Network Team EDS, DELPHI Saginaw Steering Systems Work Email: curtins@sag.gmeds.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Office Phone/Voice Mail: (517) 757-3162 |The secret to success is GM Dial8: 8 357-3162 | not being GREAT at 1 thing... Office Fax: (517) 757-5884 | Pager: (517) 771-7203 |It's being GOOD at 100 things. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Thu Jun 19 14:30:21 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA14909 for ; Thu, 19 Jun 1997 14:30:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA13026 for kermit.misc@watsun; Thu, 19 Jun 1997 14:30:20 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Microcom HD/FAST with Kermit Date: 19 Jun 1997 18:30:15 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 34 Message-ID: <5obtrn$cmv$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu> References: <33A7F5E7.6C82@sag.gmeds.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7190 In article <33A7F5E7.6C82@sag.gmeds.com>, Steve Curtin wrote: : I am trying to get Kermit to work with a Microcom HD/FAST V.34 Modem : (Rack mount). The problem I'm encountering is that the HD/FAST doesn't : respond with "OK" it responds with "VAL". : That means it is set to use the ITU-T (nee CCITT) V.25bis command set rather than the Hayes one. : I've tried changing the results codes to short (v0\v0), adding the modem : to ckudia.c and recompiling (with wake_prompt set to "VAL") and anything : else I could think of. : The current version of C-Kermit is 6.0: http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/ck60.html It is supposed to handle V.25bis if you tell it to: set modem type itu-t-v25bis : I still get "DIAL Failure: Error initializing modem." I set logging to : debug and saw that VAL was being returned, but it seems that "getok" : dosen't recognize it. Is there something else I need to set? Is there a : way to make the modem return "OK" or "0"? Any help is appreciated. : If "set modem type itu-t-v25bis" does not work, let me know. Of course, you should also be able to set your modems to use the Hayes command set -- I don't think Microcom sells any V.25bis-only modems. Look in your manual to find out how to do this. But first try using C-Kermit to control them in V.25bis mode and let me know how it goes. - Frank From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Fri Jun 20 01:21:38 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA28994 for ; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 01:21:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA21524 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 01:21:37 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feed.nntp.acc.ca!newsfeeder.toronto.ican.net!news.rochester.ican.net!not-for-mail From: vefatica@syr.edu (Vincent Fatica) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: ShellExecute() Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 05:01:46 GMT Organization: Syracuse University Mathematics Lines: 47 Message-ID: <33a9fbb4.471671067@news.rochester.ican.net> Reply-To: vefatica@syr.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp-048.syracuse-01.ican.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.01/32.397 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7191 OK ... so I built this useful little one-liner (on NT 4.0 with MSVC++4.0) ... //SE.CPP #include HINSTANCE main ( int argc, char * argv[] ) {return ShellExecute(NULL, "open", argv[1], (argc > 2) ? argv[2] : NULL, (argc > 3) ? argv[3] : NULL, SW_SHOW); } syntax: SE [shell_object] [parameters [working dir]] (Empty and multiword "parameters" must be "quoted"; likewise path\program names containing spaces.) It can be used as K95's browser (tried it). Also, if you invoke SE from the K95 command line (with "run"), since SE itself exits, you can return to the K95 prompt while the browser (or whatever) is still running. It works here (on NT); no promises intended. Command line examples: se http://www.kermit.columbia (netscape, (here)) se c: (explorer) se c:\winnt (explorer) se CMD "" c:\winnt (CMD session) se CMD "/c file.bat" (run bat & quit) se mailto:vefatica@syr.edu (pmail, (here)) se file.txt (notepad) se file.doc (word, (here)) se ftp://kermit.columbia.edu (netscape) se CMD "/k dir /s /p" h:\k95\ (run dir & stay) se (starts explorer in root/boot dir (here anyway)) SE should start anything the shell knows how to handle, otherwise, fail and return 0. Anyone is welcomed to it. Get it (15872 bytes) at: ftp://math.syr.edu/pub/vefatica/se.exe - Vince ___ Vincent Fatica Syracuse University Mathematics vefatica@syr.edu http://barnyard.syr.edu/~vefatica/ From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Fri Jun 20 09:31:28 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA21174 for ; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 09:31:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA06318 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 09:31:27 -0400 (EDT) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!uunet!in1.uu.net!192.67.173.4!news.decus.org!eisner!hoehne From: hoehne@eisner.decus.org (Dale Hoehne) Subject: Win95 w/msdos kermit 3.11 problem X-Nntp-Posting-User: HOEHNE Lines: 11 Organization: DECUServe Message-ID: <1997Jun20.085115.1@eisner> X-Trace: 866811099/4039 X-Nntp-Posting-Host: eisner.decus.org Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 12:51:15 GMT Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7192 Win95 using MSDos Kermit 3.11 (set to use the pc serial port com1). Kermit is used to emulate a VT keyboard via the serial connection to a VAX/VMS system ... Occasionally selected pc's abort with a "windows protection violation" while using the kermit connection... I realize there is a Win95 version of kermit that might solve this problem but the VAX connection using kermit will be going away in the near future so there is no need to purchase/install new software ... but, if possible I would like to find out the problem .. Thanks in advance for any assistance. Dale Hoehne - hoehne@eisner.decus.org (speaking only for myself) From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Fri Jun 20 09:32:18 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA21689 for ; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 09:32:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA06338 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 09:32:17 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!newsfeed.direct.ca!news.wildstar.net!serv.hinet.net!netnews.hinet.net!news From: Hilaire Fernandes Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: kemit under Acorn computer Date: Thu, 19 Jun 1997 23:09:33 +0800 Organization: Arm's Tech Lines: 13 Message-ID: <33A94BAD.141C@ms11.hinet.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 168.95.102.131 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7193 Hello, I really need a kermit software for Acron Computer (for a A4) able to handle the server mode. The Kermit program doesn't work. It's a very old port under Arthur OS and the serial connector was buggy at this time. Thank you Hilaire Fernandes From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Fri Jun 20 10:06:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA27080 for ; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 10:06:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA08336 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 10:06:05 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: kemit under Acorn computer Date: 20 Jun 1997 14:05:48 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 36 Message-ID: <5oe2ns$842$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu> References: <33A94BAD.141C@ms11.hinet.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7194 In article <33A94BAD.141C@ms11.hinet.net>, Hilaire Fernandes wrote: : : I really need a kermit software for Acron Computer (for a A4) able to : handle the server mode. The Kermit program doesn't work. It's a very : old port under Arthur OS and the serial connector was buggy at this time. : We have the following Kermit programs for Acorn computers. They are all contributed from elsewhere -- we don't have any Acorns here. So first be sure you have picked the most appropriate one. Then if it doesn't work to your satisfaction, see if you can contact the author (if s/he is listed in the source code or documentation). Failing that, you have the source code so you can fix it yourself -- and if you do, please send the result back to us so others can benefit from it too. Prefix, Operating Program Program Released Tape Machine System Language Version yy/mm/dd Contributor AR C Acorn Archimedes Arthur C 1.3 93/05/01 Acorn Computers AR C Acorn Archimedes RISC_OS C 1.3 93/05/01 Acorn Computers BBC C Acorn BBC B OS1.20 6502 Assem. 1.45 87/05/19 Lancaster U BBC C Acorn BBC B+ OS 2 6502 Assem. 1.45 87/05/19 Lancaster U BBC C Acorn BBC B+128 OS 2 6502 Assem. 1.45 87/05/19 Lancaster U CP A Acorn BBC Micro CPM80 2.2 LASM 4.11 91/04/23 M.Freeman BPA CP A Acorn BBC Torch CPM80 2.2 LASM 4.11 91/04/23 M.Freeman BPA BBC C Acorn Compact OS 3 6502 Assem. 1.45 87/05/19 Lancaster U BBC C Acorn Compact Panos C 4C 57 87/07/14 Acorn Computers BBC C Acorn Master 128 OS 3 6502 Assem. 1.45 87/05/19 Lancaster U AC C AcornWorkstation PANOS C - 87/07/13 Acorn Computers The letter in the second column corresponds the the subdirectory of the kermit directory on kermit.columbia.edu (use lowercase). The first column is the filename prefix (but use lowercase). Example: mget kermit/c/bbc*.* - Frank From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Fri Jun 20 10:12:21 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA28002 for ; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 10:12:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA08770 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 10:12:20 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Win95 w/msdos kermit 3.11 problem Date: 20 Jun 1997 14:12:08 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 42 Message-ID: <5oe33o$8hu$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu> References: <1997Jun20.085115.1@eisner> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7195 In article <1997Jun20.085115.1@eisner>, Dale Hoehne wrote: : Win95 using MSDos Kermit 3.11 (set to use the pc serial port com1). : Kermit is used to emulate a VT keyboard via the serial connection to : a VAX/VMS system ... Occasionally selected pc's abort with a "windows : protection violation" while using the kermit connection... I realize : there is a Win95 version of kermit that might solve this problem but : the VAX connection using kermit will be going away in the near future : so there is no need to purchase/install new software ... but, if possible : I would like to find out the problem .. Thanks in advance for any assistance. : First, here is the official party line: MS-DOS Kermit is not recommended or supported for Windows 95 or NT for the very good reason that it was not written for those platforms. It can not make network connections, it does not understand long file names, and in many cases it cannot find the serial ports or modems. It expects to have full control of your PC: memory, video adapter, interrupt controller, serial port, network adapter. This is not possible under Windows 95 and NT. If MS-DOS Kermit works at all in those environments, it is an accident, and it is risky. Kermit 95 is the recommended and supported software for Windows 95 and NT. It is fully native, 32-bit, multithread, protected-mode, preemptive multitasking, using only Windows 32 APIs, and is a 32-bit Winsock client for completely straightforward network connections that coexist with your Web browser and all other network applications. It has built-in support for nearly 60 different modems; it emulates over 25 different terminals; it is not only a serial communications program but also a Telnet and Rlogin client, and supports XYZMODEM protocols as well as Kermit file transfer. More information about Kermit 95 at: http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/k95.html Second: Try MS-DOS Kermit 3.14 (the current version). If it works for you, fine. Otherwise, you're on your own: http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/mskermit.html - Frank From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Fri Jun 20 18:15:10 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA07367 for ; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 18:15:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA13807 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 18:15:09 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.gsl.net!news-dc.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!duke.telepac.pt!news.telepac.pt!usenet From: cel@mail.telepac.pt (Paul Vieira) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Problems using Kermit 95 with COM1 and COM3. Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 10:00:01 GMT Lines: 12 Message-ID: <5odrb1$mrv@duke.telepac.pt> NNTP-Posting-Host: bg3-p5.telepac.pt X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7196 I have a PC ( NT 4.0) with 3 serial ports (each one is connected to a modem). I made 3 scripts (one for each port) in Kermit 95 to receive files from the outside. The problem is that I can't run the scripts on COM1 and COM3 at the same time, because one of the modems will not work (initialize). I think the problem is related with the IRQ's ( COM1 and COM3 use the same IRQ). How can I resolve this problem? Thank you in advance. Paul Vieira cel@mail.telepac.pt From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Fri Jun 20 18:36:45 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA11899 for ; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 18:36:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA15092 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 18:36:44 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Problems using Kermit 95 with COM1 and COM3. Date: 20 Jun 1997 22:36:37 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 37 Message-ID: <5of0ll$eng$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu> References: <5odrb1$mrv@duke.telepac.pt> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7197 In article <5odrb1$mrv@duke.telepac.pt>, Paul Vieira wrote: : I have a PC ( NT 4.0) with 3 serial ports (each one is connected to a : modem). I made 3 scripts (one for each port) in Kermit 95 to receive : files from the outside. The problem is that I can't run the scripts on : COM1 and COM3 at the same time, because one of the modems will not : work (initialize). I think the problem is related with the IRQ's : ( COM1 and COM3 use the same IRQ). How can I resolve this problem? : This is a canned reply to all queries regarding the use of MS-DOS Kermit on Windows 95 and NT, which are coming in at an ever-increasing rate: MS-DOS Kermit is not recommended or supported for Windows 95 or NT for the very good reason that it was not written for those platforms. It can not make network connections, it does not understand long file names, TAPI port/modem sharing, and in many cases it cannot find the serial ports or modems at all. It expects to have full control of your PC: memory, video adapter, interrupt controller, serial port, network adapter. This is not possible under Windows 95 and NT. If MS-DOS Kermit works at all in those environments, it is an accident, it is risky, and it is very likely to run in a degraded mode. Kermit 95 is the recommended and supported software for Windows 95 and NT. It is fully native, 32-bit, multithread, protected-mode, preemptive multitasking, using only Windows 32 APIs, and is a 32-bit Winsock client for completely straightforward network connections that coexist with your Web browser and all other network applications. It has built-in support for nearly 60 different modems; it emulates over 25 different terminals; it is not only a serial communications program but also a Telnet and Rlogin client, and supports XYZMODEM protocols as well as Kermit file transfer. More information about Kermit 95 at: http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/k95.html - Frank From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Fri Jun 20 23:14:53 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA16342 for ; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 23:14:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA02486 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 23:14:52 -0400 (EDT) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: ShellExecute() Message-ID: <33aa9b09.2490401@news.opus1.com> From: hatcher@flash.net (Erik Hatcher) Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 15:04:07 GMT Reply-To: hatcher@flash.net References: <33a9fbb4.471671067@news.rochester.ican.net> Nntp-Posting-Host: ip011.pvsoftware.com X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.1/32.230 Lines: 146 Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!howland.erols.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.he.net!gridnntp1!summer.Opus1.COM!opus1.com!opus1.com!nntp Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7198 Why re-invent the wheel folks??? Win95 and WinNT 4.0 both have a way of doing this without writing a new program. Its the "start" command. I tried it by using "start http://www.pvsoftware.com" and it worked by opening that page in the *already* opened browser (IE 3). Here's the output of "start /?"... Starts a separate window to run a specified program or command. START ["title"] [/Dpath] [/I] [/MIN] [/MAX] [/SEPARATE | /SHARED] [/LOW | /NORMAL | /HIGH | /REALTIME] [/WAIT] [/B] [command/program] [parameters] "title" Title to display in window title bar. path Starting directory I The new environment will be the original environment passed to the cmd.exe and not the current environment. MIN Start window minimized MAX Start window maximized SEPARATE Start 16-bit Windows program in separate memory space SHARED Start 16-bit Windows program in shared memory space LOW Start application in the IDLE priority class NORMAL Start application in the NORMAL priority class HIGH Start application in the HIGH priority class REALTIME Start application in the REALTIME priority class WAIT Start application and wait for it to terminate B Start application without creating a new window. The application has ^C handling ignored. Unless the application enables ^C processing, ^Break is the only way to interrupt the application command/program If it is an internal cmd command or a batch file then the command processor is run with the /K switch to cmd.exe. This means that the window will remain after the command has been run. If it is not an internal cmd command or batch file then it is a program and will run as either a windowed application or a console application. parameters These are the parameters passed to the command/program If Command Extensions are enabled, external command invocation through the command line or the START command changes as follows: non-executable files may be invoked through their file association just by typing the name of the file as a command. (e.g. WORD.DOC would launch the application associated with the .DOC file extension). See the ASSOC and FTYPE commands for how to create these associations from within a command script. When executing an application that is a 32-bit GUI application, CMD.EXE does not wait for the application to terminate before returning to the command prompt. This new behavior does NOT occur if executing within a command script. When executing a command line whose first token is CMD without an extension or path qualifier, then replaces CMD with the value of the COMSPEC variable, thus avoiding picking up random versions of CMD.EXE when you least expect them. When executing a command line whose first token does NOT contain an extension, then CMD.EXE uses the value of the PATHEXT environment variable to determine which extensions to look for and in what order. The default value for the PATHEXT variable is: .COM;.EXE;.BAT;.CMD Notice the syntax is the same as the PATH variable, with semicolons separating the different elements. When executing a command, if there is no match on any extension, then looks to see if the name, without any extension, matches a directory name and if it does, the START command launches the Explorer on that path. If done from the command line, it is the equivalent to doing a CD /D to that path. On Fri, 20 Jun 1997 05:01:46 GMT, vefatica@syr.edu (Vincent Fatica) wrote: >OK ... so I built this useful little one-liner (on NT 4.0 with >MSVC++4.0) ... > >//SE.CPP >#include >HINSTANCE main ( int argc, char * argv[] ) >{return ShellExecute(NULL, "open", argv[1], > (argc > 2) ? argv[2] : NULL, > (argc > 3) ? argv[3] : NULL, > SW_SHOW); >} > >syntax: SE [shell_object] [parameters [working dir]] > >(Empty and multiword "parameters" must be "quoted"; likewise >path\program names containing spaces.) > >It can be used as K95's browser (tried it). Also, if you invoke SE >from the K95 command line (with "run"), since SE itself exits, you can >return to the K95 prompt while the browser (or whatever) is still >running. It works here (on NT); no promises intended. > >Command line examples: > > se http://www.kermit.columbia (netscape, (here)) > se c: (explorer) > se c:\winnt (explorer) > se CMD "" c:\winnt (CMD session) > se CMD "/c file.bat" (run bat & quit) > se mailto:vefatica@syr.edu (pmail, (here)) > se file.txt (notepad) > se file.doc (word, (here)) > se ftp://kermit.columbia.edu (netscape) > se CMD "/k dir /s /p" h:\k95\ (run dir & stay) > se (starts explorer in root/boot dir (here anyway)) > >SE should start anything the shell knows how to handle, otherwise, >fail and return 0. Anyone is welcomed to it. Get it (15872 bytes) at: > > ftp://math.syr.edu/pub/vefatica/se.exe > > - Vince >___ > Vincent Fatica > Syracuse University Mathematics > vefatica@syr.edu > http://barnyard.syr.edu/~vefatica/ From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Sat Jun 21 00:29:18 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA24924 for ; Sat, 21 Jun 1997 00:29:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA06369 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sat, 21 Jun 1997 00:29:13 -0400 (EDT) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-feed1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news-in.ConnActivity.com!fcshome!fredex From: fredex@fcshome.stoneham.ma.us (Fred Smith) Subject: Re: Problems using Kermit 95 with COM1 and COM3. X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Organization: None! Message-ID: References: <5odrb1$mrv@duke.telepac.pt> Date: Sat, 21 Jun 1997 00:29:42 GMT Lines: 25 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7199 Paul Vieira (cel@mail.telepac.pt) wrote: : I have a PC ( NT 4.0) with 3 serial ports (each one is connected to a : modem). I made 3 scripts (one for each port) in Kermit 95 to receive : files from the outside. The problem is that I can't run the scripts on : COM1 and COM3 at the same time, because one of the modems will not : work (initialize). I think the problem is related with the IRQ's : ( COM1 and COM3 use the same IRQ). How can I resolve this problem? : Thank you in advance. : Paul Vieira : cel@mail.telepac.pt : This has nothing to do with Kermit... you need to reconfigure the modem on COM3 so it uses some otherwise-unused IRQ (possibly 5), then configure NT so it knows about the hardware change. Fred -- ---- Fred Smith -- fredex@fcshome.stoneham.ma.us -- fred@computrition.com ---- "For him who is able to keep you from falling and to present you before his glorious presence without fault and with great joy--to the only God our Savior be glory, majesty, power and authority, through Jesus Christ our Lord, before all ages, now and forevermore! Amen." ----------------------------- Jude 1:24,25 (niv) ----------------------------- From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Sat Jun 21 08:23:16 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA25103 for ; Sat, 21 Jun 1997 08:23:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA28804 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sat, 21 Jun 1997 08:23:14 -0400 (EDT) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!europa.clark.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!ix.netcom.com!bhuber From: bhuber@netcom.com (Bud Huber) Subject: Re: Problems using Kermit 95 with COM1 and COM3. Message-ID: Organization: Netcom References: <5odrb1$mrv@duke.telepac.pt> <5of0ll$eng$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu> Date: Sat, 21 Jun 1997 10:00:25 GMT Lines: 51 Sender: bhuber@netcom.netcom.com Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7201 In article <5of0ll$eng$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu>, Frank da Cruz wrote: >In article <5odrb1$mrv@duke.telepac.pt>, >Paul Vieira wrote: >: I have a PC ( NT 4.0) with 3 serial ports (each one is connected to a >: modem). I made 3 scripts (one for each port) in Kermit 95 to receive >: files from the outside. The problem is that I can't run the scripts on >: COM1 and COM3 at the same time, because one of the modems will not >: work (initialize). I think the problem is related with the IRQ's >: ( COM1 and COM3 use the same IRQ). How can I resolve this problem? >: >This is a canned reply to all queries regarding the use of MS-DOS Kermit >on Windows 95 and NT, which are coming in at an ever-increasing rate: > >MS-DOS Kermit is not recommended or supported for Windows 95 or NT for the >very good reason that it was not written for those platforms. It can not >make network connections, it does not understand long file names, TAPI >port/modem sharing, and in many cases it cannot find the serial ports or >modems at all. It expects to have full control of your PC: memory, video >adapter, interrupt controller, serial port, network adapter. This is not >possible under Windows 95 and NT. If MS-DOS Kermit works at all in those >environments, it is an accident, it is risky, and it is very likely to run >in a degraded mode. > >Kermit 95 is the recommended and supported software for Windows 95 and NT. >It is fully native, 32-bit, multithread, protected-mode, preemptive >multitasking, using only Windows 32 APIs, and is a 32-bit Winsock client for >completely straightforward network connections that coexist with your Web >browser and all other network applications. It has built-in support for >nearly 60 different modems; it emulates over 25 different terminals; it is >not only a serial communications program but also a Telnet and Rlogin >client, and supports XYZMODEM protocols as well as Kermit file transfer. > >More information about Kermit 95 at: > > http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/k95.html > >- Frank But Frank, The gentleman clearly indicated he was having problems with Kermit 95, not Kermit for DOS. Ciao, Bud -- ----- Bud Huber From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Sat Jun 21 12:21:16 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA26570 for ; Sat, 21 Jun 1997 12:21:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA11450 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sat, 21 Jun 1997 12:21:14 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: ShellExecute() Date: 21 Jun 1997 16:21:02 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 31 Message-ID: <5ogv1e$b5o$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu> References: <33a9fbb4.471671067@news.rochester.ican.net> <33aa9b09.2490401@news.opus1.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7202 In article <33aa9b09.2490401@news.opus1.com>, Erik Hatcher wrote: : Why re-invent the wheel folks??? : : Win95 and WinNT 4.0 both have a way of doing this without writing a : new program. Its the "start" command. : There is no need to continue this thread. The next release of K-95 will have an interface to ShellExecute(). If it works for you, you'll like it. If it doesn't (and experimentation shows that this API is not the panacea that many have made it out to be), you'll still be able to specify a particular browser and get the current behavior. : I tried it by using "start http://www.pvsoftware.com" and it : worked by opening that page in the *already* opened browser (IE 3). : And you can also do this (in any recent K95 version): define URL { run start \v(select) if terminal-macro connect } set mouse button 1 alt drag \Kurl Select a URL with Alt-drag mouse button 1 and there you are. But this, again, begs the question of whether ShellExecute(blah) works for you, where blah is a URL. It does not work for everybody. Believe me. - Frank From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Sat Jun 21 12:34:58 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA00106 for ; Sat, 21 Jun 1997 12:34:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA12217 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sat, 21 Jun 1997 12:34:56 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Problems using Kermit 95 with COM1 and COM3. Date: 21 Jun 1997 16:34:38 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 78 Message-ID: <5ogvqu$btn$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu> References: <5odrb1$mrv@duke.telepac.pt> <5of0ll$eng$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7203 In article , Bud Huber wrote: : In article <5of0ll$eng$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu>, : Frank da Cruz wrote: : >In article <5odrb1$mrv@duke.telepac.pt>, : >Paul Vieira wrote: : >: I have a PC ( NT 4.0) with 3 serial ports (each one is connected to a : >: modem). I made 3 scripts (one for each port) in Kermit 95 to receive : >: files from the outside. The problem is that I can't run the scripts on : >: COM1 and COM3 at the same time, because one of the modems will not : >: work (initialize). I think the problem is related with the IRQ's : >: ( COM1 and COM3 use the same IRQ). How can I resolve this problem? : >: : >This is a canned reply to all queries regarding the use of MS-DOS Kermit : >on Windows 95 and NT, which are coming in at an ever-increasing rate: : : But Frank, : : The gentleman clearly indicated he was having problems with Kermit 95, : not Kermit for DOS. : Oops. It was a bad day -- after the 20th or so question about why MS-DOS Kermit did not work for somebody on COM3 or COM4 under Windows 95 or NT, I started having what they call a "knee jerk reaction" -- sorry. As Paul Vieira pointed out in his reply to the same posting, you have to sort out the COM-port configuration in Windows NT. Most PCs today have more devices than they do interrupts, and so this makes PC configuration an unenviable task, Plug-n-Play notwithstanding. Personally, I do not feel that this should have been the architecture for the next century, but there's not much we can do about that :-) So yes, see if you can find an interrupt (IRQ) number that is not used by any other device, and then see if you can configure your COM3 port to use that interrupt number. And proceed with utmost caution, since a bad choice can wreak havoc on your computer. Here is a brief and not necessarily comprehensive guide to PC interrupt numbers from the MS-DOS Kermit "beware file": 2 Normally available, but some video boards use it to obey an obsolete standard for indicating vertical refresh. Adjust video board jumpers to not do this. On 286's and above, IRQ 2 is also known as IRQ 9: same IRQ, alternate number. 3 Normally COM2 and COM4. PS/2's use IRQ 3 for all serial ports above COM1. IRQ3 is also a favorite "factory default" of many local area network (LAN) adapters. 4 Normally COM1 and informally COM3 (except on PS/2s). 5 Secondary parallel port. Parallel ports are rarely interrupt-driven (except for Novell RPRINTER users) so this IRQ becomes free if you unjumper it on the parallel port board. LAN adapters are often placed on IRQ 5. PC/XTs use IRQ 5 for the hard disk. Careful with this one. 6 Floppy disk drives. Leave it alone! 7 Primary parallel port. Remove as described for IRQ 5. Be careful, LAN adapters are frequently placed here. IRQs higher than 7 are not available on original PCs or PC/XTs, and also might not be selectable on the device itself. 9 Alias for IRQ 2 on PC/AT and above. Don't try to use this one as if it were a unique IRQ. 10 Usually free. 11 Usually free. 12 Used by the IBM bus mouse, otherwise usually free. 13 Math coprocessor errors are trapped here, otherwise frequently free. 14 Used by hard disk on 286 and above. Leave alone! 15 Some SCSI controllers use this. Usually free. - Frank From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Mon Jun 23 19:56:28 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA24901 for ; Mon, 23 Jun 1997 19:56:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA02800 for kermit.misc@watsun; Mon, 23 Jun 1997 19:56:28 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!news.uoregon.edu!hammer.uoregon.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!agate!dog.ee.lbl.gov!news.cs.utah.edu!cc.usu.edu!jrd From: jrd@cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Problems using Kermit 95 with COM1 and COM3. Message-ID: <1997Jun20.213244.99333@cc.usu.edu> Date: 20 Jun 97 21:32:44 MDT References: <5odrb1$mrv@duke.telepac.pt> <5of0ll$eng$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu> Organization: Utah State University Lines: 114 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7205 In article <5of0ll$eng$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu>, fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) writes: > In article <5odrb1$mrv@duke.telepac.pt>, > Paul Vieira wrote: > : I have a PC ( NT 4.0) with 3 serial ports (each one is connected to a > : modem). I made 3 scripts (one for each port) in Kermit 95 to receive > : files from the outside. The problem is that I can't run the scripts on > : COM1 and COM3 at the same time, because one of the modems will not > : work (initialize). I think the problem is related with the IRQ's > : ( COM1 and COM3 use the same IRQ). How can I resolve this problem? > : > This is a canned reply to all queries regarding the use of MS-DOS Kermit > on Windows 95 and NT, which are coming in at an ever-increasing rate: > > MS-DOS Kermit is not recommended or supported for Windows 95 or NT for the > very good reason that it was not written for those platforms. It can not > make network connections, it does not understand long file names, TAPI > port/modem sharing, and in many cases it cannot find the serial ports or > modems at all. It expects to have full control of your PC: memory, video > adapter, interrupt controller, serial port, network adapter. This is not > possible under Windows 95 and NT. If MS-DOS Kermit works at all in those > environments, it is an accident, it is risky, and it is very likely to run > in a degraded mode. ---------- This is a little unusual, so I hope folks understand what I'm saying and why. MS-DOS Kermit, as the name says, is for MS-DOS. That's fine. It also runs in Windows 3 and Windows 95, and OS/2, not by accident, it is not risky, it is not degraded any more than Windows software degrades its own programs, and I will not stand by idly if such phrases are repeated. I wish to take this opportunity to put matters back into context and onto terra firma. In fact MSK runs in both Windows versions in heavy production use at my site and many others. Dyed in the wool advocates of DOS or Windows or whatever may wish to skip to the next message because what concerns us here is working with a mixed environment and not an advocacy of one over the other. As a point of curiosity, Windows itself is an inherently mixed environment, as many people know, and in the end that has worked to our advantage. There are many GUI environments, MS Windows being the most wide spread today. MSK can use serial ports, as much as Windows allows any DOS window application to do so, and where problems arise in almost all cases it is with Windows' handling of the underlying (and faked to MSK) hardware. Similar difficulties face corresponding Windows programs. Alas, this is an imperfect world (insert Windows bomb box or DOS A/R/I message here). MSK runs great over networks. But, and we need to have folks understand this technical point, it does not use winsock (which is a TCP/IP etc stack for pure Windows programs alone). There is an inherent problem here if MSK uses its internal TCP/IP stack while another such stack is loaded and both use the same lan adapter (say Ethernet board). They can't survive unless rather devious and subtile shims are employed to try sorting out the two streams of traffic. There is one for NDIS v3 (protected mode) work written by Dan Lanciani at Harvard, file ndis3pkt.exe a copy of which is in directory drivers on netlab2.usu.edu, but I have not tested it here. Reports on trials would be appreciated. MSK runs naturally over ODI and Packet Drivers. To run that way in Windows we add shim winpkt (in the MSK distribution kit) to do the Windows adaptation. MSK also support many other varieties of networking other than TCP/IP, say LAT for example with appropriate commercial drivers. Naturally, no DOS program can take advantage of the pure Windows only features, say TAPI and sundry. For those features one uses appropriate Windows programs. Similarly, Windows only programs have their limitations. Discussions on how well a GUI operating environment reflects (emulates after interception) the real machine could go on and on, often filled with partial truths and not so accurate assumptions. Generally speaking MS has done quite an interesting job of emulation and it is difficult to discover differences with the real hardware. But differences do exist, as in any mixed environment. One place where Windows gets into trouble is if a DOS program wants to put the video display into say 132 volume mode. Windows may, but often does not, know about the video mode changes on the adapter. If it knows it can put the adapter back in graphics mode, else it puts up a box saying please run in a full screen DOS box. The latter can be better because it is easier to read and lots faster than drawing letter strokes. I might add the same applies to drawing graphics: one is better off in a DOS environment. To forstall pointlessly reopening a well discussed topic may I add a few words on technical support. It costs. Someone spends time and money on the other end of the telephone/fax/email system to think about a problem and compose suggested solutions. Every author wishes it weren't so, but there are bugs now and then, very few to be sure(!), and we want to hear about them in full detail and quickly. After all, bugs also cost you time and money. Long term readers may think back to the many discussions held on the support topic over the years, so I won't repeat them here. What I would like to add, however, is human nature says go to the place where one is listened to, and get any help available. Alas, many times the real problems are not with the product of the outfit being called, and it is only through kindness that answers are provided. That's expensive when one comes right down to it at the end of each month. Many companies cannot afford to bother being nice to even legit customer questions. Well, the Kermit project can't afford the expense either, and assistance comes out of the hides of the project members. So I would ask readers to be selective about what they ask for when difficulties arise, and help relieve the burden on a very slimly financed operation so that the creative people can continue with the creative work. Please try regular Windows NEWS groups if the problem appears to be the run of the mill Windows troubles. Please try here in this Kermit-specific NEWS group when Kermit(s) themselves are the real doubtful item. Similarly, run of the mill machine setup/configuration/etc questions are better asked of your colleagues and friends as well as the many PC-specific NEWS groups. There are many readers in this group who are willing and able to resolve Kermit questions, and we need their help. We have created some first rate user's manuals in the form of the "Using ... Kermit" books, which are for sale and hence help underwrite operating expenses. Think of it as voting with your pocketbook, and of multiplying that vote by not consuming time of the project unnecessarily. Those books are the front rank of Tech Support tools, and I think they more than earn back their cost through saving time and human wear and tear. They also open opportunities for neat things to do. I think we make progress if one remembers that DOS and Windows are different in many ways, yet very similar in others beneath the covers, so that DOS programs are quite usable in GUI windows in a many cases, and more effective than Windows programs in some cases. As stated at the beginning, this is a mixed environment with compromises at every turn. Please use what best suits the situation at hand. What better advice can one give? Joe D. From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Tue Jun 24 08:54:08 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA04391 for ; Tue, 24 Jun 1997 08:54:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA12143 for kermit.misc@watsun; Tue, 24 Jun 1997 08:54:07 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <33AF9971.50FB@christcom.net> Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997 05:54:57 -0400 From: msolo Reply-To: msolo@christcom.net Organization: Solomon Consulting Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Kermit 95 problems Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 166.72.77.241 Lines: 20 Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsm.ibm.net!ibm.net!news1.ibm.net!166.72.77.241 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7208 I am having a problem setting up my modem in Kermit 95. I would appreciate any help. Here's the deal: I have Win 95, Kermit 95 1.1.12, and a SupraExpress 288 external modem. I am trying to dial a Xyplex terminal server to gain access to a Unix machine. If I use the kermit dialer (with regular or tapi device), I connect and everything looks good, but about 15-20 seconds into the session the carrier drops. The problem seems to be that the Xyplex machine only works at 9600. If I change the baud rate to 9600 in kermit, I get no response from the modem, but if I leave it at 28800 or higher, I get the carrier drop problem. One last thing, when I connect directly to the modem and manually dial, everything is OK. (And all other sites I call are OK using the dialer). Again, I would appreciate any help out there. -Michael Solomon msolo@christcom.net From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Tue Jun 24 08:54:08 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA04394 for ; Tue, 24 Jun 1997 08:54:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA12145 for kermit.misc@watsun; Tue, 24 Jun 1997 08:54:07 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <33AF993A.46A6@christcom.net> Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997 05:54:02 -0400 From: msolo Reply-To: msolo@christcom.net Organization: Solomon Consulting Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Kermit 95 problems Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 166.72.77.241 Lines: 20 Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!europa.clark.net!feed1.news.erols.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!newsm.ibm.net!ibm.net!news1.ibm.net!166.72.77.241 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7209 I am having a problem setting up my modem in Kermit 95. I would appreciate any help. Here's the deal: I have Win 95, Kermit 95 1.1.12, and a SupraExpress 288 external modem. I am trying to dial a Xyplex terminal server to gain access to a Unix machine. If I use the kermit dialer (with regular or tapi device), I connect and everything looks good, but about 15-20 seconds into the session the carrier drops. The problem seems to be that the Xyplex machine only works at 9600. If I change the baud rate to 9600 in kermit, I get no response from the modem, but if I leave it at 28800 or higher, I get the carrier drop problem. One last thing, when I connect directly to the modem and manually dial, everything is OK. (And all other sites I call are OK using the dialer). Again, I would appreciate any help out there. -Michael Solomon msolo@christcom.net From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Tue Jun 24 11:15:12 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA28601 for ; Tue, 24 Jun 1997 11:15:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA20821 for kermit.misc@watsun; Tue, 24 Jun 1997 11:15:11 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Kermit 95 problems Date: 24 Jun 1997 15:15:11 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 49 Message-ID: <5ooo9v$kaj$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu> References: <33AF993A.46A6@christcom.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7210 In article <33AF993A.46A6@christcom.net>, msolo wrote: : I am having a problem setting up my modem in Kermit 95. I would : appreciate any help. Here's the deal: I have Win 95, Kermit 95 1.1.12, : and a SupraExpress 288 external modem. : : I am trying to dial a Xyplex terminal server to gain access to a Unix : machine. If I use the kermit dialer (with regular or tapi device), I : connect and everything looks good... : So you see legible text from the other side -- login prompt, etc? And you can send text (user ID, whatever)? : but about 15-20 seconds into the session the carrier drops. : This usually means something happened outside of your PC: the phone connection hung up, the other modem stopped broadcasting carrier, etc. : The problem seems to be that the Xyplex : machine only works at 9600. : If the first 15-20 seconds of the session are good, then it's not a speed mismatch. : If I change the baud rate to 9600 in kermit, I get no response from the : modem, but if I leave it at 28800 or higher, I get the carrier drop : problem. : If you get no response from the modem at 9600, this could mean it has its baud rate fixed at a certain speed and "autobaud" (automatic speed recognition) has been disabled. Check your modem manual for command (usually something like N0 or N1) to enable all speeds and protocols and negotiate the highest common one. : One last thing, when I connect directly to the modem and manually dial, : everything is OK. (And all other sites I call are OK using the dialer). : And how do you dial manually? Do you give any configuration commands? Are they different from the ones Kermit or TAPI give? In that case, just use SET MODEM COMMAND to tell K95 to use the same commands you use when you dial manually. In any case, the finger points rather emphatically at the configuration of the modem on the other end of this connection. As you know, modern modems have lots of configuration options, many of them designed to get around bugs, limitations, or misconfugration in the modems they are connecting with. Adjust your own modem as needed, and see if you can get the owner of the other modem to check its configuration. - Frank From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Tue Jun 24 17:20:41 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA13719 for ; Tue, 24 Jun 1997 17:20:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA14950 for kermit.misc@watsun; Tue, 24 Jun 1997 17:20:40 -0400 (EDT) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Path: news.columbia.edu!news.cs.columbia.edu!psinntp!howland.erols.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.new-york.net!nonexistent.com!not-for-mail From: "System Manager" Subject: Divide Overflow X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1160 X-Complaints-To: Email abuse@news2.new-york.net if this posting is inappropriate Organization: Elias Sports Bureau, Inc. Message-ID: X-Trace: 867075928 22859 (None) [204.141.38.201] X-Nntp-Posting-Host: jpage.esb.com Date: Mon, 23 Jun 1997 14:25:29 GMT Lines: 13 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7211 Hi, We occasionally receive the "divide overflow" error when starting ms-dos kermit v.3.13 and v.3.14 in Windows 95. I realize that there is a Kermit for Windows 95, since we also use that. But we have some rather involved scripts that work best under the dos based kermits. I was just curious as to what this error means and if it is anything I should worry about. Usually we just reboot the laptop and the error goes away. Thanks for your help Chris Christopher Slowik / Slowik@esb.com From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Tue Jun 24 17:47:34 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA20066 for ; Tue, 24 Jun 1997 17:47:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA17100 for kermit.misc@watsun; Tue, 24 Jun 1997 17:47:32 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Announcing Kermit 95 1.1.13 for Windows 95, Windows NT, and OS/2 Date: 24 Jun 1997 21:47:30 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 41 Message-ID: <5opf9i$gm8$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7212 Kermit 95 1.1.13 is now available as a patch to previous Kermit 95 releases for Windows 95, Windows NT, and OS/2. This patch fixes a few minor bugs in the recently-announced 1.1.12, and adds: . DDE messages to Web browsers and other apps (Windows only) . DEC PATHWORKS support for Windows (OS/2 already had it) . Bidirectional printer ports . Array initializers The first item provides a way for URL hotspots (added in 1.1.12) to invoke your currently loaded browser, rather than always starting a new copy, and also to invoke other applications by Ctrl-clicking on filenames, etc. This works only in Windows 95 and NT systems that have all the right Microsoft DLLs, and so is not the default; to use this feature, read section 3.12 of DOCS\UPDATES.DOC. All the bugs that were reported in 1.1.12 are fixed. HOW TO GET IT Kermit 95 1.1.13 is available as a patch to version 1.1.12 or earlier. Current registered users of Kermit 95 can download the 1.1.13 upgrade patch from our BBS or from our Web site: http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/k95patch.html or with ftp: ftp://kermit.columbia.edu/kermit/k95/patches/ All the new features are documented in the updated UPDATES.TXT file that comes in the patch, and the bug fixes are detailed in the updated BUGS.TXT file. Please send reports of any difficulty with the patches by email to: kermit-support@columbia.edu Frank da Cruz The Kermit Project Columbia University From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Tue Jun 24 18:14:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA24115 for ; Tue, 24 Jun 1997 18:14:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA18575 for kermit.misc@watsun; Tue, 24 Jun 1997 18:14:05 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!howland.erols.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news-in-east.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!207.170.196.61!svr1.gstis.net!news From: Brett Hunsaker Newsgroups: comp.os.lynx,comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Availability of C-Kermit 6 for LynxOS Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997 15:07:34 -0700 Organization: GST Telecom, Inc. Lines: 2 Message-ID: <33B04526.6C8F@gstworld.net.nospam> NNTP-Posting-Host: mail2.gstworld.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (WinNT; I) Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.os.lynx:3220 comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7213 I am currently using C-Kermit, 4C(058) 19 Mar 86 under LynxOS. Is any newer version available? From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Tue Jun 24 18:26:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA26150 for ; Tue, 24 Jun 1997 18:26:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA19265 for kermit.misc@watsun; Tue, 24 Jun 1997 18:26:05 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.os.lynx,comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Availability of C-Kermit 6 for LynxOS Date: 24 Jun 1997 22:26:02 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 16 Message-ID: <5ophhq$ipv$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu> References: <33B04526.6C8F@gstworld.net.nospam> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.os.lynx:3221 comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7214 In article <33B04526.6C8F@gstworld.net.nospam>, Brett Hunsaker wrote: : I am currently using C-Kermit, 4C(058) 19 Mar 86 under LynxOS. Is any : newer version available? : Yes, C-Kermit 6.0 of November 1996 (10.66 years of development since you last looked :-) Complete info at: http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/ck60.html We don't have a binary for LynxOS so I hope you have a C compiler so you'll need to get the source code. Assuming you are running LynxOS 2.2 or later, use "make lynx". If you do make a new binary, please let me know so we can add it to our large and ever-growing collection of C-Kermit binaries. - Frank From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Tue Jun 24 18:35:53 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA29338 for ; Tue, 24 Jun 1997 18:35:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA19929 for kermit.misc@watsun; Tue, 24 Jun 1997 18:35:51 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!news.indiana.edu!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!ais.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news-in-east.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!199.3.12.173!newsfeed.concentric.net!news-master!news From: "Trey Thompson" Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: ckepage.ksc Date: 24 Jun 1997 19:15:24 GMT Organization: CITGO Petroleum Corporation Lines: 15 Message-ID: <01bc80d2$f7bd5840$5983adce@Trey.tulsa.citgo.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ts004d05.tul-ok.concentric.net X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1161 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7215 I just downloaded the latest kermit and built it for aix3.2.5 - when I try to "take" the script, I get an error message that a "line is too long or contains a null character". When I comment out this line: asg block \%m\fchar(\fmod(\%s/256,16)+48)- \fchar(\fmod(\%s/16,16)+48)- \fchar(\fmod(\%s,16)+48)\13 ; Checksummed TAP block it "takes" just fine. I tried deleting the comment to shorten the line and I tried concatenating all three parts into one line but I still get the error message. I would appreciate any helpful hints! Trey Thompson Trey.Thompson@citgo.com From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Tue Jun 24 18:41:25 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA00168 for ; Tue, 24 Jun 1997 18:41:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA20214 for kermit.misc@watsun; Tue, 24 Jun 1997 18:41:24 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: ckepage.ksc Date: 24 Jun 1997 22:41:21 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 28 Message-ID: <5opieh$jnj$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu> References: <01bc80d2$f7bd5840$5983adce@Trey.tulsa.citgo.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7216 In article <01bc80d2$f7bd5840$5983adce@Trey.tulsa.citgo.com>, Trey Thompson wrote: : I just downloaded the latest kermit and built it for aix3.2.5 - when I try : to "take" the script, I get an error message that a "line is too long or : contains a null character". When I comment out this line: : asg block \%m\fchar(\fmod(\%s/256,16)+48)- : \fchar(\fmod(\%s/16,16)+48)- : \fchar(\fmod(\%s,16)+48)\13 ; Checksummed TAP block : : it "takes" just fine. : Yes, but then it won't work. : I tried deleting the comment to shorten the line and I tried : concatenating all three parts into one line but I still get the : error message. : The TAPMSG macro definition is a tad too long for the command buffer in the default AIX C-Kermit build. Go to your C-Kermit source directory and: make clean make rs6aix32c KFLAGS=-DBIGBUFOK In the next release, all RS/6000 and PowerPC AIX versions will be built with big buffers by default. - Frank From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Wed Jun 25 01:44:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA28890 for ; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 01:44:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA15531 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 01:44:05 -0400 (EDT) Newsgroups: comp.os.lynx,comp.protocols.kermit.misc Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!enews.sgi.com!news.sgi.com!wattres!steve From: steve@Watt.COM (Steve Watt -- KD6GGD) Subject: Re: Availability of C-Kermit 6 for LynxOS Message-ID: Organization: Watt Consultants, San Jose, CA, USA Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 04:47:04 GMT References: <33B04526.6C8F@gstworld.net.nospam> Lines: 15 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.os.lynx:3222 comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7217 In article <33B04526.6C8F@gstworld.net.nospam>, Brett Hunsaker wrote: >I am currently using C-Kermit, 4C(058) 19 Mar 86 under LynxOS. Is any >newer version available? You can get a more current one from Columbia University, http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/ The reason that 4C is shipped with LynxOS is that it's very nearly the last version that was freely distributable. Since then, the licensing terms have changed so that vendors may not include kermit in products. -- Steve Watt KD6GGD PP-ASEL-IA Packet: KD6GGD @ N0ARY.#NOCAL.CA.USA.NA ICBM: 121W 56' 58.1" / 37N 20' 14.2" Internet: steve @ Watt.COM Free time? There's no such thing. It just comes in varying prices... From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Wed Jun 25 08:14:27 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA06627 for ; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 08:14:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA22369 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 08:14:26 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!news.msfc.nasa.gov!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cs.utexas.edu!news.cs.utah.edu!cc.usu.edu!jrd From: jrd@cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Divide Overflow Message-ID: <1997Jun23.201444.99376@cc.usu.edu> Date: 23 Jun 97 20:14:44 MDT References: Organization: Utah State University Lines: 29 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7218 In article , "System Manager" writes: > Hi, > > We occasionally receive the "divide overflow" error when starting ms-dos > kermit v.3.13 and v.3.14 in Windows 95. I realize that there is a Kermit > for Windows 95, since we also use that. But we have some rather involved > scripts that work best under the dos based kermits. I was just curious as > to what this error means and if it is anything I should worry about. > Usually we just reboot the laptop and the error goes away. Thanks for your > help > > Chris > > Christopher Slowik / Slowik@esb.com ------------- That should not happen with MSK 3.14, so please check the version. It can happen with MSK 3.13 on machines much faster than existed when v3.13 was written. Also, please remember that MSK 3.13/4 will try to use memory above 1MB as expanded memory. Thus the location of the EMS page frame needs to be controlled by the user as a memory management chore (not a Kermit one). Lacking EMS conventional memory is used. MSK 3.15 beta permits extended memory as an option (no EMS needed in that case, but EMS is faster). To see if memory management might be the problem put this line in autoexec.bat: set kermit roll=0 which will not create the terminal emulation screen rollback buffer. It is a user of these memory areas. Beyond this we would need information about your system configuration. Joe D. From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Wed Jun 25 10:08:27 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA24635 for ; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 10:08:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA28984 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 10:08:26 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.os.lynx,comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Availability of C-Kermit 6 for LynxOS Date: 25 Jun 1997 14:08:25 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 31 Message-ID: <5or8op$s9m$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu> References: <33B04526.6C8F@gstworld.net.nospam> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.os.lynx:3223 comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7219 In article , Steve Watt -- KD6GGD wrote: : In article <33B04526.6C8F@gstworld.net.nospam>, : Brett Hunsaker wrote: : >I am currently using C-Kermit, 4C(058) 19 Mar 86 under LynxOS. Is any : >newer version available? : : You can get a more current one from Columbia University, : http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/ : : The reason that 4C is shipped with LynxOS is that it's very nearly the : last version that was freely distributable. Since then, the licensing : terms have changed so that vendors may not include kermit in products. : If the LynxOS company would let me give away their products to my users, maybe I'd have some sympathy for that position. Vendors may not include Kermit software in their products without permission. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Did they bother to ask? No. So what is the result? Their customers have an ancient version of Kermit and and we get the tech support burden. Who wins? Nobody. Contrast with (for example) Hewlett Packard. They ship an up-to-date and fully supported version of C-Kermit with each HP-UX release. Everybody is happy. Lynx customers should encourage the company to do the right thing: either make an honorable agreement with us to distribute our software, or else stop doing it. - Frank From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Thu Jun 26 07:40:46 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA16367 for ; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 07:40:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA20460 for kermit.misc@watsun; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 07:40:45 -0400 (EDT) Newsgroups: comp.os.lynx,comp.protocols.kermit.misc Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.eecs.umich.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!uucp2.uu.net!bast!wattres!steve From: steve@Watt.COM (Steve Watt -- KD6GGD) Subject: Re: Availability of C-Kermit 6 for LynxOS Message-ID: Organization: Watt Consultants, San Jose, CA, USA Date: Thu, 26 Jun 1997 11:08:10 GMT References: <33B04526.6C8F@gstworld.net.nospam> <5or8op$s9m$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu> Followup-To: poster Lines: 68 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.os.lynx:3225 comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7222 [ Followups to me -- I get the feeling this could get nasty(ier?) for some reason. ] [ Caution: It's 4am, so this might sound flame-ish. Wish I could sleep. ] In article <5or8op$s9m$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu>, Frank da Cruz wrote: >In article , Steve Watt -- KD6GGD wrote: >: In article <33B04526.6C8F@gstworld.net.nospam>, >: Brett Hunsaker wrote: bhunsaker> [ using old C-Kermit 4C(058) on LynxOS, wants newer ] steve> You can get a more current one from Columbia University steve> The reason that 4C is shipped with LynxOS is that it's very nearly the steve> last version that was freely distributable. Since then, the licensing steve> terms have changed so that vendors may not include kermit in products. fdc> If the LynxOS company would let me give away their products to my users, fdc> maybe I'd have some sympathy for that position. I suspect it could be arranged for you to give away LynxOS 1.0. I'm not sure you *could*, though. I think it only ran on a proprietary board. ;) [ deletia ] fdc> Lynx customers should encourage the company to do the right thing: either fdc> make an honorable agreement with us to distribute our software, or else stop fdc> doing it. A few points: 1. As far as I know, you cannot retroactively change the licensing of a piece of software, which is your implication of "an honorable agreement" -- there is no agreement required for the version that Lynx is shipping. I quote from ckcmai.c, 4C(058) 19 Mar 86: /* Copyright (C) 1985, Trustees of Columbia University in the City of New York. Permission is granted to any individual or institution to use, copy, or redistribute this software so long as it is not sold for profit, provided this copyright notice is retained. */ (Fortunately, I know that Lynx' legal folks don't read USENET -- your implication of that distribution as being less than honorable is almost certainly libelous.) 2. When I queried about this, I was told that the legal department had contacted Columbia and found the terms of distribution for the new versions unacceptable, but I don't know the details. What are the commercial terms? Is there a licensing fee of some sort? If not, I suspect that decision can be revisited, since there's been 100% turnover in the legal department since then. Lynx is a fairly small company, so if there is a significant licensing fee, I'd expect the current practice to continue. Or if you wish (and can provide some manner of active discouragement, like a sentence somewhere that makes my point 1 false), I suspect distribution could be stopped entirely. Active discouragement may not even be needed; asking works. 3. I suppose, to some extent, it's telling of the high quality of the old version (not to impugn the newer ones) that this is the first time *I've* heard someone ask for the new version. Or else this is the first time someone's wanted it that didn't know where to find it. Either way, C-Kermit is a *great* piece of work. -- Steve Watt KD6GGD PP-ASEL-IA Packet: KD6GGD @ N0ARY.#NOCAL.CA.USA.NA ICBM: 121W 56' 58.1" / 37N 20' 14.2" Internet: steve @ Watt.COM Free time? There's no such thing. It just comes in varying prices... From news@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu Thu Jun 26 11:54:55 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA05590 for ; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 11:54:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA05342 for kermit.misc@watsun; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 11:54:53 -0400 (EDT) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.os.lynx,comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Availability of C-Kermit 6 for LynxOS Date: 26 Jun 1997 15:54:51 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 83 Message-ID: <5ou3cb$56s$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu> References: <33B04526.6C8F@gstworld.net.nospam> <5or8op$s9m$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.os.lynx:3226 comp.protocols.kermit.misc:7223 In article , Steve Watt -- KD6GGD wrote: : [ Followups to me -- I get the feeling this could get nasty(ier?) for some : reason. ] : : [ Caution: It's 4am, so this might sound flame-ish. Wish I could sleep. ] : : In article <5or8op$s9m$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu>, : Frank da Cruz wrote: : >In article , Steve Watt -- KD6GGD wrote: : >: In article <33B04526.6C8F@gstworld.net.nospam>, : >: Brett Hunsaker wrote: : bhunsaker> [ using old C-Kermit 4C(058) on LynxOS, wants newer ] : : steve> You can get a more current one from Columbia University : steve> The reason that 4C is shipped with LynxOS is that it's very nearly the : steve> last version that was freely distributable. Since then, the licensing : steve> terms have changed so that vendors may not include kermit in products. : : fdc> If the LynxOS company would let me give away their products to my users, : fdc> maybe I'd have some sympathy for that position. : : I suspect it could be arranged for you to give away LynxOS 1.0. I'm not : sure you *could*, though. I think it only ran on a proprietary board. ;) : It's not a fair analogy. Suppose I gave away the oldest version of LynxOS that ran on a PC platform. A version containing all sorts of bugs and limitations which they had, through years of hard work, long since fixed and overcome. All of my users, installing this wonderful free OS, would soon encounter all the bugs and limitations, and wonder to themselves, "So what's the big deal about LynxOS? It seems vastly overrated." They would would develop a very poor opinion of Lynx indeed, and would no doubt complain mightily to Lynx and in the newsgroups, etc, thus making more work for Lynx, with no commensurate income, and damaging its reputation. : [ deletia ] : fdc> Lynx customers should encourage the company to do the right thing: : fdc> either make an honorable agreement with us to distribute our software, : fdc> or else stop doing it. : : A few points: : : 1. As far as I know, you cannot retroactively change the licensing of a : piece of software, which is your implication of "an honorable agreement" : -- there is no agreement required for the version that Lynx is shipping. : Nobody is retroactively changing anything. Lynx is distributing an 11+ year old software package produced and copyrighted by us, against our wishes. Therefore Lynx should respect our wishes -- that's what I meant by "honorable". When you (generic "you") distribute our software, it affects us in real life. Your users call us with problems, and/or they draw false conclusions from this old version, believing it to be the latest one. Kermit protocol and software has come a long way since 1986 because real people worked on it all that time. : 2. When I queried about this, I was told that the legal department had : contacted Columbia and found the terms of distribution for the new : versions unacceptable, but I don't know the details. : I don't recall any communication with Lynx, but I would be glad to speak with them, even at this late date. : Active discouragement may not even be needed; asking works. : Both ways. It should not have to be our job to seek out every company that is doing this and ask them to stop. It is a matter of common courtesy to ask the copyright holder for permission to distribute. Obviously this is a sore point with me. The Kermit Project used to be funded to produce free software. Then the funded ceased. Thus the change in terms. But the real issue is: you (generic) can not expect other people to work for you without pay and under whatever conditions you make up. Sometimes this sort of arrangement works for short periods (e.g. students who live to hack, but then must go get a real job), but long-term arrangements must have a more solid base. If Lynx is is a company that is distributing our software with its product, it must believe there is some financial benefit for doing so. If it believes this, then it is also to their benefit to work with us and not against us. If it does not believe it, then it should not distribute our software, because that is the wish of the real people who did the work and who are affected by it. - Frank