a dialogue on determinism?

I'd like to find intelligent discussions of determinism, and discuss the issue myself. But I never find anything, and I always end up keeping to myself. Sure there are (psychological) reasons why important things are ignored. This is one hell of an elephant, though. An absurd one, but are you calling all of this normal?

- now I do recall how law is one of the few places that plays with this. They like to take teeny bites, as if just a wee bit won't hurt. As far as your legal theories go, guys, with that bite you've already lost the whole house.