Mendele: Yiddish literature and language ______________________________________________________ Contents of Vol. 1 no. 77 October 3, 1991 1) P'cha (Sholem-Ruveyn Benjamin) 2) Tshuves (David Sherman) 1)---------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 03 Oct 91 00:42:05 EDT From: sbenj@Athena.MIT.EDU Subject: RE: Yiddishe Makholim OK Chef Noyekh, you have my attention... Now how about a nice bowl of p'cha and a glass of cold schav? P'cha is much easier to consume than to spell I fear...... Sholem Ruveyn [Mendele assumes that in this case the schav will be drunk without smetana.] 2)---------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 3 Oct 91 5:19:22 EDT From: David Sherman Subject: RE: Mendele Vol 1.74 > That's one question. Another has to do with food and the > Jewish calendar. How come Shevuos is milkhik? And how > come Sukkes alone doesn't have food of its own (only rain)? Well, you can eat the esrog after Hoshana Rabba, or make jam out of it... As for milchiks on Shevuos, Kitov (The Book Of Our Heritage, Volume III, pp. 72-73) gives the following four reasons: ************************ 1. Shavuot is an extension of Pesach and its conclusion. Just as we eat two cooked dishes on Pesach in memory of the Paschal-Lamb and the Chagigah offering of Pesach, we likewise eat two cooked foods Shavuot; one a milk dish, and the other a meat disk. Since one may not eat from the same loaf of bread with both meat and milk dishes, this customs is also a memorial of the two breads brought on Shavuot. (Rama) 2. The day when Moshe was drawn out of the water was the 6th of Sivan, and he was willing to be nursed only by a Hebrew woman. Therefore we recall the merit of his, through eating of milk foods on the same day. (Sefer Matamim) 3. Till the giving of the Torah, the Jews were permitted to eat meat of animals which were not kosher as well as meat of animals that had not been slaughtered in accord with the laws of shechitah. After the giving of the Torah, shechitah and the laws of forbidden foods were prescribed for them. Since all their utensils and dishes thereby became prohibited and they were unable to make them kosher, they could only eat milk foods. (Ge'ulat Israel) 4. The numerical value of the Hebrew letters which constitute the Hebrew for "milk", chalav, add up to forty, corresponding to the forty days spent by Moshe on Mount Sinai. (Rabbi Shimshon of Ostropol) ************************ Does anyone know of other reasons/rationalizations? > But the big one is a comprehensive list of dishes with > their regional variants. Mordkhe Shechter is currently working on a 2nd edition of his dictionary (English->Yiddish only, I believe) of terms relating to food and eating. (The first edition was mimeographed rather than published, I believe; I saw it once, a couple of years ago.) I believe he's hoping to have it out within the next few months. Mordkhe can be reached at the Yidish-Lige, 212-787-6675. Perhaps whatever we come up with on MENDELE will be forwarded to him? ______________________________________________________ End of Mendele Vol 1.77