Mendele: Yiddish literature and language ______________________________________________________ Contents of Vol. 1 no. 186 March 2, 1992 1) "Bundist" schools (Mark H. David) 2) Yiddish in Lotusland (Ellen Prince) 3) Introduction (Lisa Leah Darginsky) 4) Rabonishe etymologyes (Yude-Leyb Proger) 5) A bakoshe (Dovid Braun) 1)---------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 25 Feb 92 13:26:38 EST From: gensym!mhd@harvard.harvard.edu Subject: (Generically) "Bundist" Schools The Arbeter Ring (i.e., Workmen's Circle) schools in America were patterned after the Bund schools of Europe. Joseph Mlotek, who belongs to the Bund, went to Bund schools in Europe, and was Educational Director of the Workmen's Circle for many years, told me this in an interview. Many of us here, I believe, did indeed attend Arbeter Ring schools. So, I could accept the logic of calling both the European Bundist schools and the American Arbeter Ring schools generically "Bundist". Doesn't seem like too big a deal. Mark H. David 2)---------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 25 Feb 92 17:52:05 EST From: "Ellen F. Prince" Subject: fyi just in case mendele's readers from abroad didn't believe me that 'Enjoy!' is all over the country, here's a datum from the Linguist bulletin board today: ------- Forwarded Message Date: Sat, 22 Feb 92 10:33:04 -0800 From: tshannon@garnet.berkeley.edu Subject: Re: 3.137 Queries: Like, Swahili/Yoruba, ESL ... As they say out here (and elsewhere???): "Enjoy!" ------- End of Forwarded Message see? it's so well entrenched in berkeley that he's not even sure it's used *elsewhere*. (and berkeley is definitely not in the yinglish zone...) Ellen Prince 3)---------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 26 Feb 92 02:10:21 EST From: lldar@mvax.cc.conncoll.edu Subject: Introduction Dear Noyekh, Shalom colanu! I am a sophomore here at Connecticut College double majoring in Psychology and Judaic & Israeli Studies. As a Jew, a student, and a curious individual, I am interested in hearing about the views of others concerning Judaism, Zionism, Israel, American Jews, Jewish Americans, etc. Sincerely, Lisa Leah Darginsky 4)---------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 28 Feb 92 00:57:19 IST From: yude-leyb Subject: rabonishe etimologyes Meylekh V.: You splendidly illustrate what has long been known in the Yiddish linguistic literature as _rabonishe etimologyes_. These ingenious construction s are of purely homiletic value. If what is regarded as a religious truth can be elicited from word-play, then for the believer an occult "source" has been uncovered (or better, created). But this is different from ordinary folk or "naive" etymologizing. A good instance of the latter is Israeli Hebrew _frayer_ (from Y. _frayer_ < Polish _frajer_ 'gull'). The meaning in IH is 'gull', but some Israelis believe it is from Y. _frayer_ 'irreligious'. Rafael Sapan, in his _Milon slang hayisraeli_ (Y-m: Kiryat-sefer, 1966, p. 57) even gives 'porek ol' as a second sense besides the primary one of 'tam'. He then adds regarding this second sense that it arose due to a misunder- standing of the Yiddish word. In ordinary usage folk etymology means naive or mistaken etymology, although there are surely traditional "folk" explanation s of origins of names and words which merit serious attention. Yude-Leyb Proger 5)---------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 01 Mar 92 14:32:51 EST From: David Braun Subject: e-mail Readers of Mendele (outside of English-speaking countries), Would you please send me (or Mendele) the names for _e-mail_ and _answering machine_ in your respective countries/languages? Much appreciated. Dovid Braun (braund@linc.cis.upenn.edu) ______________________________________________________ End of Mendele Vol 1.186