Mendele: Yiddish literature and language
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Contents of Vol. 2 no. 173
April 2, 1993
 
1) Vos shtet bay Harkavien (Elyet Hersh Gertl)
2) Tipesh (Dan Breslauer)

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Date: 01 Apr 1993 21:03:24 -0800 (PST)
From: EGERTEL@FULLERTON.EDU
Subject: Vos shtet bay Harkavien

Dovid Braun shraybt (2:171)
>ba harkavi (dukht zikh 1928, nor kh'hob nit dos
>verterbikhl ba der hant) figurirt dutsn untern vort
>_duken_.

S'iz gor a tshikaver variant nor in Yivo/Shokens iberdruk
fun der tsveyter fargreserter oyflage fun Harkavis barimntn
YIDISH-ENGLISH-HEBREISHER VERTERBUKH fun 1928 gefin ikh
nisht aza zukhvort.  Af z'165 ze ikh bloyz di zukhverter
lebn ort vu me volt gedarft gefinen dos vort DUKEN:

        DUTSN v.a. to address with "thou"  dabeyr l'ish
        b'lshon nokhah yakhid.
        DAK = dav [un dernokh dem a shtumer alef]
	DUKAT s. (pl. -n) (gold coin) ducat  adum (mtbe zhv).
        DUKES = dukes. [un az me kukt af "dukes" {mit a
                segol unter a kof} iz der optaytsh "duke"]
        DOR ...

Efsher hot ir es dos "duken" gezen in an anderer oyflage
oder ergets andersh? S'volt geven interesant az me volt es
ergets yo gekent gefinen.  Interesant iz es oykh vi azoy
Harkavi hot ibergezetst DUTSN nitstndik dem arkhayizm
"thou." Kh'vintsh ale Mendelnikes mit di meshpokhes a
freylekhn, koshern peysekh,

Elyet Hersh Gertl

PS: In 1928 ken zayn az "thou" iz nisht geven nokh in
gantsn an arkhayizm nor s'iz say vi tshikave vi Harkavi hot
ibergezetst "dutsn."  EHG

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Date: 02 Apr 1993 07:04:43 -0600 (CST)
From: Dan Breslauer <BRESDAN%UKANVAX.bitnet@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu>
Subject: Tipesh

On the question of "Tipesh" and "After Bialik" does anyone
know where Bialik says this?  I don't recall it from either
his essays or his poems, but it might be in his stories or
his yiddish writings.

Dan Breslauer, University of Kansas

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