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Isn't it a big money-maker, too?

Oh, enormous.

It all started with Louise coming over. She had some good juveniles on the list, but particularly Babar the Elephant. Incidentally, they were translated from the French by Robert Haas‘wife, Merle, a very lovely woman.

The illustrations for Babar were just terrific. I can still remember them. I just loved that book as a child.

We had another wonderful juvenile at the time by a professor named Mabel Robinson at Columbia, called Bright Island, which every kid read. It was a great success.

But the juvenile department just went along slowly.

Well, you personally weren't terribly interested in it, were you?

I wasn't for awhile and then my kids started growing up. Then came that wonderful summer when we started Landmark Books. Have I told you that story?

No. Not at all.

All right. I had better get into the Phyllis story then.