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Q:

Have you ever seen him since that?

Cerf:

Oh, sure. We have a score of mutual friends. Everyone loves Irwin Shaw; and when he comes here, parties are given for him. He's a great addition to a party. At first I was very stiff with him, but Phyllis said, “What the hell. You're acting like a child. You didn't care about the book. Only your vanity has been affected.” That was quite true! He wasn't the friend that I thought he was!

Q:

Don't you think also...another thing that I've often heard publishers say...they will spend money and time with an author in the beginning.

Cerf:

And then they get used to him. They take them for granted.

Q:

They take them for granted, but not only that. As soon as the author becomes successful, what happens? He then forgets all of the kindness when he needed it, the money when he needed it.

Cerf:

Oh, the author. I thought that you were blaming the publisher there.

Irwin said that we took him for granted. I know Irwin. Like all other authors, he's jealous of all other authors, particularly his close friends; and this was a time that we





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