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that sent this country, I'm convinced, into all of this mess in Vietnam. I think that in future years this period we're living in now will be looked upon as a low point in our history.

Now, you are also a friend of Governor Harriman. I know that there was a house party that you attended...oh, way before your marriage, up at Arden House. I was wondering if you wanted to discuss him at all.

I came to know Averell Harriman through his wife Marie. When she was young, Marie was one of the most beautiful girls in the United States of America. In fact, when she first married Sonny Whitney, who was a playboy and who at the time that Marie became engaged to him was mixed up in some affair with a dancer from a show called Rosemarie, Marie's mother got hundreds of letters from people saying, “How can you let this beautiful child of yours marry this roué Sonny Whitney?”

As a matter of fact, the mother of Marie Harriman went to school with my mother. My family remembered always that she had said that when she had a daughter, her daughter was going to get into society and was going to be a big-shot. By golly, she made it. The first daughter, Frankie Norton, was a lovely girl but not as beautiful as the second one. When Marie came along, this stunning girl, it was obvious that she was going to fulfill all of her mother's ambitions.

After Sonny Whitney and Marie were divorced, she met Averell Harriman. He, at this time, was a dashing polo player