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would ever vote for a Democrat would be like today joining the Communist Party.

But we moved--and this was the beginning of things-- just about the time I graduated from public school, which was in 1911. We moved uptown, up to Riverside Drive and 157th Street to a great big apartment house called The Riviera. It had just been built, and I remember we were on the 12th floor. We looked out right over Audubon Park on the Hudson River. Here was where I would say my life really began. The days when I was a little boy in public school I remember with pleasure, but the beginnings of my real life started when I moved up here.

I just want to go back one moment. Are there any teachers that you remember at P.S. 10?

Oh, I can tell you the entire faculty.

I mean when you think of what came out of that school it's amazing. There must have been something or some influence around there that these people could break out.

I'll tell you a little bit about this.

I think it's interesting to bring in as history of the times, too.