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treated him to lunch. We both remember to this day we ate lunch at a place called Lauber's at 39th Street where we got an eight-course luncheon for 65¢. We had to show the cash before they would give us lunch--you know, we didn't look like regular patrons. We were kids, a couple of kids in short pants. And we went and sat in the sixth row center of the orchestra. That to me was such a thrill that I still remember walking into those seats and the pride we had sitting there.

Did you discuss with Dietz anything about the show afterwards?

Oh, we were both stage-struck, terribly.

Would you hang around backstage at all to try to see the stars?

The first hanging around we ever did was not for a girl-- it was for a man. There was a pitcher on the Giants named Rube Marquand. The Giants had bought him from some other club for $11,000--these are the idiot things you remember as a kid--and that was a lot of money to pay for a ballplayer in those days. He was a great big tall left-hander, and he was awful when he started, and he became known as the $11,000 lemon.

But then in one year suddenly Rube Marquand blossomed, and he won 19 straight games, which is a record that has never been equalled since. It still stands. You talk to any baseball