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Do you know what's happened to her?

I talked to her the day before yesterday. She lives in Louisville, Kentucky.

Was she at Columbia?

Barnard. She was a kid then. When I met her she was 16 and I was 18. She had a little white canoe, and I remember we'd paddle it on Deal Lake, New Jersey. There was a night club there, called Ross-Fenton Farm, which was beyond our means, but with all the other kids we'd settle back in our canoes and listen to the music. There was a young couple dancing there at the time, and we met them down at the dock one day and liked them. They used to sneak Marie and me in once in a while. And the reason I remember them very well was because the boy married the girl, and the boy was named George Murphy, who is now the Senator from California.

You know, I think it's often amazing how many people in one person's life developed into something.

Now at Columbia began meetings. This great class of '17 was just graduating. Schuster was still wearing short pants when he went to college. Dick Simon was in the college. I was in journalism '20; he was in college '20.