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industry came to that luncheon, and I, as chairman, was in charge. It was another piece of hamming that I enjoyed very much!

Could you show or give an example of how the decision was made at one time for an award?

Oh, we used to. have terrible fights. Often the final choice was decided by who could yell the loudest. I was chairman, you see. I'd get the last yell in. If it was an award that I particularly wanted, I wouldn't stop yelling until they gave it to me.

How many people were on the committee?

About a dozen. But, as is always true with these things, a few people carried the most weight. Ted Weeks had a great deal of influence. John Crosby, while he was on, Paul Porter who joined us after he left the FCC.... John Daly came aboard at my suggestion, a couple of years ago. The four of us used to decide ahead of time what we wanted particularly.

Would you watch particular shows?

No. All around the country there were monitors from whom we would get advice. None of us could see the shows