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this to you. This is the side of him that he keeps to himself. Obviously he would be pestered to death by every panhandler and chiseler in sight if this was ever known. That's not the reason. He doesn't want people to know the real Sinatra. He has helped a score of old actors and run-down night club stars. You just don't know how many of them he's supporting. I'll give you an example: Joe E. Lewis, who is now very sick. Frank is paying all of his bills. There's another fellow whose name I won't tell you who was very famous in his day. Frank is supporting him--lock, stock, and barrel. If this fellow would ever tell the public this, Frank would cut him right off and he knows it. Now that's just money, you could say. Well, it does come in so fast that he can't keep track of it. But how much of it can he keep? His taxes and expenses are enormous. He's the most extravagant man that I ever met. To Frank Sinatra, money is to be enjoyed. I think that that's the great philosophy. That was Moss Hart's philosophy, too. The people I've loved have felt that way. You admire something that Frank has and you have to be careful. The next day you get it from him. He had a gold pen once that he was signing something with and I said carelessly, “Gee, that's a cute pen.” The next day one was delivered with my initials on it. I didn't want it at all.

Well, you were embarrassed.

Yes, I was. On the other hand, Frank simply cannot take