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You were editor of the Jester for three years.

No, I was not, just for two years. You see, I got out at the end of my junior year.

We haven't brought this out yet. You might want to go into that.

Well, in my sophomore year, while I was editing the Jester, the war was on and we got into it.

You did go into how you got credits.

Yes, I got credits when I went off to the officers' training school. But luckily for me the war ended just as I was being made a second lieutenant. In those days, the lieutenant was the man who led the troops over the top of the trenches. Second lieutenants were selling for about two for a dime. But I got back to college then, and I had credit for all the courses by this time that I couldn't do. So it was kind of a joy ride for me to finish in three years--by going to summer session after my junior year. All I needed were a few more points. So I never had to go back for my senior year.

Now, I think I told you that before going back to Columbia I had worked for one year in Packard Commercial School and had gotten some outside jobs, so that I had a pretty good sense of business and double-entry bookkeeping by the time I