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I would think of an education as not only getting a background of literature and history and learning some foreign languages--not Latin and Greek for me--but French, Spanish, Italian; today, I guess, maybe Russian. But what I also learned at the School of Journalism was not only how to write a quick story, how to put it down in as few words as possible, but something else that I think is invaluable. I learned not to clutter up my mind with a lot of useless information, because the intelligent man doesn't have to have all this stuff in his head. The intelligent man has only to know where to find it when he needs it. I learned where to look for the things that I needed and just how to go about getting them. Now, this didn't seem to be right at the time the $64,000 question was the rage on TV, when it turned out that people who had seemingly useless information tucked in the backs of their heads were cleaning up. But then we found out the darn show was crooked!

Do you think you were able to gain any confidence in yourself?

Of course. That's another thing. You're growing up. These are the years when you're becoming a young man, and a couple of good professors like Raymond Weaver and at that time Benny Kendrick in the history department--these people were an inspiration to me. I learned a lot just by knowing them.

Did you go up to his rooms even after you had finished his course?