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walking into the building. It was 61 West 48th Street, the
exact spot where today the Twelve Caesars Restaurant is. It's
part of Radio City. It was then all brownstones, and all that
property was owned by Columbia University, and here was this
very nice private house. In the bottom were little windows
with Liveright books in them. And I walked in and met Horace
Liveright and saw this publishing office. Baby had gotten where
he wanted to be.
What was the baseball game like?
We went to the baseball game, Dreiser and I. He was a
dour, sulky bastard. He got bored about the fifth or sixth
inning and said, “Come on, let's get out of here,” so I had
to leave. I remember it was a close game. I was outraged,
but I had to leave with him.
The next day Liveright said, “I've got to check up on
you while you're making sure.” I hadn't given him a final
answer yet. I was going to think about this $25,000, which
I had to get a hold of. It was money that was invested, and
I wanted to talk it over with my uncle.
This was what I wondered--who you talked it over with.
My uncle, and just to please him, my father. They were
fascinated by publishing, too. They said, “$25,000--you'll
probably end up losing it, but it will be good experience for
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