Session: 123456789101112131415161718192021         Page 337338339340341342343344345346347348349350351352353354355356357 [missing]358359360361362363364365366367368369370371372373374375376377378379380381382383384385386387388389390391392393394 of 1029

What hurt Bill Saroyan was that he was an inveterate gambler. He lost it faster than he made it. You talk to Carol about him, you know, and she'll scream and rage at him, but she's still very fond of him. He's impossible to be married to. She's now extremely happy with Walter Matthau, who is also an inveterate gambler. Carol has got a penchant for gamblers. Walter, who now makes a huge salary--you know, he's a big movie star--is usually broke. He swears off gambling until the next time.

Would you go into at all on your publication of the Roosevelt papers? I'd love to hear about that.

The lead came from his adviser, Sam Rosenman, now Judge Sam Rosenman.

Had you known him?

I had known him. He was a good friend of my lawyer, Horace Manges. Sam Rosenman mentioned the fact that Roosevelt was going to do his public papers and speechs and that he was going to be the editor.

Rosenman was going to be editor?

Yes. Rosenman was going to be the editor of this thing. There was great competition for this. Everybody