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us a lot of prints. We did a book of the 1840's naval war in California, done by Grabhorn, the printer who had done Leaves of Grass for us.

Do you remember what you discussed at lunch at all?

What the books were going to look like, how many volumes. Well, we decided it would be in five volumes.

I left Sam Rosenman up there and drove home alone. I had gotten some autographs from him and I was on the top of the world--so happy that I got arrested for speeding on the way home. I said to the cop, “You can't arrest me. I've just left President Roosevelt.” And the cop said, “Well, that's a new one.” I showed him the autographs and stuff and settled for promising him a set when it came out. He got it, too!

Our set came out at the very nadir of Roosevelt's career. He had just gotten murdered on the Supreme Court issue. You know, he had tried to pack the Supreme Court, and he didn't get away with it. The set was $15...five volumes at $3 apiece. You couldn't do that today. The '37 dollar is worth about 48$ today I think. We discovered that anybody who had $15 to spend on books at one time hated Franklin Roosevelt. We ran into immediate resistance. Furthermore, it was kind of a dull collection--those public papers and addresses. There wasn't anything very exciting about them. And Rosenman had been very profligate in his editing. He