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When I left I was in a position where my hands were tied, it was an
impossible thing. I couldn't sleep, there was nothing that I could do.
Staying would not help any. So we're left with history.
Okay. I think we'll probably discuss the question of your retirement
Let me throw in the 1199 News. We'll start fresh on --
Also if there's anything else that you want to say about the period
leading up to Bread and Roses. So why don't we start with 1199 News.
I don't think I have anything to say on that period. I may have
at a future time. I was thinking of one thing I wanted to say about
1199 News is that -- and I think we were successful in this -- that we
did many things through 1199 News. We took a magazine that was a
fairly traditional magazine when I first came there, but developed a
number of things that were novel in labor. We were applying some of
the ideas that were prevalent in commercial journalism, to try to reach
the audience we had. Because we knew that very few people read the
publication. When we were dealing with the hospital workers it was
another challenge -- they had very limited ability to read. Therefore
we had to constantly think in terms of short stories, very simple
words, and pictures. There was the question of trying to figure out how
to use -- -the magazine was always a very important thing. First of all
for the leadership. It's the thing that gets in to the homes of every
single member once a month. It's the best piece of propaganda that
you can give out, and hope that it would be read -- and to decide if it
could be, to make it so that it would be read.
So we did a number of things through the magazine, to try to develop
it. We were, I think, much more successful than most unions. Because
here too we were able to call upon talent, very gifted people. People
like Stanley Glaubach, who was -- [telephone rings. Tape stops and
starts.] People like Stanley Glaubach was to my mind a genius, who
worked himself to death and who was tremendously devoted to this
publication and to our union and to me. We were very very very close.
He was interested in sports -- we used to go to football games and
baseball games. But anyway. So that we would think through ideas of
what to do. I don't have copies -- you've seen 1199. It's a newspaper
now. But when the magazine started -- for example the magazine
went through different stages. We're back to this size but we were this
size all the time. We then increased it to 9 by 12 size because we
wanted it to be easier to read. Now we weren't always ready to do it
with pictures, that kind of thing. Then we jumped up further to Life
magazine size. Stanley one day said -- he sent over to me a magazine.
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