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I can't write it. I can't write an article now while that strike is on. It would harm the workers.” I remember putting on a plea on the telephone. I said, “I know who you spoke to. You spoke to Bill Nuchow and to Sam Meyers. They have a vested interest, because they're supporting Doris. They don't want it to be known what kind of strike they're supporting here, and how this is betraying the interests of the workers.” He had all the information. He had been at the headquarters and they had let him in and he was talking to people. He told me that two or three vice-presidents had said to him anonymously, “This strike is a disaster. Nobody knows what is happening here. I never saw anything like this.” So he said to me, “Look, I know what's happening.” I said, “Look, you destroy your credibility as a journalist if you say ‘I'm going to wait.’” Not that he turned the world around, but he did the article. He did the article.

But in doing the article, he raised the question of the Koch endorsement. I remember the issue coming up this way. He had a meeting with Doris.

I remember this, because you were already at local 342 too.

Yes. Doris said, “It's a lie. I never voted against it. That's a total lie. The vote was against an endorsement, I did not participate.” Wayne came to me and said, “What do you have on it?” Either it was him or when Conason was doing the piece on it.

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Vivian Gioia told me that she kept notes of all the delegate assembly meetings, to know what to do after a meeting. I said, “Can you find the notes?” She came back and says, “Here are the notes.” It described who voted for, who voted against, and how Doris broke the tie. I sent that.

Doris created the tie.

Doris created the tie. I sent that down.

Anyway, the strike -- I knew you were around at the time. You knew how I was working behind the scenes on that strike.

Let's stop here?

Yes.

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