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Yes. -- finally spoke to me and I told her what was happening, and what it was, and I thought it was inaccurate. As proof of my, you know, you want to check me, I said, “You can talk to Abe Raskin.” You know, I gave names, dropped names. I had talked to Raskin about it, he was familiar with it. But he said, “Look, there's nothing I can do. This is disastrous.” Within an hour I got a call from Sullivan, because he must have said, “Call Moe Foner.” He was furious. “Going over my head. Who do you think you are?” I have no power, you know, who am I from the outside? I couldn't get him to calm down. And he wrote the story like there were no give-backs, and he had the documents, but didn't even bother reading the thing!
So we didn't know how to get it out into the press. The [New York] Post wasn't interested, the [Daily] News, I could never reach anybody there. So we decided that I would call Channel 2, and I finally convinced Channel 2. The agreement was that they would meet -- I was at 342 -- that they could meet with Bob downstairs, Bob would go over it with them. The next night, a CBS-TV exclusive. The camera rolled on the document, showed Turner saying, “And we didn't give back a thing.” Then the Post ran a story, “Forty million dollars in give- backs.” Slowly it began to leak out that maybe this wasn't -- but it really had not, the members were not really too concerned. The strike was over, they're going to get five and five.
Then the management wanted the give-backs, and she wouldn't agree to them! They had the list -- Column A, Column B, the amount, etcetera -- and she refused to sign it.
They were primarily give-backs of the benefit coverage?
They were not give-backs that would take anything out of the pocket of members. It would reduce contributions to the benefit fund, the contribution to the training fund, reduce this, reduce that. In other word, a member on the job would not feel it, or the minimums were cut. The minimum is frozen, that saves so much. She's so stubborn and stupid that she just wouldn't move on it, and thinking that she could outlast them, that they were going to come running to her. So this continued until, and has continued to this present day, on the five percent.
The first five percent was supposed to be paid at what time?
Retroactive to the date of the end of the strike, August 26. That five percent has not yet been paid. The second five percent, effective July 1, 1985, was paid only because the managements had the money and unilaterally said, “We're paying.” They wrote a letter to Doris and
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