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when Sammy became very friendly with us, Sammy Levenson, and
started to tell stories, I remember I used to keep a paper with his
punch lines, and I once had over 400 punch lines to stories.
This is much later you're talking about?
This is not too much -- this is later, but it's not -- yes, it's
later. But I was always interested in that kind of thing because later
on, I'll tell you, when I went in the mountains, I suddenly found myself
replacing the social director one summer and then was doing that a
number of times with the band. I'm jumping.
What was your first job, the very first one you can remember?
The first job was at Gimbel's.
How old were you?
It would have to be that I was maybe -- let's see, I was in my
junior year at high school. I may have been around fifteen or
fourteen. I remember I went Benny Glick, who lived in the same
building, and we went to the Gimbel's employment office. We never
really thought we'd get a job. I don't think we half wanted a job, you
know, but we had to show our parents that we were looking for work
to help. They said yes, 4:00 to 8:00, all day Saturday, ten dollars a
week. We were shocked. And we had to go, and this was a new thing
for me to take the Broadway-Brooklyn line, the BMT, that went into
Williamsburg over the bridge, over the Williamsburg Bridge, it still
exists now, and to take that in to 34th Street and to come back. But
the parameters were very tight. You just went and came back. You
didn't wander off.
You didn't wonder off because you --
Because we worked from four to eight, also my mother would
hold food for me. See, also, on food and school, that's probably why I
eat the way I do. I eat very, very fast and I never stop to really enjoy
the food. When I went to elementary school, I lived across the street.
I used to run home for lunch. When I went to high school, I lived
about six, seven, eight blocks, so we had like a twenty-five minute
lunch hour. Benny Glick and I had a time, we would walk fast, get
home, get a hard-boiled egg and something on the table, eat it and
come right back. So I did that all the time. In college, I sort of took
along food, and then after the second year in college, I was working at
City College from the afternoons on, from 2:00 o'clock on, so I was
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