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And how did the students feel about it when the question was put to them?

They felt good. They felt good.

They probably learned more from that exchange than they did from the actual photography.

Well, it was an interesting thing, because it demonstrated again that we stand for something and there are certain things that we won't do no matter what the -- this has come up very often, that I am offered all kinds of things to do with promises from corporations if I'll do this. For example, we made a decision we would never accept any money from tobacco or alcohol companies. We could have gotten big grants, but you can't go to the schools and the students with a promotion “This is made possible by Miller Beer,” or this cigarette company, Phillip Morris. So these are problems we face, but we handle them straight on.

So the message is, Bread and Roses does not accept censorship from donors and is selective about who the donors are.

Yes. The censorship thing came up also because one time Dinnerstein, not Harvey, his brother Simon, had an exhibit with lots of nudes, and the question came up inside the union, “You know, we can't have members going into the gallery.” We did it.

Now, the student exhibits, there were two or three traveling exhibits which were the work of students around subjects related to work.

We had exhibitions titled “Working,” “Sweatshops,” and there's another one I can't remember.

And where were some of the places? These were original works of art by students that were exhibited in Gallery 1199, but subsequently - -

But also --

Where are some other places?

Well, Bank Street College of Education, many large organizations, schools, the Board of Education at Livingston Street, many organizations like that exhibit them, display them, put them up, and help promote them.

And in some public buildings, the State Capitol or --