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New England.

New England. So I remember meeting Andy Stern then.

Now the president of SEIU.

Now the president of the SEIU. I also met at the time of the memorial for Davis -- no, at our street fair. We had a Labor Day Street Fair, and John Sweeney was then the head of SEIU, and he came by, and I have a photograph with him in which he was so excited about the street fair and talking about, “Gee, we ought to do this on a national level, and maybe we can get the labor movement to endorse it.” So I met John Sweeney then, and I continued to have relations with him during the merger, because they raised the question that they wanted to know if Bread and Roses would be part of the merger. When I said yes, they said, “Great.”

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