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my being around, and she could have gone much further if someone
had shared with her.
How did you negotiate this as a couple? Was she equally committed
to your work? Was that the key to this division of labor?
When I left the Army, when we were young, she was
committed to doing things that were in the interest of people. She
didn't expect that I would be in a situation where I'd never be home.
The times in 65 were particularly difficult because I wouldn't come
home on Saturday night until three or four in the morning. I would
leave every day early. And Sunday I had to sleep, to recover, to go
back the next week. That was a tough life.
What has been the upshot of that in your relationship with your
daughters? Give a thumbnail sketch of their names and careers and
how has that fallen out in terms of --
Well, I have two daughters, Peggy, the younger, who
developed a great skill as an administrator, finances, and something
that I never dreamed that she would have, and had very important
positions, is now the position she has ended. She is looking for
something. She lives in this apartment house and she's very, very
effective and good in her work, and she has a great sense of humor.
Nancy is another brilliant person. Nancy is an anthropologist. She
teaches at State University at Purchase. She's written several books,
and she and Anne are very close. On everything she writes, she shows
to Anne. Anne has to review it. She's now well known in her field.
She's just published From Ellis Island to JFK. It's on immigrants and
immigration. She's a sort of maven in immigration and is being invited
to places she can't even have the time to go to, to talk about her book
and about her knowledge of immigration.
Our granddaughter, Alexis [Swerdloff], is a freshman at Yale.
That's Nancy's daughter.
Nancy's daughter, who has an extremely -- she's a very, very
good writer and writes very easily. That's in part due to her father,
who is a very, very good writer and is in advertising to a degree, but
he works hard at the printed word, and he has time when he has to
work with Alexis. But Alexis now is off on her own. She's on the Yale
Herald. She seems to be headed to be one of the editors, and she
writes. She's funny. Her writing is very -- and it comes very easy for
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