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I remember we had a demonstration. We had a rally downtown
in response to the hardhat thing. Remember, when the hardhats went
wild, that organized thing?
I remember Victor Goldbaum was there and Victor spoke,
Ossie, and I remember Fritz Weaver, the actor. I got him. I don't know
how I got him. It turned out that later on that he was--because his
brother, Robert Weaver, is a painter, an artist, whose work is in
“Images of Labor.” I didn't realize it. Of course, Fritz Weaver's a very
decent guy. But I'm going far afield.
No, no. I want to discuss this further, because, obviously--well, I
wouldn't say obviously--it's not clear exactly what the lasting impact of
that kind of antiwar activity was within the foreign policy outlook of the
Later on, much later on, there was a national conference
organized in St. Louis, Labor for Peace, that involved Harold Gibbons
and a number of teamsters. Gibbons got the head of the Midwest
Bobby Holmes came.
Who was a fink and a thug.
I know. I know, I know, but they came to it. I remember
spending the night before in St. Louis at the teamster's, going around.
Jake McCarthy was at that time the editor of the St. Louis Teamster,
and he was my contact on the Labor Leadership Assembly for Peace in
the Midwest. He was a very good reporter. He later ended up as a
columnist on the St. Louis Post Dispatch. But he was a very decent
guy and he took me around the St. Louis Teamster. They had a lot of
showplace stuff there. Gibbons was interested in this thing and
Gibbons ran into trouble later. Gibbons went to Vietnam with David
Livingston and Abe Feinglad of the fur workers. But the Labor for
Peace thing was much broader. Jerry Wurf came and spoke there. But
it was toward the end already. By that time, everybody was moving,
and it was then fashionable.
Why do you think the labor movement was so conservative for so
long on the question of the war?
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