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Well, not very long ago, I called him up. This is within the last month, the month of December of 1975. I called him up because my office had been speaking with his officestaff people about getting him to sponsor some legislation which I had introduced which would be of assistance to youngsters who get into trouble and to keep them in their own homes instead of sending them to institutions, providing the monies that would make that possible for supportive services. And my office had not been able to get a response either way from the staff people from Kennedy. There's a certain arrogance on the part of those people. I was furious that they didn't call back in time. I think I've reached a point in life where I expect that if I make a call that people will respond. I answer every call from people I know by name and many I don't know. I personally- will answer most calls and certainly my staff will answer all others. There's no call that goes unanswered. I really resented that rather cavalier treatment, so I told my staff member -- her name is Ann Silverman -- “Call his office and say that Congressman Koch called and I want to speak to the Senator and nobody but the Senator.” So a couple of hours later the Senator called and said, “Hi, Dick.” (laughs) I say, “Hello, Senator, how are you?” I tell him about the bill. He says, “Well, I'll have to look into it and talk to Mondale.” I'd given Mondale the bill earlier and he'd rejected it because he has his own proposal. It's not as good as mine, but that's what happens. He's onto his and doesn't want to