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business of government to get into licensing prostitution or harassing prostitution, subject to these limitations that I've just described. And when I make this point in front of audiences, as I have on occasion, they say, “Well, how will they find one another?” and I say, “Love will find a way.”

Now, of course, in England what happens is that they use the media. They put up cards. They use newspapers. They're very blatant. Everybody knows what they are. And that's okay. People reading it know what they're reading. I'm not for censorship.

All right, now getting back to the gays: So in '65, when we're running again -- Carol and myself -- one of the issues was: what's the bell going on on 6th Avenue? You can't walk down the street without being accosted. And so we undertook to get the cops to stop it. And this was considered to be a vile, anti-homosexual drive and we were denounced by the Mattachini Society. In fact, I think Carol and I are in a book that they put out. (laughs) Very denunciatory. And I remember getting letters from some of the leaders of that group. I felt very bad about that, because it's easy to pick on them, even though in the Greenwich Village area you would certainly lose votes -- there are other areas on the upper east side where you might not. But I would consider that to be heinous to use them as a whipping boy. Facetiously, some of them might like to be whipping boys. (laughs) That's facetious.