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They have a number which was “bedwetter.” They had numbers ... I can't even remember them all, but they were pejorative numbers, as well as good numbers, so to speak.

Now, the Pentagon's position was: we need these numbers in case these people want to re-enlist, so we have it on their discharge. That's bull shit. You can keep it in the file. If you want to keep it in the file. I'm not getting into that fight now. There should be a fight made as to who is able to get into the Army and who is not. But that's another fight to be made. But to say that you have to have it on a discharge paper when that discharged soldier goes to an employer and we have established the fact that employers have this book, so allegedly secret numbers weren't secret at all. And you go to an employer and be reads “a bedwetter.” I mean why should a discharged soldier not be able to compete with someone who never went into the Army? He may even be a bigger bedwetter. Or if it said latent homosexual or active homosexual in this sexual area. What's that got to do with employment? And as a result of my efforts, the Army rescinded its program, ended the spin numbers, and established a procedure where if you had an existing discharge with a spin number on it, you could return it and they'd give you a new discharge paper without the spin number. I was very proud of that. It got a lot of attention.