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they look at my record they find they like in general what I'm doing. The only thing I want to avoid is getting all these people who dislike me on a single issue in the same room where they can join forces.

Now, getting back to the basic question of why I've increased my majorities: people are very responsive, and others simply did not recognize that, of honesty -- intellectual honesty -- and a lack of fear of getting involved in controversial issues. Just before we started this taping I attended a luncheon at the telephone company. There were maybe 50 or 60 high executives there. William Ellinghaus, who's the president of the telephone company, had invited me to speak at the luncheon. I expect they do this quite regularly with other officeholders. It was very informal, and I was as honest as I knew how. I went over positions which shocked them because they were so conservative from their point of view, but they were my positions. I've supported the death penalty for some crimes. I don't know whether we've talked about the death penalty or not, but I'd like to.

You've mentioned that you would talk about it.

I did not accept the liberal distinction made between fascism and communism and Third World standards, and it distresses me that we impose one level of morality that we expect the fascists to reach and if they don't, we attack them -- but if the communists