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So I've been handing that out at the subways, and I think it's a brilliant idea myself, and I think it's a good idea. A reporter came to see me last week at the subway, one of the local sheets, a young fellow, seemed to be impressed with it. And then that afternoon he calls me up -- it's Friday afternoon. He calls me up and he says, “Well, I've been talking to other people, and would you like to know what they say?” I said, “Sure.” He said, “Well, I have been talking to a Miss Alice Harrington.” (laughs) That's a good reporter. I said, “Oh, you know how to hurt a guy. You've got to my one enemy.” (laughs) So he said, Let me tell you what she says.” I said, “Sure.” He said, “She says they don't need a commission. It's all cut and dried. We know the inhumane things that exist. We know what has to be outlawed now. In fact, Koch is the kind of guy that if he were in Abraham Lincoln's shoes at the time of the Civil War, instead of abolishing slavery, be would have formed a commission to look into it.” (laughs) Which I thought was very clever on her part. I said, “Very clever on her part. And she is Ms. Savanarola. She's got all the answers. She's a zealot. And I meet them all the time. And the zealots brook no dissent. And there's a role for zealots. The role is they have to push as hard as they can and they bring other people closer to the ideal, which is somewhere less than theirs and may be more than what people want. But I have a different role, and my role is that of a responsible legislator.”