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killed if that pot had fallen on my head. That's the only actual incident of violence.

There's nothing I can remember that was particularly noteworthy about the ‘64 election other than -- I think I told you about when I wouldn't shake hands. We've been through that one already. And also I decided I would go down to -- oh, yes.

That was the year of registration in the South, in 1964, and also the killing of those three kids -- Schwerner, Chaney and Goodman -- and the FBI was looking for them in Mississippi. And they had a voter registration drive in the South, and something called the Lawyers’ Constituional Committee had been formed nationally, and they were looking for lawyers to go and help people.

So I decided I would take eight days off, my vacation, so to speak. It was in August is my recollection. And I would go down there. And I called up -- it was the ACLU that was running it -- the guy, whose name escapes me at the moment, and I said, “I'd like to go,” and he said, “Fine.” And Henry Stern, who's a good friend of mine, now a city councilman, said he'd like to go, too. And I get the call back that they're going to send me to Tennessee. So I mentioned it to Dan Wolf, and Dan said, “You can't go to Tennessee. You've got to go to a place like Mississippi. You go to Tennessee -- nobody's going to think it means anything.” So I call up the guy who's running it and say,