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racist for trying to end this racist program. I was beginning to get a little worried. It was my second term at the time, and you worry about it. I'm a liberal and here the liberals are attacking me, and God knows that in my district that ain't good. And so I began to ask people, “Am I wrong?” “No,” they said, “you are right.”

We then have the full committee vote on this and the full committee reverses it, so that whereas my vote in the sub-committee had been ten to two, on the full committee it's like 19 to six. We lost some of the people, and they strike out my amendment and put back what I consider to be a discriminatory program. So I say, “I'm going to fight this on the floor and try to get it amended on the floor,” and I ask people and they say, “Yes, I think you should.”

And then Sid Yates, who's a very good friend of mine -- he comes from Chicago -- says when we were at a party together at Governor Harriman's house in Georgetown and there was Joe Rauh and he said, “Let's go over and ask Joe Rauh.” So we go over and Yates says, “Joe, Ed here has a real problem as to whether or not he should take to the floor this battle,” and we describe it. And Rauh, who had been aware of the situation clearly, responded very agitated: “If you do that, we will fight you in the streets. We will fight you wherever you are. Yes, I believe that they should have these programs.” So I said, “Do you believe in reverse discrimination?” That's the language I used. He said, “Don't put