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The results of the studies made in the Veterans Administration where are they made available?

Well, in the first place, if they have something of great importance, as they did have in connection with the usefulness of streptomycin and as they did have with certain of the drugs in hypertension and in some of the tranquilizing drugs, they have conferences and they release it to the press, and they certainly will release it to the press if they find anything useful about Premarin, and I will certainly help them to get it done. Otherwise, there is a report which is published by the Veterans Administration which summarizes their work annually, and also, of course, the doctors are at liberty to report their findings in all scientific journals of the United States, and they do.

How do the NIH officials look upon this?

Well, the NIH officials are barely aware of it because the amount of money is small compared with what they have and basically the NIH officials, such as Dr. James Shannon, are not interested in clinical medicine or clinical trials, and they're just interested in science, and so-called basic research, and there's no real drive to get clinical payoffs financed or pushed on the part of the officials of the National Institutes of Health really. There's really a dragging of the feet and the people who receive grants and do it, that's all very well, that's their business, but there's no urging on of people to do clinical trials and to find out what