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enough funds, he could solve the problem with his own men and organization. Farber feels hat he can make a substantial contribution and has made very important contributions to the cancer problem, but he has fought to get funds for the National Cancer Institute and other institutes so that the whole nation should have an opportunity to take part in the effort, and all the competent men and all the major medical schools and research centers have benefitted from his point of view and his efforts.

He viewed it then as a much larger problem than Dr. Rhoads did.

Yes, and he was willing to fight to help everybody to get money to help to solve the problem. He really doesn't think of it as something he can solve himself if he had enough money. He knows he can make progress if he has more funds, but he's not only not jealous of other people's efforts but he's anxious to help them do more. He's one of the most generous men of medicine I've ever known, generous-minded.

To go back to Dr. Rhoads, Albert and I aided him to get money for a steroid hormone program in 1943. He was convinced that if you could assay the hormonal output of cancer patients and well patients that you might be able to identify what hormones were lacking or which hormones were being produced in excess, and in this way you might be able to control certainly some types of cancer. This is an idea that I've long been interested in and one that has been very much overlooked by other people, except for Dr. Jessie Marmaston, who has had a very lonely fight to try to