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of him because he's usually extremely tactful and felicitous in the phrasing of anything he says and usually the taste of what he says is excellent. I think this particular statement was pushed on him by some of the people who were working with him and who really didn't realize what a bad effect this would have, and he himself didn't realize it, probably out of fatigue. I think it hurt him. Do you recall this?

Yes, I do.

Don't you think so?

I'm sure it did hurt him.

And I remember being absolutely horrified by it, feeling it was so bad in its judgment.

Better not said, certainly at that point and in that fashion.

Yes.

Mrs. Lasker, duringthe conduct of the campaign did you have any chance to advise him in the realm of public relations?

I tried to especially advise him about what he should do about his television appearances, but he was totally allergic to that. He understood perfectly how to behave in a hall with