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It's exactly what he said.

Well, Mrs. Lasker, isn't that an illustration of your effectiveness, which we were talking about before this interview began, that you were at a disadvantage being a woman, but in this instance perhaps it served you in good stead.

Yes, but this wasn't a major thing one way or another.

It lead to his appointment.

Yes, but he might have finally gotten to come around in this matter without me, because it did bore him to be out of public service and so maybe in a few days he would have come around to it himself.

I'm only interested in the things that I've been able to do that were not attempted by others and that certainly would not otherwise have been accomplished. But it was a matter of great anxiety on the part of Bill Blair, and I realized when I talked with Stevenson how bitterly resentful he was at not being named Secretary of State.

Well, after Christmas that year I went to see him in Libertyville-I had-disoussed with Paul Hoffman, who knew a great deal about the U.N. and who was then and is the head of the Special Fund of the U.N., and with Anna some suggestions as to who might be useful to Stevenson on his staff at the U.N.--and I discussed these with Stevenson. He was very indecisive about