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10 million dollars. We have over 120 million dollars for cancer research in the National Cancer Institute now. So that even though it sounds like a lot, one-half of one percent of the defense budget for one disease, it is only 10 million dollars, which is still a trifle, still about what the American Cancer Society is spending. This is really nothing for a country. Don't you agree?

Yes. What prompted the General to...

A statement of intellectuals including Francois du Mauriac. About 15 intellectual appealed to de Gaulle to make an allocation of one-half of one percent of the defense budget to cancer research, and, believe it or not, he did it. And recently people from the Cancer Institute here have been to France to discuss the formation of a cancer research effort in France.

Do you see this as an encouraging beginning in Western Europe?

I hope it is. I think it's astonishing, because I've never known a pronouncement by intellectuals getting such a quick response from any head of state before.

The ground must have been prepared.

It may be that de Gaulle has some special interest in cancer research. I just don't know. This happened in the last