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something that didn't reach him. And we were faced with it and also the disinterest and hostility of the Johnsons in this one matter because in other matters they've been extremely friendly about everything, as you know.

At any rate, we've got a note for the $500,000 as part of the matching grant.

Mrs. Lasker, are you able to publicize the gifts made by people to this center?

We've been publicizing the gifts of foreign countries.

Can you publicize the fact that the Kennedy family has made a substantial contribution?

Yes, it was announced and did appear in the papers. It didn't get a big play, I must say--I wouldn't know why.

That should be of help.

It should have been of help, but it wasn't publicized in a very dramatic way, I fear. I don't know whether that was