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legislation to President Roosevelt, because Roosevelt had always
stayed clear of health insurance. Anna and Judge Rosenman had
discussed the importance of health insurance at my urgent request
with Roosevelt many times, and Roosevelt had promised, about a
month before, to send a special health message to Congress, which
we hoped would include a demand for health insurance. His
promise was a great triumph, as no President had ever been willing
to discuss a health program or national health insurance in
any public statement. It had never been thought of before it
was suggested to Roosevelt, I guess, and Roosevelt had never been
willing to do anything about it until he suddenly agreed with
them about a month before the inauguration.
Had you ever talked about this subject with Mrs. Roosevelt?
It seems like a natural subject for her interests?
She was not interested in things that needed legislation,
usually. At least in my contact with Anna Rosenberg, I felt
that we had to get him to be persuaded directly and that she
wouldn't be likely to be effective in this particular area, because
this demanded a big effort, a big legislative effort.
At any rate, I didn't take it up with Mrs. Roosevelt in any
pressing way, I'm sure.
Shortly after the inauguration, President Roosevelt went
to Yalta, and as everyone knows he got sick and was never really
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