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in promoting the idea here?

Whether there was a lot of research in cancer going on in Europe?

Yes.

Actually, there wasn't. We made a survey in ‘47--not of what was going on in Europe, but we know now that very little was going on, because surveys have been made--of what was going on in the United States, and in the summer of ‘45 that outside of the money that had just been raised by the American Cancer Society, about a million dollars earmarked for the first time for research, there was about a million one hundred thousand dollars from all sources, much of it in very small amounts, available for cancer research in the United States, for the second cause of death of our citizens.

When you say “we” made the effort, was this your research...

No, Dr. C.P. Rhoads of Memorial sent out questionnaires and made the survey. So this is how we knew where we were starting from.

For instance, everyone assumed that the Rockefeller Foundation, which seemed to people to be very rich at that time, although it's much richer now--when we went to ask them what they