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to do with it; she just says, “In my study the effect I get is that without changing the cholesterol at this dosage, and so there must be another element affecting the picture.”

Well, that's the Heart Institute.

Well, I see no reason why you should have been discouraged with this small beginning at the end of that Congressional session.

Well, I was because, you see, now 14 years have passed and we still haven't got final answers in, although we're certainly ahead of where we were. But it's not good enough.