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That was the NIH and Richardson, Elliot Richardson, the Secretary of HEW.

I made numerous trips to Washington, between trips to California and Tes, to speak to members of the Senate, and I found that both Senator Cranston of California and Senator Nelson of Wisconsin were violently opposed to S-34, and that they had been influenced in the case of Cranston by Dr. Phil Lee who was the chancellor of the University of California at Berkeley, and by a man called Bill ohn, professor of enzymology at University of Wisconsin. They were both violently opposed to the idea that anything could be done outside of the usual bureaucratic structure.

Were they on the committee in the Senate?

Yes, both Nelson and Sranston were on the committee. So we had proposals from Nixon proposing to do things more or less as usual but with a little more money, and we had two Democrts that we naturally would count on against the bill. The bill provided for an independent agency, still on the campus of NIH but reporting to the President and getting its funds directly from the President, and getting it through the Bureau of the Budget and Office of Management and Budget, isn't it?

So I was very alarmed by this and I realized that we were in real trouble.

This bore out Humphrey's prediction.

Yes. So I was in greenhous near Dallas, Arlington, Texas, wit my sister, and my sister had told me that a woman that I knew, Ann