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get a meal, and everything is a big complicated thing -- I'd do it if I had a mission that I needed to go on, but I don't really have a mission. Just as I'd go to China if there was something I could do, but I don't feel -- I'm not a traveler without some mission. Except to very pleasant easy places.

The Riviera.

Yes, the Riviera.

I noticed that Secretary Weinberger was over there and spent a whole week.

In Russia?

In Russia, and he made a joint statement in early September with the Russian Minister of Public Health, as to the extent of their cooperation.

Well, I think that's all just good will and window dressing. I was hoping for some new advances in cancer or some new ways of preventing heart attacks or strokes, or how do you cure arthritis, you know, something substantive of an important nature, And they don't seem to have it.

Well, simultaneously, when you first told me about this exchange of ideas with Russia, you also contemplated a closer exchange of information with the British.

Yes. Now, that fancy did not develop, although the White House