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Anooher thing that hinges on this development.

Yes.

They haven't ever determined what causes arthritis.

No. It's a very disabling and miserable disease.

Well, now, all these appropriations --

I have some arthritis in my hands from time to time. Do you ever have it?

No.

Lucky.

All these appropriations are in the works for the year 1980. But what will be the reaction of the administration to all of this?

The administration never vetoes small changes in the National Institutes of Health alone. If there are very big changes in the bill for HEW, the President might veto it, but I doubt that Carter will want to make that much trouble when he has so many other things on his mind. And this is a bill that has some place around, the total of the HEW bill is around 50 billion dollars. They don't reach down and say, “we're going to veto the bill because you added 50 million dollars to this or that”, you know.

It's not significant.