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But you know it's not easy to talk to Henry, because Henry knows so much about areas that I don't know anything about. I don't pretend to know the inside dope on the Middle East, and Sadat and he do, and it's hard to even ask them really good questions. It was fascinating, but I don't say that I'm the ideal person to draw them out because you have to know something to ask the right questions or know more than I know. I know more how than I did.

They weren't all Henry Kissingerfat that table, though.

But they're the only people you talk to, because you only talk to the people on either side. You can't talk across -- the noise is too great in the room. But I was the only Democrat I could see in the whole place. (chuckles) There was everybody there: Haig and the Vice President and Mrs. Bush and John Schweringer and Mrs. Schweringer and Mrs. Annenberg and Mr. and Mrs. Winston Guest -- a great variety of pleasant people but entirely different from anybody I'd ever seen in the White House before.

Maybe they went back into your record, back in the '40s.

No, I never was a Republican. I think they just felt the need of saying they invite Democrats, too! (laughs)

Well, you were a great devotee of Wendell Willkie, however.