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Yes, they've been tossing this around for a number of years.

Yes. Now someone else -- I think in Israel -- has found a virus for breast cancer. It's assumed currently that probably people will find other viruses, connected with other types of human cancer, and we'll know about that as we go along.

But this has always been suspected but never...

Nobody has ever had anything that they've been able to say, “Yes, I found the same thing.”

Well, how does it happen that it's broken through at this point?

Isn't that extraordinary?

How does it happen?

I don't know. I guess virology just got to a point where they've done enough work so they found it. They're having a meeting in Roswell Park supported by the American Cancer Society.

This is in September?

Yes, the first three days of September. All the leading