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Oh, sure. Partly the federal government is going to make the states. . . give the states the money that they use for things like that. I don't know what will really happen. The states haven't sounded very enthusiastic about it. So we'll see what happens.

You also are somewhat disappointed in the fact that there has been no continuing decline in the number of deaths due to high blood pressure, and you want to do something about that.

It's doing better.

It's doing better currently?

Yes, we've got new people working on it for the Advertising Council, and we're going to do a new campaign; and we hope that will cause more decline.

The great decline was the dramatic one in the early 70's.

That's right. But we hope that this will pick up again. But you have to have money to have people at state clinics -- clinics in places where they employ a lot of people. And then you have to get manufacturers to be willing to put up money to see they have clinics and people to run them.

You really have to keep the whole thing alive.