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For diabetes, or for chest X-rays for TB. The public health has not had very much to do for some time because they really had syphillis and tuberculosis fairly well under control, and widespread campaigns cancer and heart were too complicated until fairly recently. Of course they could have started to the anti hypertensive drugs on a wide scale any time after the middle '50s. By then everybody knew that you could protect people against strokes from hypertension by giving them drugs, or in large measure you could. But it Just wasn't done. Because the average doctor doesn't go out and bring people in to him. People have to have symptoms before they go to doctors, and is unfortunately a symptomless disease in the beginning.

Another question in the area of funds for medical research -- you have been in large measure responsible, I believe, for encouraging the President to think in these terms, and the last couple of years he has thought in these terms of widespread federal appropriations for medical research. What is his current attitude?

Well, his attitude is that he can't put large additional funds in medical research at the moment because of the exigencies of the Vietnamese war and other programs in the