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a thousand, no issue arises. It's only in the one case in a thousand where an issue might arise that we'd have the kind of problem that I described at such length.

These editorials that are stamped, has it turned out that when there have been disagreements they have centered more or less on these? In other words, have you been able to catch the ones that would be controversial? Or does a rather large question come up on something that you thought would be quite ordinary?

Actually, there hasn't been any difficulty whatsoever in this. I would, for example, stamp in the sense that I have indicated to you a piece on the subject of birth control. Now, I would want the publisher to see what we're going to say about birth control, family planning, editorially before it appeared because this is such a highly emotional and controversial issue among a large segment of the New York Times readers quite apart from the population in general. And I would not feel it fair to run an editorial on this subject without his having at least seen it beforehand. Now, the other side of this is that we have taken a position, say, in favor of family planning a number of times in the past, so there is no real policy problem here. And yet he is a new publisher and he certainly ought to be warned that this is coming up. And I did so, with absolutely no reaction whatsoever, and so we ran the piece.

On the smoking issue where we are definitely opposing an important advertising group, an important segment of our advertising income, which is by no means the first time we have done this either in respect to smoking or in respect to many other types of advertisers-I'm proud to say that the Times doesn't allow this pocketbook question to affect in any sense its